Is there nothing we can do?

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March 12, 2019

Companies in my city now advertise to charge women 20% less because of gender paygap. Things that were once rediculous become normal now.

My sister asks me now where all the good men are after shes finished with her feminist rants of why she does not find a job with her liberal arts degree. Shes 32 now and I believe she will never have children in her life. Sadly I think thats for the best.

Random white knight strangers called me "the last sexist of the university" in public after I asked my friend why she assumes that women and men have the same productivity in all careers.

Feminist bullshit literally destroys lifes. And no one dares to do anything against it. I can watch how my once beautiful country slowly drifts into feminist totalitarianism.

Most men become weak and support the feminine imperative. And the strong ones "just enjoy the decline". The only glimpse of hope is that the red pill becomes more popular even among normies.

So what can I do? Do I have to become even more depressed every day until I leave my home country? Or do we have to wait until incels stage a coup and call out the "the fourth Reich"?

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Title Is there nothing we can do?
Author urbanfoh
Upvotes 160
Comments 85
Date 12 March 2019 10:06 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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[–]GGrub8212 points213 points  (11 children) | Copy

You don't negotiate with terrorists. Words are women's weapons, facts are men's.

What we can do right now is quit arguing and stop giving undeserving women attention, validation, resources and commitment.

Instead of paying for some random thot's dates, gifts and plastic surgeries we should improve our own value, became as desirable as possible, fuck attractive and submissive girls and leave the feminist ugly bitches alone and miserable.

[–]alphabachelor24 points25 points  (1 child) | Copy


Focus on yourself and your mission.

Always be learning, lifting and making bank.

There is so much noise. Ignore it until you get to a position where you can change it.

Why whine about affirmative action in hiring when you can run your own business and hire based on merit, not gender.

[–]thanusall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

My only concern with this, is women aren’t around while I do this. So like I can work an myself for years, but if women don’t have the opportunity to be In my presence, well fuck.

[–]BusterVadge54 points55 points  (6 children) | Copy

fuck attractive and submissive girls and leave the feminist ugly bitches alone and miserable.

Some of the best sex I've had is with "powerful" feminist bitches with henpecked beta/omega boyfriends. Fuck them too, just don't LTR them.

[–]sadshark55 points56 points  (4 children) | Copy

Enjoy your rape accusations.

[–]Ill_mumble_that23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy

Not if they don't know who I am or where I live.

[–]nu121x15 points16 points  (1 child) | Copy

Or what drug you used to get her unconscious.

[–]ambidexia9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Bill cosby

[–]xddm26531 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Any girl can pull that. Maybe you should go incel

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


[–]OracleofFl9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

You don't negotiate with terrorists. Words are women's weapons, facts are men's.

great line!

[–]hazelstein1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

What we can do right now is quit arguing and stop giving undeserving women attention, validation, resources and commitment.


[–][deleted] 54 points55 points  (16 children) | Copy

Feminism has been good for ugly women and attractive men. It’s been bad for average men and pretty women.

It’s up to you whether you want to make it to the top 20%. Hit the gym. Dress better. Study and practice frame control.

[–]helterskelter19884 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy

Why is feminism good for attractive men?

[–]Rendem1226 points27 points  (4 children) | Copy

Because unchecked hypergamy means infinite pussy for the top ~20%

[–]ImNotSue4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

Never thought of it that way. Men who don't concede to a culture of extreme feminist-draped shit test bullshit end up seeming more attractive than those who cower and kowtow.
Edit: a grammatical typo

[–]Imperator_Red5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Never thought of it that way.

Then you are not familiar with red pill principals and shouldn't be answering questions. This sub is fucking cancer compared to the main.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The main isn’t much better filled with LARPers and fakes. That quarantine did its damage.

[–]ImNotSue0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for your concern over my familiarity and level of knowledge. I'm quite versed. Since you mentioned it, would you explain more about what you said about this sub compared to the main trp sub? Would be interested to hear what you think.

[–]urbanfoh[S] -3 points-2 points  (9 children) | Copy

It just makes it harder to climb the hierarcy if your not born under perfect circumstances. Your place in the hierarchy will be basically determined by your genetics and no longer by your effort.

[–]1rayounnes13 points14 points  (6 children) | Copy

I don't get what you mean. Are you saying game and abs and are genetic ?

[–]urbanfoh[S] 12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

Feminist politics will raise taxes on high earners (men) to support unattractive bitches. Or apparently will make men pay more for the same stuff.

Their goal seems to be to put men down in the social hierarchy and make it harder to climb it.

[–]mnsmon2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How does that keep you back from spending a few bucks a month for the gym? Add some time to spend in there and you have less to worry about the big and hard steps of the hierarchy you’re already climbing up

[–]nexther0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

They want society to become even less equal (in women’s favour), but disguise it as equality. Men are slowly being withdrawn opportunities, giving them to mediocre women instead.

[–]volvostupidshit-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy

They basically want to enslave men? I don't think that's the goal because that's already achieved.

[–]xddm26532 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hes a whiny boy who thinks he should be served pussy on a platter.

[–]xdrunkagainx10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's a defeatist attitude and bluepill as fuck.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy

Random white knight strangers called me "the last sexist of the university" in public after I asked my friend why she assumes that women and men have the same productivity in all careers.

Think as you like: behave as others. [One of the laws of power]

So what can I do?

Live your own life, be awesome, quit worrying about the bigger picture.

[–]reddit309 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

my solution is just be as masculine as possible. be a testosterone driven machine. embrace “toxic masculinity”. do all of the things defined as “toxic masculinity” such as hitting on girls all the time lol. lift. be as manly of a man you possible can be. feminine energy is everywhere you look. be a huge source of masculine energy. thats the only thing i can think of that we can do to fight back.

[–]Idontgetitboyz6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Agreed. This is what I am trying to practice every day. Pure masculinity. Or toxic as they say haha

[–]THOT_Analytica34 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy

Hard times create strong men,

Strong men create good times,

Good times create weak men,

Weak men create hard times.

[–]youcantstopmyzed3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

somewhere i read that

good/strong societies create weak men

weak men create weak societies

weak societies make strong men

strong men create strong societies

[–]0io-12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Times are changing. Look at the "Get Woke, Go Broke" trend. Feminism and the crap you're talking about is getting passe. People are sick of it.

Don't get depressed, obviously. Get in great shape and be in the top 10 or 20%, you'll do fine. The social trends are cyclical. Look at the free-love hippies of the 1960's. 20 Years later we had Reagan and the Soviet Union fell apart... these things come and go. I would bet money that in another 5 or 10 years the normies will be as sick of all this crap as you are, and things will be moving in another direction. Society will fall apart if people keep doing stupid things forever. Fix yourself, don't worry about the historical trend and the big picture. You can't fix the whole world, you can only fix yourself.

[–]BreedingColumbia21 points22 points  (6 children) | Copy

some time ago, I posted a thread here called "Those of us who are Enjoying the Decline" that some people liked, and some got triggered. my intention was to understand if my pro-"Enjoy the Decline" mindset was normal & common within the TRP community, or rare.

Needless to say, i'm still Enjoying the Decline. What this means is:

  • recognizing that the Modern West is World's greatest Whore in all history

  • and that there are two types of people in TRP: those who want to rescue the Whore (usually those who are politically active) and those who'd rather watch (with a mix of apathy & selfish pleasure) as the West declines, burns, and falls gradually over the decades.

remember: TRP is amoral. Yes, TRP helps us see why the West is fucked up. But contrary to what many on the alt-right may tell you, TRP never was about saving the Whore (the West). TRP is just about you. How do you choose to do your life? that's what TRP addresses.

so to the OP: now that you're lucky to be one of the few Western men to see how fucked up the West is, you have two choices.

  • you can either keep getting triggered by the fuckedup-ness.

  • or you can just watch it burn. While you take advantage/exploit it to your own benefit.

Each of these choices has important consequences.

Choose wisely.

I know I am.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Exactly. No need to get worked up over things that you can't really control as an individual.

[–]GGrub81 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As individuals we can't change the world and we're all aware of it.

I think what the "triggered" group really wants is create a political movement such as feminism in order to make the pendulum swing to the opposite direction once again.

[–]hazelstein2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Either Take Advantage of the Situation or Build yourself up enough to be a Leader of the Country and Put this bs to end.

[–]ultrasuperthrowaway0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Exploiting feminism for my own personal gain actually sounds like the best possible solution

I should sell a product or idea that is necessary for feminists

[–]BreedingColumbia0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I should sell a product or idea that is necessary for feminists

countless men and women have already done that. and become very successful at it.

if you believe you have the ambition & skills to do it, I encourage you to do so.

[–]thewobblywelder-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Beautiful words my friend. And my family and friends can’t understand my apathy towards politics, and now women. I literally just don’t give a fuck but love watching society hamster itself into complete oblivion. Even if WWIII happens. I know where I’ll be. Going my own way.

[–]BiscottiGeneral9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lmfao the last sexist of the university I can’t stop laughing

[–]Well_Sorted817322 points23 points  (2 children) | Copy

"I identify as a female and I demand my 20% discount or else I'm going to sue you for being transphobic."

[–]IvyExcess11 points12 points  (1 child) | Copy

This is the actual way to handle it at the register. Record it too. Wear a bad wig.

[–]haraishi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


[–]alphafili24 points25 points  (1 child) | Copy

Do something about it nigga. Ignore your sisters bullshit and carry on with your agenda, ignore society’s bullshit and carry on your agenda. Life is yours boi, but if you don’t believe it then you’ll be owned by life. Depressed because females invaded your mind? Get your shit together and go get jacked and be ready to always be on your attack. @alphafili OUT✌🏼

[–]TheBunk_TB1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unfortunately, I agree with you. Live a great life. You choose how you feel. Choose to be happy. Choose to be productive. Find others that didnt drink the koolaid.

[–]masterpiece004 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

What are YOU doing about it? other than come to social media and cry.

Did you challenge the white knight and stand up for yourself? Did you change his viewpoint?

[–]urbanfoh[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes I did challenge him. And that caused a somewhat big debate on a social media group of my university. It actually revealed that the silent majority was on my side.

[–]DatingTank2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pick your fights wisely

[–]Deathcon13372 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Civilisations rise and fall. We're no different. All you can do is focus on yourself.

Check out ThuleanPerspective on Youtube. He has some insightful points. Some may even be helpful.

[–]baeslick2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I love this post so much.

I agree with a lot of people in this sub and TRP. Not always, but there is enough overlap in every man's life where we can agree on certain talking points, and then the individual natures of our lives will color and the flavor the context of our individual situations.

We must understand one thing, as men. Our lives determine the lives of others. Ultimately, we are the ones who have to take charge and dominate our destiny. It is dependent on US to determine the future. If you want the future to change, first you must change yourself.

To answer your question, yes, there is something you can do. You can become a man. A man that other women want and other men look up to. It is the only to save our society from the degeneration of social structure. I am a social liberal, however I am disgusted at what the left is doing to modern politics and the social space. I love entertainment, however I am disgusted at the pseudo-feminist constructed narrative that is plaguing popular culture, and I'm glad examples like Captain Marvel are getting their just desserts. Black Panther was an example of popular culture done right and effecting positive change, and we can do the same as men without listening to the toxic mass media, their product sucks. Make a better product, if you build it they will come.

I am going to PM you OP, I would very much like to answer your question, and any other questions you would like answered. Peace

[–]urbanfoh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you

[–]ghosts_of_me2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Find a market gap and figure out how to sell shit to feminists then laugh all the way to the bank. This could be your mission.

[–]Endorsed ContributorAuvergnat2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There’s nothing you can do to prevent the decline apart from acting at your insignificantly small level, which would come at great personal risk, and for a 0% chance of being successful.

It’s like you’re a small employee of Lehman Brothers in 2007 who understood the scale of the crisis ahead. If you’re invested in the company as it is and can’t picture your place in a different job, you would try desperately to inform your hierarchy and they will laugh at you at first and then may fire you if you insist. The other option is to realise any crisis is an opportunity for any individual who can foresee it and plan in consequence. Some people made a little fortune from the crisis: the untouchable people at the very top, and the little men who had awoken in time and strategised their way out. Everyone else lost badly, including those who saw it coming and did nothing else but trying to prevent the catastrophe.

Your personal emotional investment in that “old world” is what holds you back. Time they are a changing. They always did, always will. And those who can’t accept it and act in consequence to transition safely into the new worlds will always be the great losers.

[–]dtyler861 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I love that I was circumcised without my consent, by genetics I’m likely to die significantly younger than a woman, yet women act like the pay gap that exists somewhere not at their company is justification to shit on men and act entitled to discounts like this. What a joke.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I don't mind being circumcised

[–]dtyler862 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t mind it either. I also don’t mind that men were the preferred gender selected to be drafted in the Vietnam war, it makes sense. It seems that these days women complain about absolutely every possible inequality when so many of us have had literal parts of our penises cut off and everybody just ignores it like it’s not a totally fucked up archaic practice that serves literally no purpose, but god forbid we call “gingerbread persons” gingerbread man

[–]DatingTank1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you weren't, I can say with 99,99% guarantee, that you would not decide to get a circumcision, just for the heck of it.

That said, rock on, no matter what kind of penis you have.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Well I will prob convert to Judaism so I'll have to eventually. It would've been interesting being uncircumcised definitely but it's not something I think about too much

[–]LilLoserFreny1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I feel you bruh, but your sanity don’t worry about it too much. Empires come and go and history repeats itself. What you are seeing is the end of United States “ Empire “. Enjoy you’re life and don’t worry about things you can not change.

[–]AstuteBlackMan1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Enjoy the decline. In order for some real change to occur where women actually rely on men a huge catastrophe needs to occur. Bringing us back to hunter gatherer societies. Women will soon realize they need to support men and take care of the kids, men who are full on soy will realize they need to either shape up or they wont survive and all the red pill alphas will thrive knowing they can eat food and bang tons of bitches.

But. That's not gonna happen so enjoy the decline

[–]HastaPronto901 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You are from Germany, right? :D Irgendwie merkt man das, nicht negativ gemeint. I understand you completely, the current situation of our country is critical. "They" establish an opinion and conviction doctrine without having a political or social majority for it.

[–]urbanfoh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah I am. I left a few hints in the text :)

Thats the way I feel. And it is not even politics mainly. Its former indoctrinated students working in HR and marketing that seem to push that agenda.

[–]red_matrix1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Enjoy the decline, that’s all you can do. I used to care, but not anymore. The west is fucked and the east is on its way down. Lift weights, keep a fwb or two, retire as early as possible, contribute nothing to modern society.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Enjoy the decline. You can't fix it. I can't fix it. Let it collapse and rebuild. Don't waste more energy on it than you have to. There are still some good women out there that will stick with you thick or thin. That is if you're a strong alpha type, at least to her.

Know what you want and go get it. Don't take people's bullshit. Stop trying to convince other people they are destroying themselves. Time will be their teacher.

[–]sandal_on0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You need a minority like 10% with strength and power to control a society to bend its will. There's no 10% to rescue the society (by controlling it) thus there's nothing really to do other than help the weak.

[–]helaughsinhidden0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Companies in my city now advertise to charge women 20% less because of gender paygap.

That was a promotion at a New York Bar, so it's about time they've paid their own tab. I'm sure it was a great success too. Kind of like "ladies night" with the smell of cat piss instead of post-wall desperation.

[–]Bdsmthrowaway01010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Written like a true sperg.

Nobody who is slaying life is as bitter and angry as you.

[–]newlifeRP0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Man, this is Atlas Shrugged becoming reality.

[–]fshnkut0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Make money.

[–]thanusall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You aren’t here to save the west bro. You were born into this.

It’s not your fault or responsibility. You just want to help, because we are good men, and that’s what you do.

How do you focus something so fucked You cant even see the cause of the problem?

You do you, continue to learn so you can adapt you ideology around reality, and figure out where your gonna make your niche

It’s the same advice people keep giving me

[–]maverick97590 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Workout, hold frame, become the top notch guy and ENJOY THE FUCKIN DECLINE.

[–]McVaghunter-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't see myself as part of a group, I don't care what happens to society, I don't waste time arguing with women about politics or anything else for that matter, I take advantage of the pussyfication of males that makes me stand out as a proper man allowing me to climb the ladder of hypergamy and enjoy as much teenage pussy as I want, never getting married and never having a daughter so what the fuck do I care.

Just enjoy the decline; instead of bitching about how bad things are today, be grateful you're not born 50 years from now, because I can assure you that "20% less" crap is just the start. Who knows, 100 years from now it might even become illegal to be a man or wear men clothes, you're either a female, forced from a young age to be a transgender female or killed at birth lol

[–]yungplayz-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Incels won't do shit because endless wining instead of actions is what put them where they at in the first place.

Also ain't nobody in their clear mind jumping on the bandwagon with someone who wanna slay or slave literally half of the population

[–]double_red-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just let the forthcoming Islamist insurgence take care of the feminists and soyboys. It won't be long until they beg for toxic masculinity to reemerge and protect their sorry asses from impalement.

[–]cudder170 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I mean they’re going to come for us too tho

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

College is the breeding ground of socialism and feminism and a lot of other things that are fucking up the status quo.

[–]Imperator_Red-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

No one here is answering his question - merely repeating the same mantras.

OP, unfortunately as I see things, the answer is no, there is nothing that we can do. I simply do not see any reasonable way to achieve what many of us want through political means. The west is too far gone.

I hope I am wrong, but again, I just do not see a path forward for any kind of "red pill political movement."

[–]urbanfoh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I guess large scale red pill politics would be to not become commited to a country and be always ready to leave.

But who is seriously ready for that?

[–]xdrunkagainx-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy

MGTOW is the answer. Build your own life your way and don't sponsor thots or bluepills

[–]thanusall1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy


People think of the faggots that run from pussy when they hear mgtow.

Mgtow is almost the better form of red pill when you get into it.

The game is fucked, and no matter what you get used. You can go your own way mentally, and still bang hoes

[–]xdrunkagainx0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

I like banging something new as much as the next guy but it's not all there is to life. I lift regularly, dress good, focus on being my best, and apply the redpill to everything I do. But constantly chasing girls is still being a thirsty simp, even if you have access on demand.

[–]thanusall0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy


It’s unfulfilling to be consumed in game 24/7.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Nothing wrong with a liberal arts degree. Especially ironic coming from someone who can't spell 'ridiculous'.

Take a look at yourself in the mirror before you rant about "female totalitarianism", which doesn't even make sense. No one is out to get you, so stop making excuses and whining like a baby.

[–]urbanfoh[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

You quoted me wrong

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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