Wanted: Op-Sec Tips for MRPers out there getting numbers

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July 24, 2017

TL:DR - How do MRPers text/game other women, while minimizing risks of being busted?

I'm not talking about keeping phone numbers or pics safe on your phone. I'm asking about anything after the number close - I've never given my number out nor used a number I've taken. I don't see it discussed on MRP, yet many of us are supposed to be doing this to up the dread in our marriages among other reasons.

So, looking for practical answers:

  • When you get phone numbers, do the women already know you're married? I'd assume a lot of guys don't wear their rings and just lie if asked.

  • Are you selective in who you text? Worried about reverse phone number lookups from a SJW girl who'd just love to expose you as a cheater? Did you delete that long-dormant Facebook for the same reason?

  • Related to the above - Do you use any other applications to send messages, or just use your personal cell and hope it doesn't blow up later?

And yes, I'd rather ask these autistic questions here than risk fucking up because I met a cutie and made the mistake of texting her.

Edit: formatting

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Title Wanted: Op-Sec Tips for MRPers out there getting numbers
Author BarracudaRP
Upvotes 7
Comments 31
Date 24 July 2017 10:16 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/205810
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/6pbuhl/wanted_opsec_tips_for_mrpers_out_there_getting/
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[–]sexyshoulderdevil75% Liquid Sarcasm8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

You know, the numbers aren't the thing...not really. Your goal is to be able to talk to other humans that happen to be female with such an air of confidence and charisma that you can clearly see she would like a piece of you. If at that point you want the number so you can mark it off your list, have at it and ask. Then do what you want. But the goal is to know you know how to talk to random women in way that shows you're a confident, masculine man. That confidence then carries on with you in future interactions...which will likely include your wife.

In the meantime, dial back the spaz. Spaz is bad for talking to women.

[–]BarracudaRP[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Your goal is to be able to talk to other humans ... with confidence and charisma ... to know you know how to talk to random women in a way that shows you're a confident, masculine man... in future interactions which will likely include your wife.

Nailed it. I open everyone, I just don't ask for numbers from the old lady on the elevator.

And since talking to humans is the goal, there may not be much to gain from anything beyond Catch and Release.

[–]Big_Daddy_PDX5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Catch & release. What is there that is confusing? Ever been fishing? Catch & release. It isn't "catch, pull into the boat, take measurements, show the other fishermen, pose for a photo, put on your stringer, then release".
If a person is too much of a pussy that they need to take their ring off for C&R then they probably shouldn't me doing it.
See an attractive chick, engage her, flirt, get her number, then move on. If your wife sees the number in your phone or pocket, the obvious response is "oh, I think it's the number for that cute Barista girl. Or maybe that Pilates instructor."

[–]blarggggggggggg4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

You have way too much anxiety to even consider 'getting numbers'.

Also, you're not making sense, how is this going to 'up the dread' if you're hiding it from your wife?

I think guys get numbers 'catch and release' just as a gauge of their attractiveness and to help with their outcome independence - to realize they have options. Too often it's a crutch and external validation seeking. But it can have its uses.

Without passing any moral judgement on this - I think if you go further to the point of texting/cheating, you need to make the decision that you are willing to 'fuck up' your marriage and throw it away if you get caught. And the possibility of getting caught is more than 0% no matter what your op-sec.

[–]BarracudaRP[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You have way too much anxiety to even consider 'getting numbers'.

I wasn't clear. I get the numbers, my questions are about what (if anything) is next.

Also, you're not making sense, how is this going to 'up the dread' if you're hiding it from your wife?

Passive dread, like buying new underwear. After I've been around an attractive woman, my wife can smell it a mile away. Maybe it's my confidence, or subconscious cues, or pheromones - whatever it is, it inspires actual dread in my wife and (along with lifting, reading and STFU) has done wonders for my sex life and marriage.

Too often it's a crutch and external validation seeking.

Excellent point. My first priority is destroying the ego, not replacing one source of validation for another.

[–]PersaeusRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

do the women already know you're married?

yes. i have found i do better with my ring on.

Are you selective in who you text?

yes, i prefer non-white, hot, and married with kids.

i think your concern about being stalked by a SJW is OVERBLOWN. people just living their lives. you're not all that. your FB account should be setup for maximum control/security anyway . . . so no worries there.

as big_daddy said, once you start texting to the fish you will rapidly find one you want to eat. i have texted a bunch and fucked a few. not anymore; but at first i was amazed how fast women will take the texting to some version of "gimme your dick". ultimate slippery slope here.

Do you use any other applications to send messages

use a variety of apps depending on what she's into. my fav is kik. my phone is locked (although wife sometimes gets into it for legitimate reasons); and i have all notifications from apps disabled. like others have said, DO NOT CHEAT UNLESS YOU ARE OI ABOUT BEING CAUGHT. i don't obsess about opsec because i don't obsess about getting caught.

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lot of judgements being passed in this thread...

Any who, if you want to go beyond simply chatting up a woman get an alternate line, from a place like Google. Consider getting a cheap burner phone, there's no paper trail for texts and phone calls.

Second, I've had friends get busted simply because they had an iPhone. They downloaded Tinder and it showed up in the cloud. I have android, my wife doesn't. This makes opsec much easier. I use signal for texting which allows for some great security (disappearing messages, can't be screen capped, etc)

Lots of third part apps for texting, whatsapp, etc. No need to go into that. There's also non traditional options, like words with friends, Twitter and of course Facebook. Stay away from Facebook frankly though, it's too wide a window. Personally I haven't posted to Facebook in years (corresponding to swallowing the pill) as it's a time suck. I have it locked down and only family and a few close friends.

The biggest thing? Don't change your routine. People tip their hat because all of the sudden their phone is always upside down or locked with a new code. Turn off all your notifications (you should anyway for productivity reasons), and just treat it like normal.

Protip: opsec isn't just for cheating, it can be valuable in starting a divorce.

[–]Soberskipper3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

If your just catch and release number closing then I don't see the problem or potential problems, if you have a strong enough frame and another woman rings you whilst with the wife it's not that difficult to pull off, at the end of the day you haven't cheated you've only spoken to another human being.

However if it's plating that you actually want to do then: 1. Never shit where you eat, go out of town to bars, different city on tinder and no sluts from work. 2. Never ever use your real name. First name is OK but no surnames. 3. Get another phone, a cheap £10 Nokia and put a £1 sim card in. 4. If your smartphone can have 2 users open another user and link your new number to the other user. Install some msg apps, What's app is a good app to use as it's easy to delete any chat history. 5. Always, always, always bang on the first date if she isn't game don't meet her again. 6. Keep fuckin and gaming your wife throughout.

Atm I'm not currently plating, way too busy but the guilt and constant nerves wear off when your abundance mentality and outcome independence get to the correct level. Eventually you learn not to give a fuck.

[–]bogeyd6Mod / Red Militia2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

New guys, just go ahead and skip this comment.

When I am out and about I wear my wedding ring. Should I be asked, I would answer that yes I am married. The dogma suggests that even if you were single you should claim to have a girlfriend. Most women do not care, some do. I can tell you with 100% certainty that other married women (read: Soccer Moms) highly prefer a married affair partner. False assurance wins the day on that. Younger girls will be hit or miss, and that largely depends on how attractive you are and how much game you put into play. A young woman once told me directly that she wasn't interested in married guys, only to be interested as hell only thirty minutes later. Think about what you read on post wall women and it pretty much sums up the fucking game.

The biggest issue I see with guys who are plating girls is the concept of playing with dynamite. Eventually something is going to blow up if you are not constantly handling your business. So yes, you need to be selective and look for the signs of a crazy ass bitch. Never stick your dick in crazy. They are the ones who show up at your wife's work and harass her with evidence. They will blow your life up just because you decided to stop fucking them.

The ideal goal for me is to have FWB's in the place that I travel, ala Tiger Woods but without the maintenance. Therefore you become the hot fun guy to hook up with when he is in town. The downside is these FWB's end up getting into relationships. The upside is sometimes they are so into you that it doesn't matter. They come running when you whistle.

Now, lock your phone with a password and delete all your texts and remove the apps you are using to text each time you are done. Your phone should always be clean. Rarely do I get phone numbers. When I do I use google voice so it cannot come back directly to me. Also, google voice will store the texts for me to see later because the app was removed. Turn off notifications and check it on your own time. If you constantly check it and reply you are going to come off as thirsty. You could also use snapchat or whatsapp but unless you have a legit other reason to use them, they will be red flags should someone go snooping.

[–]screechhaterRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Autistic answer - you aren't ready if yuh have to ask.

That's the name of the game. It starts with small steps until you are bold enough to truly execute a talk, humor poke or two, then get the number because you seem to be fun

[–]justpickanyusernameRed Beret3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

IMO, if you can't handle getting busted yet, you shouldn't be playing the game.

[–]318jimmynow1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

[–]innominating1 point2 points  (13 children) | Copy

Women mostly know I'm married. I don't lie about it. I don't always wear a ring due to taking it off to lift and another hobby and failing to put it on. But if I escalate tension the question of whether I'm attached always comes up. If they ask if I'm married I say with a grin and laugh, "yes, that means I'm only good for sex." Sometimes they'll ask if I have a girlfriend and my answer is, "that and more."

I'm not worried about getting caught. It is an outcome I've come to grips with.

I use Burner on my phone with notifications disabled. Burner is locked. My phone is locked, though my wife knows the code.

[–]BarracudaRP[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

Thanks for replying to my questions - this is the type of perspective I was looking for.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I know the mantra here is delete Facebook but it can be a powerful social proof / dread tool.

Don't put your number on Facebook. Use a name that isn't easily found, or change your settings so that only you can find and add people.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (5 children) | Copy

Loyalty is a manly virtue.

Don't cheat on your wife. You married her, you aren't some female branch-swinger. You belittle yourself by even considering it. It makes you less of a man.

Edit: IDGAF if you think this is moralizing, this is a sub for men. You start acting like an untrustworthy hypergamous hoe you're gonna get called the fuck out. Divorce her if you want to spin plates. Lying is bluepill bullshit.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Moralize much?

Stop judging.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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