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Removing Presence and Passing Shit Tests

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March 21, 2018

Obligatory Cut the Shit Summary

  • Write down your stats (height, weight, bf%, lifts). You are keeping a journal of your workouts right? 6'2", 202, 14%, bench 220x5, squat 265x5, dead 325x5.
  • Write down all the books you have read in the sidebar and one sentence about what you learned from each one (even if you haven't finished it yet). Read NMMNG, rational male, MMSLP, blue professor’s podcasts, Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck, and Burn the Fat Feed the Muscle. Halfway through WISNIFG, which is awesome but tough to internalize.
  • Get your testosterone levels checked and write them down. Nope.
  • Write down your ratio of sexual initiations/rejections. Batting about .200
  • Write down the number of women besides your wife you could call right now to chill this weekend. 0.
  • Shit, write down the name of the last girl you flirted with who isn't your wife. None, working DL 1-4.
  • Write down how many days over the past 15 you have actively gamed your wife. 10 (5 were quality).
  • Write down two things you do that make you a good catch. I'm smart and I make people laugh.
  • Write down what you would do today if you did not have a wife/kids to go home to. Work, hike or bike, lift, then hang out with friends.
  • Write down what Dread Level you are on. 1-4.
  • Write down how many more months you have to go until you are an attractive man with options. 10.


On Ovulation day-2, wife comes back from GNO and commences comfort test, I provide comfort, then initiate and we have awesome sex. She told me she felt tingles when I initiated (she's never said that before). Next day she's cuddly and sleepy from being up so late, I let her get to be early and put the kids down. Ovulation day I get up early for work as usual, give her a kiss goodbye and she's clearly DTF, wet and ready to go. I finger her a bit then say I have to get to work so that'll have to wait for later, and that she's making it really hard for me to leave. I realize here I completely blew it. I could have gone for a caveman quickie to satisfy both of us. I could have been a few minutes later to work without adverse consequences and she knows that. Part of my thinking was showing her that I don't need sex, and to build up for that night. Next time I won't make that mistake.

Removing Presence

After work that night, I kino and after kids are down I initiate and get a hard no. I was surprised at the time, but looking back I'm sure she was pissed I didn't pound her in the morning and that dried her up. She goes back to her default line that she only wants sex once a week, and that's her being generous. After the hard no, I STFU, kiss her goodnight, roll over, and go to sleep.

Here's my first question. I know the idea is to remove my presence in response to rejection. I'm not at the point where I can do that immediately, so I thought I'll remove my presence the next day. Is that the right way to remove presence? The next day? Or is it a fresh start the next day?

So, the following day, I go to work, come home and pickup the kids and take them to the park to play, then out to dinner (bring some home for the wife). We put the kids down (kinoing as we do so) and I head directly to basketball after the kids are down and get home at 11.

Shit Test

She's usually in bed by 10, but is still up researching grad schools when I get home at 11. I shower and kiss her goodnight and she's still in the office researching. I go to bed and she comes in at 11:30 and starts asking me questions about credibility of grad schools. I see this as shitty behavior when I have to get up at 5:30 (and she's a SAHM), so I say I'm not starting that conversation at this hour and I have to get up for work. She STFU and played with her phone. Finally she gets in bed and we usually spoon. I roll over to spoon her and she doesn't want me to touch her at all. I STFU, roll over, and go to sleep.

Second question: was that a shit test and did I pass?

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Title Removing Presence and Passing Shit Tests
Author becoming_alpha
Upvotes 10
Comments 52
Date 21 March 2018 05:14 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]mrpthrowa9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

Why so uptight dude... she just wants company and is looking up to you... may be she's even clumsily initiating that way... who knows women are weird like that... instead you treated it very logically as if she really wanted to know about grad schools.

just answer her in a light hearted manner in a couple of sentences, kiss her forehead, tell her something like "now my little girl needs to go to sleep" as you spoon her treating her like the little girl she is... there are very few women who won't respond to this sort of alpha fatherly behaviour.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I like this. I'm totally using it next time.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy

I finger her a bit then say I have to get to work so that'll have to wait for later, and that she's making it really hard for me to leave. I realize here I completely blew it.

At least you realize that you blew it.

Here's my first question. I know the idea is to remove my presence in response to rejection.

Read the post on dread:

Dread Level 4: Begin conditioning your availability to your wife with her treatment of you. Your are busy now. You don't have time for a sexually disinterested, annoying, or angry wife. Take up another cause if you need to. This is a great time to join a martial arts club. Read The Ironwood Collection of Alpha Moves by Ian Ironwood. For more on this topic and how to implement this level see: The Husband's Dilemma.

And this:

And this:

And then you tell us the answer.

Second question: was that a shit test and did I pass?

That was a butt hurt test. Where you don't show butt hurt.... but you failed.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good links. On the first question, I think I removed presence correctly. I STFU and kept doing what I was doing that night and went to sleep. The next day, I had better stuff to do like letting the kids play outside and bball that I play every week. I just made sure there was very little overlap of when I was home and available. So yes, I played that right.

On the second question, If your wife comes to bed after you've gone to bed and wants to start what will be at least a half hour if not longer conversation about her career path, and you need to get up for work in 6 hours, that seems pretty shitty to me. I chose to not engage in verbal intercourse because I was tired. She has legit things she wants to talk to me about, but I'm prioritizing myself and my sleep over her hamstering about her career.

I'm not sure what a butt hurt test is or how I failed by STFU and go to sleep. Can you say more on that?

[–]ArticulateSavage1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy

Her attempt to initiate a late hour discussion while OP is in bed resting for his job, a responsibility she doesn't have I hasten to add, is inconsiderate, shitty behaviour. His calm decision to postpone the conversation was the correct one. Being married is "red pill on hard mode;" best to rest up for it.

[–]mrpthrowa2 points3 points  (6 children) | Copy

When your little girl clumsily tries to look up to you with a conversation after missing you for the entire day you don't just shut her down as if you have a stick up your ass, have some tact. Don't dwell on it too much but what's 3 minutes in this.

Clearly the woman stayed up that late for him. Clearly she just wanted some of his attention. I'd wager a bet he could've fucked her right there if he knew how to deal with it.

[–]ArticulateSavage1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

u/mrpthrowa he didn't want to fuck, he wanted to sleep, in order to be well rested for his Captain duties. That's pretty straightforward. When your little girl clumsily wakes you because her adult faculties and judgement are impaired by her immaturity and selfishness, calmly postponing her conversation, which will keep for the following day, is the right thing to do. OP wanted to sleep, so he did.

Don't dwell on it too much but what's 3 minutes in this.

When was your last conversation with your wife over something she was passionate about that lasted only three minutes? Think about what you're saying. Your wife is not a man. Expecting her to arrive at her point and discharge her opinion in three minutes is unrealistic. OP gets that, so he shut her down. Postponed the inevitable feels dump until he was better rested. Tactical move to concede the conversation and buy some time for rest. It's what I would've done.

[–]mrpthrowa1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

dude... wow

hint: she didn't really want to know about grad schools

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Actually she did. A couple nights later we talked through her top candidates and got down to best two schools and the credentials she'd end up with from each one. I gave her my opinion on her best option and she was happy with that. Took about half an hour.

[–]ArticulateSavage0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Who cares what she wanted to know about?

Fuck off, White Knight. Lookin' at you, u/mrpthrowa

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You guys are both right, I could have used some more tact and fatherly telling her to go to sleep, but I'm certainly not going to stay up all night talking when I have to get up early.

[–]The_LitzRed Beret1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Basically you start each day from scratch, zero. You start gaming her afresh.

Although it is a shitty situation if you get a hard no and you are already in bed, to get up and do something else and not look butthurt.

If after repeated rejections, you will have to remove your presence the next day, until she plays the nice card. The biggest failure for guys here is looking butthurt at that time.

As for the morning faux pass, if she is ready to go in the morning, chances are really slim she is still ready in the afternoon, in fact, she has cooled all the way down, especially if she is slow to warm up as standard. I once had my wife flash me and give me a hard no later. They cool down that fast. The saying about striking when the iron is hot...

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I like your perspective on starting each day from scratch, also that after repeated rejections is time to withdraw time and attention. Where I'm only batting .200, I'd be gone all the time if I withdrew after every rejection. Maybe as my batting average gets better, I can get closer to direct operand conditioning with withdrawing time and attention.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

... I don't need sex...

Why would you ever want to convince her of that? I need sex. I show love through sex. Sex is a primary need in my life. My wife knows that through my actions.

What you need to demonstrate is that you want sex from her, that she is there to fulfill that roll and that you will gladly get someone else to do that job of she isn't whole heartedly eager to do that job.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Good clarification. I want sex, and I want it with her. Working on that next step if she's not eager to do the job (though she was eager that morning).

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge0 points1 point  (19 children) | Copy

Nice beta boy for following directions. You make a great provider for her I bet.

Question 1: Removing your presence probably does nothing for her at this point. Your SMV isn’t high enough. She probably likes when you leave her alone.

Question 2: Not a shit test. She was asking you a legit question and you acted too serious and got butt hurt. Why so uptight? Even though it was late, just answer it in a way that you get HER talking. Just repeat her question in the form of a statement , “ so, you’re looking into credible grad schools..” she’ll take the bait and run with it. It’s called “Parroting”. When she’s talking run some game, kino, touching, etc. You get credit for listening.

You also should be gaming her all the time.

[–]johneyapocalypse1 point2 points  (12 children) | Copy

I have to disagree with at least two of your points:

Nice beta boy for following directions. You make a great provider for her I bet.

Following directions is not beta. In fact, ddp's prescription for posting is helpful as fuck I wish the other douchebags used it more often.

Your SMV isn’t high enough.

6'2", 202, 14%, bench 220x5, squat 265x5, dead 325x5 is a good god damn start and more than enough to slay with.

Regarding OP:

I was surprised at the time, but looking back I'm sure she was pissed I didn't pound her in the morning and that dried her up.

I think you're a little full of shit with that.

Oh, and OP don't go crazy parsing every goddamn interaction you have with your wife. You're putting way too much pressure on yourself. Christ there are a lot of days left in your life, you don't need to nail your wife (or finger her) on all of them. You can miss out on a few.


I'm not at the point where I can do that immediately, so I thought I'll remove my presence the next day. Is that the right way to remove presence? The next day? Or is it a fresh start the next day?

Pavlov would tell you to remove it immediately but then again he probably didn't get laid much. I still think the correct answer for you is "chill out bro."

was that a shit test and did I pass?

It sounds like she didn't want to spoon you. Correct answer: chill out, bro.

Perhaps you're just a little too focused on "becoming_alpha" a little too quickly?

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[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

Physically, yes, he has a high SMV, But his perceived SMV -according to his wife- isn’t there yet. He admits he is only at levels 1-4 and couldn’t game another chick.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy

Hasn't gamed != couldn't game. Not ready for higher dread levels yet.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy really does. Tell yourself all you want, until you're actually doing it, your ability is all fantasy in your head.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're right, it's theoretical at this point. But I did pretty well in my single days and don't doubt I could game another girl. I'm sticking to the lower levels of dread and only go deeper if more dread is needed in the marriage. I know I'm limiting myself and my abundance mindset, but I'm playing the long game. Only 5 months into my 15 months for 15 years of marriage.

[–]redesquire0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

You should see more gains in your wife's responsiveness and sexual interest as you up your dread. There's no reason why you can't implement levels 5 (start dressing better) and 6 (begin studying pickup artist techniques) right now.

After too many years of being fat and out of shape, I started working out, dropped 40 lbs and got my bf to ~16% (all pre-redpill). Objectively, I looked better in my late 30s than I had our entire marriage so I couldn't understand why my wife wasn't attracted to me, and why our sex life remained stagnant (about 1/week, mostly starfish). I rarely initiated because I always expected either a hard no or lackluster sex with conditions attached. I had put in the work, so I "deserved" more and better sex, right??? (covert contract alert).

Then in the summer of 2016 I stumbled across MRP and my eyes were opened and my mind was awakened. I started reading, continued lifting, and began implementing dread. Within six months my wife was showing significantly more interest in sex, and was more adventurous than ever. Things that had been 100% off the table were now in play, and she was rarely saying no. Not coincidentally, these changes occurred during my progression through dread levels 5-8.

I recently learned that my wife was resentful that I felt entitled to more and better sex simply because I looked better. She flat out told me that I turned her off when I would tell her how much weight I had lost, or what I was lifting. Not only that, but I was still recovering from being a very drunk captain, and I still had a lot of unattractive traits. Thus, while I had become more attractive physically, I was still otherwise unattractive.

Now, I can't even remember the last time I initiated and was rejected. Keep pushing on the gas, brother. Don't stop at level 4 if you're not where you want to be.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Thanks for that. I feel like I'm in a similar boat and would like to see similar results. Yeah, I'm heading into level 5 (just got a new suit), and I should start digging into level 6. When I finish WINSIFG, reading Bang is next on the list. I need that abundance mindset.

[–]redesquire0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

No problem brother. Reading your posting history, your situation is eerily similar to mine. In fact, your "2 months in" post could have been written by me (except I'm 3 years older and 3 inches shorter than you).

Out of curiosity, are you mormon? If so, and depending on how devout she is, you may need to customize your MAP a bit in order to best navigate the dread waters. Mormon women are a different animal, and have 30 solid years of being placed on a pedestal from all angles, while at the same time being shamed into sexual purity. Oh, and then there's the million fucking boxes to check, including the most important ... temple marriage to ensure their seat at the CK table. Make no mistake, any beta faggot will accomplish that goal as long as he's "worthy." Finally, you're not married just to your wife, you're in a 3-some with JC himself.

And if you're not mormon, what in the FUCK were you doing getting married at 21????

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, I'm Mormon. I think there are many of us on here trying to fix broken sex lives. The church makes a beta mindset look like what you're supposed to do, but I think that's really more culture than doctrine. My wife is devout when it lines up with her internal values which is most of the time. You're right about 30 years of being on a pedestal, and 30 years of shame. There's essentially no positive messages about sex in the church. What do you suggest to customize my MAP?

[–]johneyapocalypse0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're right.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks Johney. Yeah, I am pretty dang focused on becoming_alpha. I'll chill out a bit, but wanted to check with the community that I'm on the right track.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Question 1: yeah, you're right. I'm not above her in SMV (or not high enough above her), and she's not feeling dread yet.

Question 2: She was trying to engage me in verbal intercourse when I wanted to sleep like when I try to engage her in sexual intercourse when she wants to sleep. I had zero interest in discussing grad schools at that hour. It seemed like some kind of a test to me. It's way out of character for her to stay up late and be so eager to talk.

So if that's not a shit test, but I have no interest in talking for the next half hour instead of sleeping, do you suggest a better response?

You're right that I need to be gaming all the time.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Maybe she’s starting to feelz the dynamic changing... how long you been at this?

Whatever it was, you came across butthurt. She wanted to talk, you acted butthurt, and then tried spooning with her..? .. should have done both.

Could have played it two ways.

1). If she was being a CUNT, say let’s talk bout this in the morning. Stfu. Enjoy your sleep.

2). The way you wrote it doesn’t appear to be shitty behavior, so just play along, she probably has no intent on actually going to grad school, come on,,, really. She probably just wanted to get a hit off the positive feelzings of the idea.... don’t deny her of that feelz.

I would run some game on her. Talk about it, what she wants to study, how much does she think she’ll make extra $$$ when she gets out, totally be positive, give her good feelz.. meanwhile, be touching all over her tits, stroking her hair, kissing, grabbing that ass. Should be an easy conversion. In the morning, the whole idea of grad school will seem like “too much work”. Last time you will ever hear about it.

She wants feelz... let her have it. If not, she’ll get her feelz by shit testing you, bitching about the house being a mess, creating drama that doesn’t exists. At least this way, it’s controlled by you and it’s never her lashing out at you in an emotional melt down over something retarded, like drapes.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Maybe she’s starting to feelz the dynamic changing... how long you been at this?

5 months, and yes, she is feeling the dynamic change. Recent comfort tests have been about my motivation to work out (I've been religious about lifting 3 or not 4 times a week the last 4 months). She said point blank she feels like her sexual rejections of me are driving me to get a hot body. I said I've just decided to prioritize myself and finally go after goals I've had for myself for years.

The way you wrote it doesn’t appear to be shitty behavior, so just play along, she probably has no intent on actually going to grad school

She's absolutely going to go to grad school so she can do what she can go back to work doing what she wants when all the kids are in school. We've spent many hours the last months discussing what path she wants to pursue. This latest idea is a new path and she's weighing the best programs and the conversation would have been lengthy, that's why it was shitty to bring up when it was late and I was trying to go to sleep.

I'm not worried about the no spooning. I basically communicated my sleep was more important than discussing her career at that moment, not surprised she didn't feel cuddly and I don't really care. I'll talk to her later on my timetable about all that stuff and it'll all be fine.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Ok. Sounds like you are doing great. Keep it up. Still in anger phase, just chill out a little. I’m still feelz like you missed a fuck session.

[–]simbarlionRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What's going on mctc? So much to say....

It must be beta time of the month /s

[–]MrChad_ThundercockChief Autist in Charge1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Just trying to help OP get his dick wet.

[–]RedPillCoach0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

she comes in at 11:30 and starts asking me questions about credibility of grad schools. I see this as shitty behavior when I have to get up at 5:30

I see a typical woman.

She STFU and played with her phone.

Do you know what she is doing on her phone?

doesn't want me to touch her at all


was that a shit test and did I pass?

Yes and barely. I would be more concerned about her wanting a GNO during ovulation and playing on her phone without you knowing what she is doing. If she is playing Kandy Krush that is one thing. If she is on Tinder or Cheatingwives then that is quite another.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do you know what she is doing on her phone?

No, but probably FB.

more concerned about her wanting a GNO during ovulation

I should have called it a girls night in. Birthday party at a friend's house down the street, they just sat around and talked about their husbands and feelz. I'm not concerned.

[–]RedPillCoach1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see you like your Red Pills with a large side of Venison.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What do you want---

Did you want to talk to her late at night with work in the morning? No? Good, and you told her so.


Did you want to fuck her before work?

No? Ok so u didnt. It's not wrong but don't go complaining later that she's not fucking you enough.

Yes? Then yeah you fucked up.


Why do you want to remove your presense the next day?

To follow dread level 4? No...dread level 4 teaches you to get hobbies for's not an if/then reaction to her.

Because you wanted to do something the next day? Sure, go do it.


Do you want to spoon with her? I used to spoon with my wife because I thought she liked it. Now I do it when she makes me feel close to her. Don't spoon for her. Spoon for you.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did you want to fuck her before work?

Yes, I want a ready, willing, enthusiastic partner and I didn't capitalize. I think my takeaway is if it's something I want (enthusiastic sex) but it's not convenient, I should do it. If it's something I don't want (long conversations about careers) and it's not convenient, I shouldn't do it.

Thanks for the feedback.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The reason your wife wasn’t down is that you aren’t attractive to her. Woman love seduction to be dragged out. Same situation different man she would have been burning when he got home. Because he knows how to keep it going AND she wants to be with him.

Time and attention. Your relationship is a sexual one. Period. She refuses or withholds sexy or any reason other than medical or legit life issues, then you remove the relationship aspect. It’s business a t this point. In some cases it means you leave the house or room in other cases it means no kisses, hugs, or the things a husband does for his wife. But you keep applying the sexual overtones of the relationship until she gets the hint.

Most of you think you initiate at bed time. She says no. Then you jump up out your pants back on and leave. Maybe that happens. I’ve done it, but this is really late stage dread. It really sets the tone. early stage you withdraw slowly and make it clear the she doesn’t provide her part of the relationship you aren’t providing yours.

When a man just flat out propositions a woman for sex she gets offended right? The same thing happens to a man when a woman demands he provide comfort without his needs being met.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You're spot on. I'm not attractive to her, and I only have myself and 10 years of beta behavior to blame for it. She's complained the last couple months about me being more physical (kinoing) thinking maybe I have too much testosterone from working out more. If she was attracted to me, she'd be into the kino and where it leads. Instead, she thinks I'm taking something from her when we have sex, and kino leads to sex so she's generally not into that either.

All I can do is stay the course and be more attractive. She'll either see that I'm not the same beta I used to be, or she won't.

[–]ArticulateSavage0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy

First, well done on the body composition numbers. You're in the top 1% in the United States. Keep on keeping on in that regard. Still though, find something you don't like about your appearance and begin correcting that. You've got the body. Any other little investments in your appearance go a long way and may generate some passive dread.

Second, you seem to be doing just fine. Your decision to sleep vice engaging in a discussion which can easily wait was the correct call. You need to rest in order to be a sober, competent captain in the morning. Her decision to talk about grad school credibility was not a shit test, it was just inconsiderate. It seems that you have internalized the point of WISNIFG very well. Keep that up.

Third, you shot her down for sex, she shot you down for sex. Whatever. Some thirsty dudes on here are going to get on your case for turning down her importune sexual advances. Bully for her that she has no job to go to. You don't have that luxury. She shot you down, you went to sleep. What's wrong with that.

Finally, OP, you are crushing it, bro. Keep doing what you're doing.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Thanks bro.

I think you're right she was just being inconsiderate, not a shit test. I've really been trying to internalize WISNIFG, glad it's showing.

My goal is 1,000 club on my lifts by the end of the year (just over 800 now). My appearance goal is to look like Captain America when he comes out of stark's magic super solider machine. I've got a long way to go on that one. Just bought a new suit for an upcoming business trip and getting rid of clothes that don't fit well. Whitening my teeth too. All part of the MAP and I've noticed this stuff really gets my wife's hamster going.

[–]ArticulateSavage0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Yes, man!

This is what I'm talking about. You're looking good, now you're going to brighten that smile, up the amperage on those pearly white and get a new suit. I love it. That's what we do. Own that shit.

1000lbs by December is doable. Are you using 5,3,1 from T-Nation? This program will ensure that you get there.

Keep up the reading, OP. I think you're well down the path to leading an enviable life.

[–]becoming_alpha[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks. I started with 5x5 stronglifts for a couple months and had some great early gains. Then I plateaued and was getting stronger but no physical changes. Decided to modify my plan to once a week strength (5x5), twice a week hypertrophy (4x10), and work on accessory lifts on a 4th day per week. I'm still focused on core lifts: bench, squat, dead, row, OHP, curls.

1,000 is a doable goal, but I'd rather err towards aesthetics and looking how I want instead of straight strength at this point. I'll look at 5,3,1 though. Maybe a good plan for my next bulk in the fall.

[–]ArticulateSavage0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Having a fitness goal is a key success driver. Your goal is aesthetics. It's a legitimate goal. Keep on keeping on.

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whats WISNIFG?

[–]ArticulateSavage0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It is a book entitled, "When I Say No I Feel Guilty," the author is Manuel Smith. Your local library will likely have a copy. It contains ten solid laws regarding your responsibilities to yourself and others. It also elaborates on several strategies for dealing with difficult people. Any ideas where that may come in handy?

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Would help me with my erode any remains of my inner beta so I can focus on myself without being self sacrificing for other people. With Women, if you fail to game her and end up being a time whore, I can see it helping with refusing to do so.

[–]ArticulateSavage0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The book goes hand-in-hand with "No More Mr Nice Guy." (IMO) I found NMMNG pertained better to me, YMMV.

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