"Get on all fours" - completely backfired

weakandsensitive · 2017-02-09T08:03:17+00:00

Before TBP jumps all over this (which I'm sure they will since this is probably as juicy as they come),

and here we have the autist merper who doesn't understand calibration.

Chalk it up as a failure and try again next time. Shit happens.

If you want MRP to solve this problem, better send your wife in since we aren't mind readers.

rp_findingmyway · 2017-02-09T11:24:14+00:00

Interesting. Probably went too hard with the Rambo. Ironically, during sexy times with my wife last night, I also started out missionary and then wanted her to flip over. I didn't tell her to "get on all 4's" but rather just said "turn over and show me your gorgeous ass". She happily complied.

My guess is that your wife wants the assertiveness/dominance from you but without feeling like she's being ordered around by a drill sergeant.

nonnimoose · 2017-02-09T16:26:03+00:00

She half-heartedly came just before I did.

Translation: she faked that orgasm so that you would finish up.

Is it possible that she was almost there and then the change in positions caused her to "lose" that orgasm. For me, if I'm just about to come, whatever is going on right then needs to keep going on. It's possible that the switch in positions killed the physiological momentum needed to get over the edge and then after the fact she attributed it to your words.

Archwinger · 2017-02-09T15:58:00+00:00

That just means you have more work to do.

You're coming along well. Your wife is fucking you on the regular. She's letting you lead the sexual encounters and complying with your requests. She's even having orgasms.

But after the fact, she still feels dirty and used for fucking you. She remembers who you were, she sees the remaining flaws in who you are currently, and after the heat of the moment dies down and the sex is over, she feels disgusted for letting you, a loser, make her into your little slut.

When you hit the point where random women are finding excuses to touch you, even in front of your wife, and her subconscious realizes that a lot of women wouldn't mind being your little slut, she may come around.

innominating · 2017-02-09T12:45:48+00:00

So, I have taken sex with wife from always missionary and always vanilla, to very rough, hair pulling, choking, face fucking, etc. When I started MRP, my wife would literally tell me to say please if I made a request in bed. Talk about killing the mood. I started by teasing her and calling her the "politeness princess" and worked up over time to more dominant sex. There has been plenty of sulking along the way as my wife has dealt wife feeling objectified after she had massive organisms, I assume. Her hind brain loves it, then her forebrain comes back online and she remembers the "you go girl" attitude and is conflicted.

I have a rule that if my wife doesn't make mouth sounds, neither do I. If she is sulking, I assume she is dealing with some shit I have no control over. In this case, your wife was sulking because of some shit you have no control over: how she felt.

Next time show your wife how appreciative you are of her submission. Cuddle her and tell her how much you liked the sex and how much you love that she is yours and whatever else you can think up (make up) at the time.

Also, there is good advice in other comments about how to buffer your commands a little. "Put you sexy ass in the air for me," etc. Reward the submission. Compliment her as you dominate.

The_Litz · 2017-02-09T10:54:37+00:00

Afterwards she was sulky so I asked what's up

That there. Discussing feelz. You probably knew why even before you asked.

You cannot go from Woody Allen to Jason Statham overnight. You have to ramp it up over time and actually be aware of how much you can push your previous limits.

Feeling degraded is a common complaint women have concerning doggy style, untill you become worth it and she then seeks it.

SampsonBrass · 2017-02-09T11:55:36+00:00

Did you specify the breed you wanted? Feelings buddy feelings. You've got to make her feel like she wants to be your bitch. Think about how you're going to do that next time.

RBuddDwyer · 2017-02-09T19:30:01+00:00

There is more to it than just "flip your ass over". If you are getting pussy on the regular, start looking into Sex God Method, and take it slow from there.

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ReddJive · 2017-02-09T12:45:00+00:00

THere's more going on that you aren't telling us or admitting to.

its either she isn't all that attracted to you and just wanted dick

or

she's right on that edge. some women get conflicted about being a slut for their man...or even the right man. Which is why the oak and comfort are critical things to pass. They want to know you want more from them then just being a good slut.

Reevaluate the whole day. See if you failed something along the way.

screechhater · 2017-02-10T02:23:46+00:00

Last night if you would have kept pounding for 20 minutes from the rear she could have had a cervix orgasm and your dick would be on the trophy stand..........

Remember when she complies, give her something to remember the compliance with.

Get some stamina, you are doing it right when she is backing up on you and she is in the "zone" completely letting go.........

InChargeMan · 2017-02-09T12:26:28+00:00

She sounds stressful...

nooomaam · 2017-02-11T00:52:19+00:00

Next time, Don't say anything. Just flip her over, work it out, and then pull her hips back onto yours so that she's on all fours.

But - to warm up to that - dance with her. lead her. Watch some youtube on the box step, and then randomly start dancing with her in the kitchen or whatever. Get her used to you leading.

shinola_ · 2017-02-09T13:40:52+00:00

I'd recommend not referring to doggy style or "get on all fours," especially if you've been a beta bitch for a long time.

Say "I want you from the back." It's less off putting if she's still kind of turned off by you on any level. As you progress and she feels sexy around you, tell her you want to see her ass. Just keep from letting her mind go to being fucked like a dog. You're not attractive enough for that yet.

stonepimpletilists · 2017-02-09T17:50:33+00:00

The sex happened, she psyched herself out of it.

I notice you fucked up a comfort test after the fact. Chicks love being degrade by high quality men, they don't like having the reputation of a whore though.

Once she feels comfortable, and good about being degraded, she'll be up for it more. Have to lead brother.

Having said that, this is a great place to start. Doggy style is about a 3/10 as far as degrading behaviour goes.

MuhTriggersGuise · 2017-02-09T20:30:06+00:00

It's either a shit test or a comfort test OP. What's degrading about getting on all fours? Did you say "get on all fours bitch", or say "I'm going to fuck you like an animal"? No? Then where's the degradation? It's a different sexual position. Whoopity doo. You need to be more sharp and able to understand shit tests and comfort tests when they come, instead of acting like it's some fucking mystery and come running here for an explanation.

Your response should've been "What exactly is degrading about a different sexual position" and her response would've clued you in more if it was a shit test or a comfort test. You did the wrong thing by reacting to her emotional state (IE entering her frame), and should not start trying to find hoops to jump through for her at the slightest vague hint of her emotional state changing. How is that maintaining frame?

midlifedick · 2017-02-09T23:58:27+00:00

This stuff has to be timed right, too. Do you know where she is in her cycle?

Timing and congruence. Was this out of the blue? Are you handling all your stuff outside the bedroom?

Early on I thought I would try spanking the wife's ass. It was a clumsy move, she was on top, I was not in control of the situation in or out of the bedroom. She said" don't do that". I took it as just another shit test and did it again. She got up and got in the shower. Oh well.

I'm in a different spot now, got most things on point including the muscles and attitude. Now she likes to wrestle. Literally wrestle. I guess she wants to feel the strength. Also, she moans when I spank her now. I use it sparingly and only when she is receptive of going a little rougher. I guage with how she responds to a firm wrist grab or fistfull of hair at the base of her head.

Work up to it slow, and make sure it's congruent with the whole package.

ppdthrowawai · 2017-02-10T15:25:04+00:00

There isn't enough information to tell you what really happened, but if I had to guess you probably accelerated 0 to 100 too fast. If she isn't highly converted or used to dominance on your part, she will take any out of character comments the wrong way.

Sounds like she doesn't know this is a healthy way to express your lust. She has to get her feet wet to the idea. Do you talk dirty with her? Probably the place to start if you aren't.

PS. Give her positive validation not negative. If you acknowledge the fact that she was butthurt over the whole thing, you are just validating that negative emotion that she should feel degraded. I would tell her it was hot, dirty, and you love her. Inquiring about her own emotional insecurity is just letting the thought fester longer and feel more true to her. If you say what I said, you are telling her it was sexual pleasing, its okay to be a little filthy in bed, and reinforcing that your feelings for her are positive after the whole experience. Keep her in your frame afterwards. You entered hers.

Hope you read this.

BluepillProfessor · 2017-02-10T01:05:03+00:00

she felt degraded when I told her to get on all fours.

She slut shamed herself. Best thing is to NOT give it any credence. If you do, she does. See how that works? Slap her ass. Reassure her that it is not degrading at all while telling her you are going to make her bark like a dog next time. Pet her on the head affectionately and tell her she is a good girl. If you believe it, aka 'hold frame' she will be get comfortable and believe it. We are not sure about a lot on MRP question day but we are pretty damn sure about that.

470_2_700_nm · 2017-02-09T15:56:01+00:00

This is my favourite subject line in a while.

Thanks.

Title	"Get on all fours" - completely backfired
Author	jimbosmith21
Upvotes	8
Comments	63
Date	February 9, 2017 6:44 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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