Did I pass my shit test?

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July 14, 2018

Swallowed the pill about a month ago. First real shit came today. My wife and usually take turns getting lunch ready for kids. She was upstairs doing something, and we didn’t have anything for lunch for my kids so I ordered delivery.

Dude showed up and my wife freaks.

“Why didn’t you tell me you ordered out??” “What do you mean?” “ You didn’t tell me you were ordering out? Now you’re making decisions, without me??” “Yes” “ You only care about yourself” blah blah blah “Honey, I ordered food for the kids. It’s gonna be alright”

She continues to freak out on me .. saying this isn’t a marriage and how I need to consult her on these things and I walk out the door.

Her smv is about a half of a point to a point below mine. How did I do?

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Title Did I pass my shit test?
Author Lion-Slicer
Upvotes 7
Comments 58
Date 14 July 2018 06:33 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/204215
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/8yvdih/did_i_pass_my_shit_test/
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[–]cholomiteMod / BP Downvote Magnet9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy

"So....you don't want any?"

Don't address the questions directly or give a straight answer. You were right to identify this as a shit test, but you deer'd too much when she started asking questions. Overall, not terrible, but did you get to enjoy your food? Letting her scare you away from the meal you got would have been pretty weak.

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

OP, in case you didn’t catch what he said here I will elaborate a little bit further because this is the right approach. Sometimes I will grab a treat for later on my way home. I will often get from my wife something like “You were out shopping and not coming home while I was here with these ornery kids!?” I repeat almost verbatim what cholomite wrote. “You don’t want any ice cream?” She usually will say “Well, I didn’t say I didn’t want any...” If she continues pushing for an explanation all you need to do is look at her and say “Sooooo, you don’t want any?” Usually, my wife stops at this point. If she continues all you need to do is keep it up. “I thought you liked ice cream? Just when you think you know someone. Anything else I should know about?”

Never once are you brought into her frame with this kind of an interaction. Keep it light and fun. I have found negative assertion is a great way to quickly put you on the offensive and not on the defensive end of any conversation. It is a classic pressure flip. Most people feel like they need to explain themselves. Let them. Negative assertion is like winding up a toy and letting it run in whatever direction you want. Now you are in the driver’s seat and can steer the conversation any way you would like.

Edit: This technique is negative inquiry and not negative assertion as I stated above.

[–]Lion-Slicer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I might have replied this way but I only ordered for my kids. We had leftovers.

[–]mindfulbutgutlessRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stop DEERing. Take the advice and apply it to fit YOUR situation. Also, learn to have fun with shit tests, cause there will be a lot of them.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret10 points11 points  (3 children) | Copy

You did just fine. But realize that this is only the beginning of the shit tests.

Just continue to improve.

[–]helaughsinhidden4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

This comment.

You have clearly been deep in her frame she thinks you have to get her permission to feed the fucking kids.

Question to OP, did you keep your cool when she lost her shit and did you leave the room letting her know you were pissed or were you chill AF?

[–]Lion-Slicer3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

I was pretty chill, I just walked out into the yard and picked up some toys for less than 5 min. Walked back in like nothing happened. It’s been couple hours now and she didn’t bring it up again.

[–]helaughsinhidden1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]RedPillCoach2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

"My" shit test.

You write as if this is the one Shit Test that you have to pass. Women don't use Shit Tests like snipers, waiting for a shot. They fire them like a machine gun with a seemingly unending belt of bullets.

More are coming.

Snapchat contact of an old boyfriend of hers

This is a very, very hard and loud boundary that was violated.

Ive been a dick for the last few days

How is that working for you?

[–]Lion-Slicer0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

I told her that I will not absolutely not tolerate this. Actually I’m not being a dick, but just stand-off ish. What am I supposed to do act like I don’t care??

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Damn I’m good....

“when she was out of town that he lasted 45 minutes.”

You weren’t providing any tinglestm and she got them from an ex boyfriend. Sorry bro.

[–]Lion-Slicer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Ha, to be fair he wasn’t with her.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

But was planning to...

She (drunk) called him for 45 minutes faggot.

She’s looking for FEELZ that she isn’t getting from home... period.

Now it all makes sense. She didn’t freak out that you ordered a damn pizza, she’s pissed that you forced her (by being a supplicating beta)to seek her ex-Chad boyfriend to get her sweet juices flowing again and risked becoming a cheating whore on her husband and kids in front of her whole family.

You’re not generating any tinglestm faggot.

MRP on hard mode now, full Rambo for you.

Permission granted. Should have been working out a week ago.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Except you already did tolerate it.

[–]RedPillCoach0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

am I supposed to do act like I don’t care?

About being in contact with a man who she has seen naked and has been inside your wife? I wouldn't act like I don't care. The hard and loud boundary is for you to set.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Was this really a shit test, or just being shitty? Shit tests are foreplay, right? This sounded more like straight up dominance behavior. She’s used to being in charge and trying to put OP back in his place.

[–]RedPillCoach0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It becomes foreplay when you keep yourself in charge and then refuse to be drawn into her maelstrom of emotions about your "change."

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine3 points4 points  (12 children) | Copy

Great - up until you walked out the door like a little faggot.

You have a long history with her of being a beta pussy and a long track record of showing no leadership. Would you trust you now?

Now you make one little decision and she freaks out - it’s normal. For a second you showed your dick, now it’s hiding again. She doesn’t trust you to lead shit. It will get worse before it gets better. Keep it up. At least you have a jump start on your SMV.

Next time when she freaks out, just AA it or shut the fuck up since you’re new at this. Show her nothing she says affects you. When you do finally not hide your dick, make a funny and cocky joke, laugh and pick up the nearest phone and act like you’re calling the president for his approval to pay for the delivery. laugh, smack her ass and walk away or continue doing whatever you fucking want to. Who gives a fuck what she thinks.

All these years, she owned the frame and you operated in it, you need to read and implement sidebar to operate in your own frame ===>

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (11 children) | Copy

"When she's acting like a bitch, STFU and leave"

Guy STFU and leaves

"You walked out like a faggot, faggot!!!"

He did just fine walking out when she's being an insufferable cunt.

[–]Lion-Slicer4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy

See, this is what i thought I was supposed to do. Walk out if she is behaving badly. I also get that holding frame and not letting anything bother me may be effective too though. Man this shit is tricky.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

It is tricky, but it gets easier with time.

The fact that you left to go pick up some toys is a solid bonus. It's less butt hurt and more "I have shit to do rather than sitting here listening to you bitch and moan".

I would have probably chuckled and said, "okay babe..." as I left because this fight is seriously beneath me and I refuse to engage in it. But I don't think you're there yet.

[–]kendallb1831 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Reread saving a low sex marriage. He tells you exactly what to do here. You did great, but you could have done a little extra to show your not butt hurt leaving... your leaving because your timenisnt going to be wasted listening to her bitch.

Better situation would to have started getting ready for the gym, told her you love her, and left. Would look a lot less butt hurt and more focused on your mission.

The book says not to withdrawal affection unless its related to her refusing to fuck you. If shes just being cunty, withdrawal attention and presence temporarily.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I'm going to paraphrase a saying here. It's not whether you pass a shit test or not pass a shit test, IT'S HOW YOU PLAY THE GAME!

Because a shit test isn't even a shit test. It is a series of shit tests. Some are important shit tests and some are less important shit tests. The key is to play the game.

[–]wkndatbernardus0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Some games you will win. Some games you will lose. The goal though is to participate in as many games as you can and WIN as many games as you can over a extended period of time.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just keep this simple faggot.

u/angels_fan has it right. You’re only a month in, you have no frame or value in her eyes. You are her beta bucks, you even go pick up the toys for her when she gets pissy like a good little beta. You do as you are told. She likes that. That way she can continue getting all the resources ($) and not have to put out. She has her own personal whipping boy -you- to help pick up the house.

You did awesome by taking the lead and planning dinner without permission.

She doesn’t want the dynamic to change - she can probably start to feelz the shifts in other areas too if you been doing things correctly- so the shit testing will get worse.

Best you can do right now is stfu and get away. More studying ===>. When you start getting good at game, getting IOIs from other chicks, up your SMV, you’ll need to set a hard boundary with her eventually if she’s still being a cunt. Start practice AA too. She needs to start feeling the Dread.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

She will always be an insufferable cunt until he becomes a man and NGAF.

Big difference there, she didn’t interpret him leaving as him owning his shit, she only saw him running away from HER - since he’s still fag in her eyes.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Right. Beta would have supplicated and DEERed and apologized.

He left.

He's doing fine. Until he gets frame, STFU and leaving are his best weapons.

To your edit: he's a pussy fag to her for a whole host of reasons. Had he stayed, more than likely be would have just dug his own grave.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

She’s probably fucking the pizza delivery guy right now in his own bed.

Uncle Chad would never leave HIS own house.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Solid call. Very solid.

[–]ChokingDownRPRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You'll get to the point where you don't even hear the harping because you're focused on your mission, and not her BS. Just don't engage that nonsense at all. Keep making decisions. Be unaffected by her criticism of you handling your shit.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Fucking own it without apology or defending. STFU or A&A it if you’re ready for A&A. AM with a little mixed comfort would work well also.

She doesn’t like that her little beta boy is doing stuff on his own. Keep doing it because her way overblown reaction is a sign she’s seeing changes. Don’t go too Rambo though - mix in a little comfort...

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

“because her way overblown reaction is a sign she’s seeing changes about to fuck Chaz - Chad’s retarded but jacked little brother “

[–]wkndatbernardus1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Chaz does especially well with the "low lubrication" ladies...you know, because of his drooling issue.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Most definitely wears a dragon shirt at the club too.

[–]wkndatbernardus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The third brother is Chazzy. He bangs ho's with John Coltrane playing in the background

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Why are you focusing on pizza?

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Pedofiles secret code symbol....

His wife is “talking” to Chad and it doesn’t seem to bother him, must be into children.

[–]Rian_StoneMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Jesus fuck 😂😂😂😂

[–]Fritz_Frauenraub0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

There's going to be a whole hell of a lot more of this kind of thing...months and months of it...as she starts digging in her heels on your attempt to extricate.

Also you'll begin noticing her frequent use of powertalk which was there all along.

Make sure you read NMMNG and WISNIFG right away.

[–]Lion-Slicer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I have read nmmng and mmslp. Still have to read wisnigf

[–]Calistyle0330 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

To add to this, wouldn't a good leader ask their FO if she wants any pizza? Don't ask her what she wants to eat or what she thinks about it

Just broken record if she doesnt want pizza for lunch and asks for something else..and if she continues to shit test order it regardless for your kids and move on like you did

This would help maintain a positive frame and keep it light in the house

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Again, I have no way to prove anything, but I made her delete his contact and I am monitoring her phone as best as I can

is it cozy there in her frame?

[–]Lion-Slicer0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

She started sucking my dick last night on our deck outside without me asking and then I took her inside and fucked her after I put a plug in her ass so you tell me.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

oh my god your wife let you fuck her?

you must be doing so well

[–]Lion-Slicer0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nah, sex was always good, I think she was reaching out for emotional support that I wasn’t giving her.

[–]wkndatbernardus0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Which is deeper; your D in her V or you in your wife's frame? My money's on the latter.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy

No. You did not pass. This wasn’t even a shit test. Shit testing is hypergamous in nature and is a tool used in female sexual strategy. She’s already determined that you’re not worth fucking so shit testing you served no purpose. On the other hand, she’s probably shit testing Chad, or the pizza delivery guy (or both). She’s just being shitty to you. And if you’re being honest with yourself, you probably deserve it because you’re a piece of shit.

Since you didn’t give us any information about yourself I skimmed through your post history. You have a lot of red flags, my friend, most notably your unhealthy preoccupation with drugs. You have a serious amount of personal improvement ahead of you and right now you should only be focused on building yourself into a better man. Once you make some real improvements, you can expect to be shit tested. Hopefully you’ll have read and internalized the sidebar materials by then and you’ll have some tools at your disposal for responding to shit tests. But until then ... STFU when she’s being shitty. You earned it.

[–]Lion-Slicer0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Oh great, another asshole who knows nothing about “drugs”. How about your caffeine you drink? That’s a drug.

What drug that I take offends you? The CBD, which has zeroTHC ( that’s the stuff in weed that gets you high), or the sub perceptual dose I take of psilocybin (magic mushrooms) that creates neuroplasticity in the brain?? Both of these “drugs” knock out my anxiety, make me way more sociable and make me get deep sleep so GTFO.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop being so butthurt, faggot. I don’t remember saying I was offended by your drug use, it’s your obvious preoccupation with it ... which you confirmed in your emotionally charged response to my comment.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

“knock out my anxiety”

Want to know how to take care of that anxiety?

Need to cultivate a strong “Inner Game”.

I was a 37 year old faggot who couldn’t talk to girls, couldnt give a work presentation, couldn’t get out of bed, etc. now I’m a machine. Total different person.

Side bar ===>.

[–]Horton2130 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

How did you conqour the presentation fear?

[–]rocknrollchuck-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

“Why didn’t you tell me you ordered out??” “What do you mean?” “ You didn’t tell me you were ordering out? Now you’re making decisions, without me??” 

Women will often tell their husbands something like "Why didn't you tell me before you did that?" So when she says stuff like this, address it in person . Be calm, and ask, "Oh so I need to understand, are you saying I need permission?"

Of course she'll balk, because she doesn't want permission from you for sure.

"So help me understand, I don't need permission but I need to consult with you? If you ask me not to, I still have a choice? Is that correct?"

She'll either double down and try to push it as her being consulted (so you go broken record), "But I'm an adult capable of making decisions?"; or she'll say "No it's my decision.", but I doubt she'd say that.

Your next step will be learning how to take advice from the First Officer.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

“Be calm” “ask”. Wtf?

“Your next step will be learning how to take advice from the First Officer.”

What is this gay shit?

His first officer is getting all wet from chatting it up with her ex-Chad.

Chad assumes permission and never listens to subordinates.

[–]classicthrowaway860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Too much DEERing

[–]CalvinRichland-4 points-3 points  (0 children) | Copy

"I don't need to ask your permission to provide food for this family" smirking and cocky as fuck thats how you roll this

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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