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Turning a failed deering around.

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September 23, 2018
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So wife and i argued tonight about her not wanting to submit on her knees to suck my dick. Shes obese and says it hurts her knees. I tried getting her a pillow and ended up deering about why she really didnt want to.

She kept saying we both made a big mistake being together and i left. She keeps texting me about our 3 kids and what custody i want.

Worst part is she said she'd give bj with me standing up and then wanted me to fuck her add(shes on period). But it bugged me so much about her not willing to get on her knees I couldn't get over it.

Tldr; my ego stopped me from enjoying what i couldof had and ruined my night and maybe marriage. How to kill ego before my wife makes me kill the puppy?


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Title Turning a failed deering around.
Author jimmyjohncocks
Upvotes 7
Comments 60
Date 23 September 2018 07:39 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/203987
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/9i6r6a/turning_a_failed_deering_around/
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[–]The_LitzRed Beret22 points23 points  (25 children) | Copy

Go back on your knees and say you are sorry, because right now you are such a lame excuse for a man that I am 100% on her side.

Chicks(especially fat ones) get on their knees to suck Chad's dick, it comes naturally to them. Ask me how I know this.

You asked/begged/commanded her to do that. You negotiated desire. Then got butthurt. Now you are angry at her.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (24 children) | Copy

My butthurt is worsened because I am at that point where my smv is 2x to 3x hers. She should have the desire and it bugs my ego so much due to her not wanting to fully submit. According to what ive read she may be at that stage where she knows the smv difference but its so much that it weighs on her and is a burdone. Like when a chick knows her celebrity will fuck someone else if they mess up at all and it overcomes their desire to put in the effort to keep them.

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

My butthurt is worsened because I am at that point where my smv is 2x to 3x hers. She should have the desire and it bugs my ego so much due to her not wanting to fully submit. According to what ive read she may be at that stage where she knows the smv difference but its so much that it weighs on her and is a burdone. Like when a chick knows her celebrity will fuck someone else if they mess up at all and it overcomes their desire to put in the effort to keep them.

The word should is code for covert contract.

Get ready for the ass pounding, I'm to tired.

Faggot.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The should is like having a =2 after 1 + 1. This math of my relationship just doesnt add up.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

my smv is 2x to 3x hers

You think it, and it may very well be that yours is higher, but the chances are just about zero that she thinks it is.

Right now, even being fat and "unattractive", she could go to any bar and pull a ONS. Or suck a dick in the parking lot, with her knees being chewed up by gravel. Your SMV will remain lower than hers in her mind. That is what years of betadom does to a relationship. this does not change overnight.

Your biggest issue is your ego making a covert contract. Your SMV is climbing therefore she must submit. Your anger tonight was your ego taking the shots.

Women experience dread differently. I found I get better results with a little less dread and more comfort. Not all women will react exactly to the text book example. The books are tools for you to interpret a way to apply dread optimally. Too much too soon and she is going to be like a deer in the headlights, shocked into inaction.

From your description she was down to fuck, but you are the one who had an issue. You are now punishing good behavior.

[–]helaughsinhidden10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

She is a 1, he is a 2 or 3

[–]matrixtospartanatLVRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If your wife’s SMV is 1/3 to 1/2 of yours and she is obese, not much more is going to ‘weigh her down.’

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Anyone who is breathing as an SMV 2-3x higher than a fat ass woman.

That is like saying my bench is 2-3x more than a toddler.

Not even the same ballpark faggot.

[–]runnowxxx1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

i disagree ur “smv is 2x or 3x to hers“. i think she has ur balls. (asking u what custody u want - meaning she can leave u anytime and ask for child maintenance). i think SHE has put YOU on dread lv 10, not the otherway round. and u still have ONEITIS. so she owns u big time.

gd luck unplugging bro.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Well spotted, she is in control of the relationship and the sex. She is threatening him with divorce while he aimlessly drives around in circles waiting to go home.

[–]wkndatbernardus1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Haha, "Big Been, parliament!"

[–]hack3geRed Beret8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

Scary reading shit like this and realizing I was here once.

You are being so confrontational with a wife who clearly is trying to please you. You are angry - you think she should do everything you want because you started lifting and read a few things on the internet.

News flash you are still a faggot.

If she won’t do something you want it’s because you aren’t a man who deserves it - if you were she wouldn’t even hesitate.

You lack leadership and vision on how you are going to get the life you want - shit you probably don’t even know what you want other than some obese landwhale to fuck you better. Hint: there in lies your problem.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is pretty spot on. Minus the i took the pill and became aware my 10 of a wife had an extra 0.
I remember being told by a coworker and her bf 8 years ago that i shouldn't settle for my wife. My bp self was disgusted at their "shallow" idea of my perfect gf.

Believe it or not but i was asking my friend at work how to break up with my gf the very fucking night she picked me up from work acting weird and on the drive home told me in the car she was pregnant. Since then I've repressed and denied any desire of leaving.

Being shallow was and is a big nono on my bp radar. Hardest pill for me to swallow is admitting my wife is ugly. It hits my ego as a man who settled for her and it makes my bp side of not wanting to be shallow come out.

I used to love her unconditinally and she was my oneitis on a pedestal. Remove the pedestal and add conditons= no more blinded by love.

In the end I'm just a guy trying desperatly to scoop water outta his sinking boat. But my boats been at the bottom of the Pacific and my bucket isn't doing much.

[–]RedPill-BlackLotusRed Beret7 points8 points  (15 children) | Copy

So wife and i argued tonight about her not wanting to submit on her knees to suck my dick. Shes obese and says it hurts her knees. I tried getting her a pillow and ended up deering about why she really didnt want to.

She kept saying we both made a big mistake being together and i left. She keeps texting me about our 3 kids and what custody i want.

Worst part is she said she'd give bj with me standing up and then wanted me to fuck her add(shes on period). But it bugged me so much about her not willing to get on her knees I couldn't get over it.

Tldr; my ego stopped me from enjoying what i couldof had and ruined my night and maybe marriage. How to kill ego before my wife makes me kill the puppy?

Fags delete their faggotry. I'll quote this one for prosperity.

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (14 children) | Copy

Nah bro I own my shit. Theres a dozen chicks I can call at this hour who also are tired. But they'd bend over backwards on gravel to gobble my cock just to have it. Problem is my wife can't bother with a pillow.

[–]weakandsensitive7 points8 points  (13 children) | Copy

Theres a dozen chicks I can call at this hour who also are tired. But they'd bend over backwards on gravel to gobble my cock just to have it.

Bullshit. Or Do it and post proof. Because I guarantee you no one believes you.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

Maybe I settled for 2x to 3x. So what if I settled for an obese wife who hit what wall she could at 21. Shes 34 now well past it. I'm 30 and climbing my prime smv. Were so far apart 4x is more likely. These extreme ratios are just not meant to work

[–]weakandsensitive5 points6 points  (11 children) | Copy

What the fuck does this shit have to do with the supposed women that would "backwards on gravel to gobble my cock just to have it."? You got phone calls to make or not?

Rhetorical question - clearly you don't. Cause you are GAAAAAY.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy

It means my smv is too high for my wife. But high enough that they would do it. My intention is figuring out how to let my wife submit without feeling overwhelming dread and dismay from it. Perhaps I need to give her the proof.

[–]hystericalbonding4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Perhaps I need to give her the proof.

Perhaps you need to read the sidebar.

[–]simbarlionRed Beret2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

He's right. Stop whining. If the odds are stacked so high against her and she won't do it... What does that say...?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

She is one stubborn sob. Or she is just done with trying to please mr you're not good enough for me because you won't do everything I want. Can't say i blame her.

[–]weakandsensitive5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey - jackass - stop deflecting.

What happened to your bitches on speed dial? Or were you as full of shit about that as I expected you to be?

[–]Two_kids_in_a_coat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a giant mess of humble brag and incoherency. You have no power Read the sidebar.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Bertha and Bessie didn’t answer their phone and Shamu was taking a bath.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

This gave me a good laugh. Mainly stepping back and seeing how pathetic my ego makes me.

I always think I'm better than this and when my wife hits that big red button called husbands ego I just step outside my little bubble frame and go nuclear in .2 seconds. There's a lot of details i white washed in my original post that even in my fit of rage i knew was too patheic to let other people see. I started the emotional roller coaster and my wife acts like the man in the argument. I'm so far in her frame i know how a woman feels being married to a real red pill man and trying to argue with him.

[–]weakandsensitive1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well that was a moment of unexpected clarity. Don't gotta admit it to retards on the internet whose sole purpose is to imply subtly or otherwise that your favorite hobby is standing on street corners waiting for dick, but it's good you admit it to yourself.

[–]KingSlapFight1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sounds like you're man enough to be honest with yourself, and need to continue acknowledging how much personal work you need to put into yourself to get your life and relationships in line.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wrecked.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

WTF?

So old boy wanted a BJ and instead got texts about custody.

That’s the TLDR. If you were alpha you would give her the custody agreement, or as already suggested if you were alpha you would be getting your dick sucked right now. This weekend I linked up with some army buddies of mine. One a Special Forces sergeant. Real monster, warrior. Makes me want to piss my pants kind of guy. Dude scares me he is that intense and focused. We had a few and he started to bitch about his wife. So I started dropping some pills on him.

guess what? 42 years old this guy has never had a woman swallow before. Never.

let that sink in.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy

> argued tonight about her not wanting to submit

Things you can't demand and.or negotiate for honestly: desire, respect, submission.

> she said she'd give bj with me standing up and then wanted me to fuck her add[ass]

So she's bending over backwards (and forwards) to please you, and your ego is so huge that's not enough for you

> How to kill ego before my wife makes me kill the puppy?

Your wife isn't making you do anything.

You wrote this a month ago:

> My wife knows how to get my rage to come out and does it monthly during her 3 days of pms. She seems accomplished when she manages to get me mad.

That's called having no frame. She knows your buttons but you let her push them, each and every time.

Also, I scanned the rest of your post history. It seems to consist of nothing other than posting "fag" and "suck my cock", and then insulting people. I suspect you've mistaken the locker room crudeness of MRP for validation that your unchecked anger and asshole personality are actually assets and will result in a perfect marriage. Have I got news for you.

[–]weakandsensitive2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hey... Trade secrets wtf.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Damn this has been going on for a long time. Its as if when her hormones change so do mine. I even have the clue app and know exactly when she starts bleeding.

It's always the same roller coaster ride of emotions and arguing over petty ass shit.

At least this time it wasn't over her not wanting to do anything at all. But still an argument avoided and shut down before it starts is what I want.

I feel like stfu and avoiding her during pms and first few days of her period is running from it though. But if i cant stop deer and not give in to the drama is it best option for me?

[–]KingSlapFight1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't have a clue app, because it doesn't matter. If she starts being emotional or unreasonable, I don't need a little reminder as to why it is, I just don't care. I maintain my frame and once she finishes her melt down she's welcome to come back to adult land where I live.

You on the other hand can't wait to jump in her frame, and actually have an app installed to try to help you maintain composure because you realize where her bitchiness is coming from. For fuck's sake, delete the app, and build your frame strong enough not to get drawn into female bullshit regardless of the root cause.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If she is to fat to get on her fat knees hang her fat head off the side of the bed and throat fuck her fat ass.

Lift your fat stomach out of the way first so you don’t smother her fat fucking face with your beer gut.

The thought of period sex with a fat ass is enough to make me turn gay. Bet that shit gets all over her thunder thighs.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did you ever think she might suck off the attractive guy that gives her “tingles” willingly no matter if she was kneeling on broken glass ?

Are you lifting ?

[–]MRPFuckMe12 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have three choices: continue being a faggot (most likely), fuck other women and stay with your land whale bitch wife, or leave.

Not sure what you want from us dude, unless you like being called a faggot.

[–]Cyprian_2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Your SMV is out the window, and non existent when you start deering about it all.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

deleted What is this?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Did you read anything from the sidebar? Any book? Because this is fucking pathetic.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nmmng wisnifg rational male and sgm.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Ok sounds like you went full rambo. You can't negotiate or demand submission. STFU and follow your MAP. The things you want will come naturally, from her or another woman.

[–]RedPillCoach2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Oh for the love of God.

It is getting harder and harder to tell apart the bluepill trolls and the redpill-esque spergs.

I guess next time she refuses to drop to her knees and suck your dick after a period of vagina drying negotiations you could just backhand her to the floor. When she finishes crying drag her to her knees by the hair and then pull her head back hard so she opens her mouth. Then you can just insert your member and throat fuck her.

That makes everybody happy, right?

Edit; To the Spergs: Just no. OK? This is illustrating absurdity by being absurd.

Edit 2: THIS is what "Rambo looks like." Get on your knees and suck that dick woman! I am 4X's better than you. Yep, that will work.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I've realized I need a little more improvement. My wife witnessed me behave like a toddler throwing a tantrum and getting controlled by my emotions. I lashed out called her names said stupid shit about fight club. Basically did everything that shouldn't happen.

When i finally manage to become the best version of myself how the fuck do i try to get my wife to get on her knees without her remembering that night i turned into the 6'2 emotionally abusive toddler?

[–]KingSlapFight1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I need a little more improvement

You need a shit ton of improvement.

When i finally manage to become the best version of myself how the fuck do i try to get my wife to get on her knees without her remembering that night i turned into the 6'2 emotionally abusive toddler?

If your behavior is as bad as you were alluding to, you need to own it. Make a short apology to her, tell her it was immature and you'll make a point not to do that again. Tell her you've just been sleeping poorly and are stressed because of work, and in the future you'll handle problems like that better. Tell her you know she wants to do anything that will make you happy, and you should have found a way to deal with her problem of her knees hurting better.

It's a little blue pill, but you do need to own your mistake, make her feel like it was a one off thing outside of character for you, and to play a little damage control.

Then going forward, stay away from having her drop to her knees on the ground for the time being. Regardless of whether she should be able, you've tainted the thing till you fix it. Next time, stand on the bed, and have her kneel on the bed and do it there. It introduces the act, and removes the hurdle she's now stuck on (the ground supposedly hurting her knees). Make the act fun. Make her feel good about doing it and pleasing you. If you handle it correctly she'll do it on the floor on her own after a little while.

Be a good captain. Stop trying to be a tyrant.

[–]ParaXilo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What are your stats?

[–]adeptintact1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Other than the DEERing, I think you did nothing wrong. If she wants to keep you, she should get on her knees to give you a BJ. Throw in some dread to help.



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