Woman on r/askreddit talks about her relationship with an alpha, hamsters away. "I slept with him the first time we met...about 2 hours after meeting him. He didn't hold me down and force me. But I remember feeling so dirty and awful about it. I think it could be considered date-rape."

TheSKSpecial · 2014-05-14T21:34:02+00:00

Gotta love how she's been with this guy almost 5 years and still manages to blame this sub which has only been around...2?

TRP: traversing time and space to ruin relationships. /s

EDIT: Dat Dark Triad game, tho.

Zackcid · 2014-05-14T23:06:39+00:00

But I remember feeling so dirty and awful about it. I think it could be considered date-rape.

For a long time, I've wondered what this feeling women often got after quick sex. Why was it that they'd feel dirty after sex. And why would they feel dirty and awful about it anyway, since they engaged in it consensually and whatnot? Well, something happened in my life a couple years ago that finally allowed me to empathize with this feeling. I'm convinced that my experience is the male equivalent to women feeling dirty after sex.

I was at the gym. I somehow got into an interaction with this short, 45+ year old woman. Being the chump that I was, I was just happy with getting the IOIs she was sending me and practicing kino on her. The focus then got away from gym-related topics and we began talking about life, politics, relationships, etc.

This shit dragged on for over Two hours. Just me and her, face-to-face talking about shit I barely cared about. I could tell she loved talking about her neighbors crazy relationship and whatnot. I eventually looked at the time and we parted ways.

For the next couple days, I felt disgusted with myself. I regretted it all. I felt dirty with myself, like I had been taken advantage of by a short, ugly troll. I had wasted 2 precious hours of my life on some old hag, talking about shit that she enjoyed.....for free!

I felt like a time-hoe. I gave her my time for free and I felt dirty about it afterwards. I hated it. And this is probably how these women feel after giving away sex early, for free. They only wish they woulda gained more from it. They (and I) felt exploited because they feel the other party gained more out of it than themselves.

needsomehelp3211 · 2014-05-14T21:19:56+00:00

Two take-home points here.

1: False accusations of rape aren't just the ramblings of some tinfoil hat on r/mensrights, they actually happen. Just look at how this chick defined rape. Make sure to protect yourself from such accusations. Have a good alibi. Be prepared to fight in court. It can happen to you.

2: Over 2,000 people upvoted this shit. This is a pretty good indicator of how many omega males there are squatting on the default subs.

Mikesapien · 2014-05-15T04:15:01+00:00

Consider some of the comments:

"So you dated the guy who invented the red pill..."

or

"Certainly sounds like a Redpiller."

or

"I've only recently learned about theredpill but that to me seems like it should be an instant deal breaker. Any dude who isn't immature or a fucking psycho shouldn't even entertain those sorts of ideas."

or

">TheRedPill

Jesus. I'm so sorry."

or

"Being an asshole, having double standards, being obsessed with sex, blaming everything on women -- this is basically their manifesto."

Bask in it, boys.

There's no such thing as bad publicity.

gingervitis16 · 2014-05-14T22:30:44+00:00

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TRPsubmitter · 2014-05-14T21:57:58+00:00

Here is the relevant passage on her supposed "date rape".

I have bolded important parts.

In fact, I think it could kind of be considered date-rape. I don't know. I said no multiple times but he kept persisting and eventually, we were having sex....It was the absolute only thing on his mind, despite me saying I was interested in a relationship like that. It became a problem later on. I was required to have sex with him EVERY single time we saw each other. I had a fairly high sex drive but shit, sometimes you have a stomach ache or just don't feel like it or you're on your period and don't enjoy period sex! Did that matter? Nope. He'd berate me and kick me out of his house if we didn't have sex.

This is the frame you want to have, gentlemen. Disregard her obvious biased tone.

Here, you have a guy who offered ONE reality. That reality is sex when he wants it, how it wants it. Everytime. If she doesn't like, then she can leave. No one is making her stay. Just because she feels she has to have sex to satisfy him doesn't mean she had to have sex; she could simply not satisfy him and be on her way. She knew where the door was.

He made the act of satisfying him so rewarding to her, she would forsake her own desires for his.

The bottomline: This girl made her own decisions to stick with the guy, for whatever reason (sex, alpha fucks, etc).

However, she prefers to be a "victim", because that allows her to shirk her responsibility. What women like her dont' realize though is that by blaming the man for her OWN actions, she also indirectly sets up herself (as well as all women) in a poor position as weaklings because it means she (and no woman) is strong enough to walk away. What a horrible reality to truly believe a man "with only 2 sexual partners" can have that much power over you. This could all be alleviated if she would stop playing the victim card, state what she wants from the guy, and then ACTS on it.

jcrpta · 2014-05-14T21:41:52+00:00

This is a 22 year old girl that says these things. She talks about how he didn't know what "real sex" was and how manipulative he was. How many men has she known (don't answer that)? She's 22. When I was 22 I thought I knew a lot about the world too. Man, was I wrong.

In her defense, I've met a lot of women that rationalize after the fact to absolve them of their part in the failure of the relationship. Few women ever see all they've done to destroy the relationships they were in.

MisterMisogyny · 2014-05-14T22:28:18+00:00

I didnt make it past her 1st point. She's obviously a cunt.

The age thing. 17 and 23? I'm not saying it can't work and be healthy but this dude was thrilled to have a little 17 year old. Mind you, I look about 15 now, so at 17 I looked like a damn child. He loved it. Sure some guys are into the petite young looking thing but he was just obsessed with the idea of me being so young. When we had sex, he'd always ask me my age and get off at me being so young. Creepy.

OMG! This guy that I was fucking actually found me attractive! What a fucking pervert!

galt88 · 2014-05-14T21:59:53+00:00

Just because they both start with an r doesn't mean regret and rape are the same thing.

Invalidity · 2014-05-14T22:01:41+00:00

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jethreezy · 2014-05-15T03:50:35+00:00

In her reply to a comment from her original comment:

He had said something really mean to me. I don't remember specifically, something about how I was so disgusting that he only wanted to fuck me in the dark. In front of his friends.

So she's not attractive, which was probably why the dude didn't give a fuck, and definitely explains why he didn't want to meet her friends/family, and didn't want her to meet his. He knew he was dining from the gutter.

AnotherLostCause · 2014-05-14T23:50:56+00:00

Regret=Rape

Really these people shouldn't be allowed to vote.

2014-05-15T00:05:03+00:00

Yeah so I got sucked into this one and down voted into oblivion this morning. Saw it and called out the bullshit about her having sex within 2 hours of meeting this obviously fucked up fella. The people couldn't understand where I wasn't condoning rape even though I clearly stated multiple times abuse and rape aren't tolerable. She let him talk her into sex. That is in no way rape. She can on her own free will not go home with the guy, and -if she sees they aren't looking for the same thing - leave. People don't understand she started this whole thing by giving it up and let it continue by allowing some psychopath to abuse her. It's a shame my poor karma was killed by the blind folks.

FortunateBum · 2014-05-14T22:02:24+00:00

Wow. I just want to put this into perspective. They broke up because the woman's bf forced it:

Finally he did talk to me and wanted to meet up and talk about things/get back together. I was all for it, but my brother found out when I was about to leave the house and said absolutely fucking not. He kept threatening to call the cops on my BF for assault (he'd given me a black eye when he hit me on our trip). I freaked out and ended up not going to meet up with him.

2014-05-14T22:27:00+00:00

Definitely not alpha.....crafted online responses ? Really...nope

Ironhigh · 2014-05-14T23:10:53+00:00

Some years ago rape was only when you used brute force to make sex with someone that doesn't want it ,then they made sexual coercion also a form of rape because it seemed reasonable, now you don't even need to force the other person to have sex with your to be rape.

She was drunk?Rape.

She regretted the sex?Rape.

In fact, she doesn't even need to have sex with you to claim that you raped her, even if the police doesn't get involved your personal life is already harmed beyond repair.

For the first world feminists getting snatched by a criminal in the streets, beaten and being physically forced into sex while trying to resist with all you can, is virtually the same thing as regretting sex in the next day.

The rape culture hysteria train has no brakes.

isthatyourdaughter · 2014-05-14T21:55:59+00:00

Yeah, guy doesn't sound like he reached his acceptance phase at all...LOL

He sounds like a dipshit off his meds, quite frankly. Dark Triad ought to be the spice, not the sole ingredient.

JP_Whoregan · 2014-05-15T13:34:10+00:00

This thread has devolved into a clusterfuck of bullshit.

Mods?

Joshuas6x · 2014-05-15T11:24:14+00:00

What the fuck did I just read?

Menadian · 2014-05-15T12:37:30+00:00

Holy fuck this huy has some issues... but she ain't to smart either. She is a total victim in her mind and not very objective.

CaptainDerpknocker · 2014-05-15T13:32:08+00:00

Nothing could be less red pill than the guy in this story. I'm sure some of this story is exaggerated but you can tell he's a little bitch. The fact that she stayed with him certainly speaks to some unfortunate truths about the behavior of women, but storming around a restaurant complaining because you can't get a table (I think that part was probably true) speaks to a total lack of frame. Blaming her for him not turning her on. Bitch move. If you have to be this way to get pussy then why even bother. That she stayed with him is fucking pathetic but it's not like a 17 year old virgin knows any better. Christ, there are some pituful, fucked up people in this world.

hazyjen · 2014-05-15T00:28:25+00:00

False rape accusations are just plain horrible and wrong. However, I think that there is A LOT that goes on in the mind of a rape victim that doesn't necessarily make sense to the outside world. I'm not saying she definitely was or was not raped. However, some of her wordage seems timid/confused/dismissive/unsure...During a rape, some victims are unable to even move. She says that she said "no" repeatedly, and that he kept persisting. With all due respect, putting so much hate on one person (who may or may not have been raped) doesn't do a lot for either side. We don't know what she truly experienced, and the fact is that if she was raped, this can show in a lot of different ways. Every rape victim acts differently, and some will literally not admit that what happened was rape until later (weeks, months, etc). Plus, there was a lot of emotional manipulation/abuse in play with this guy. That can really twist a person into a weird/confused/unsure place, making that person very vulnerable (and more susceptible to coercive tactics, abuse, dominance). Are we going to tell a person just coming to terms with their child abuse that they were just "convincing themselves of it" because they didn't immediately process those feelings? Must her story be fake unless she makes an immediate, clear, succinct statement right after the rape (or lack there of)? No one can really know what happened to this woman except her and the man that she had the experience with. I just think that this victim blaming (because if she wasn't a victim of rape, she was at least a victim of A LOT of emotional abuse) isn't constructive.

DarkCircle · 2014-05-14T21:44:58+00:00

Here is the thing. I think in some false rape allegations, the woman has actually hamstered herself in to actually believing she was raped. Instead of facing the truth that she put out easily, she just warps reality to be whatever she thinks it is. There is bad emotion present and like a live grenade, she would rather toss it into an innocent mans lap then deal with herself.

What is sad is that this guy does sound like a real psychopathic jerk, but she can't get enough. Erin Pizzey said that for some women, they vow never to go back, but once they hear his voice, it is like the pied piper. She just cannot resist and they return till he ends up killing her.

The only reason they broke up was because after giving her a black eye he dumped her. She was still ready to go back until her brother put a stop to it.

TheSKSpecial · 2014-05-15T20:00:22+00:00

Yo I got a girl-friend (I'm a guy) who is in a relationship like this. The guys completely demeaning, easily angered, and completely paranoid. I'm in a fraternity and she is a sweetheart (i.e. she's been good friends with everyone here for years and it is platonic). He doesn't even let her come over unless he is coming over because he doesn't trust that she isn't going to just sleep with everyone here. Her roommates fucking hate the guy because he gets so angry and has no control. Fuck knows why she stays with this abusive piece of shit, but anyways what the fuck do you say/do to get her out. We've already established that if he ever threatens or hits her again we will beat him to a pulp. (we are pretty sure he has; she won't admit it of course but her roommates have heard what sounds like it). She acts like he needs protecting because he is emotionally needy or some shit; he says if she leaves him he will kill himself even though we all know he will hurt her long before he will ever hurt himself. She is always saying shit like "you don't know him," "he's the only one who actually cares about me," "he just has his own problem he really loves me." She is madly in love with a piece of shit. Is there anything we can do for her besides just being there and making sure she is safe?

A typical white knight trying to 'save' a woman from her bad-boy boyfriend. White knight says bad-boy has no control then says the same bad-boy controls the girl's behaviour and keeps the whoring on a tight leash. This is textbook stuff. Saw this in the comments, just had to point it out. One of those things that make you realize TRP is uncannily spot-on.

2014-05-15T20:49:48+00:00

In response to all the posts about hamstering, at work recently my female boss said HI really emphatically but I just nodded my head and kept walking because I was super hung over. I knew she would get even. The next day I was in trouble for some made-up bullshit.I held frame well. Women can be so petty and vengeful for seemingly tiny slights. Of course a day later she was super nice again. I tend to avoid women these days.

2014-05-15T23:28:03+00:00

If you cherry picked the right incidents, anyone could be made to look evil. Also, she is probably lying.

reptiliansentinel · 2014-05-17T11:56:41+00:00

Ok yeah she's a crazy dumb bitch, but that dude is in no way an alpha. * He punched a woman. Fuck that noise.
* They get in a fight and he sissies off and drives home in a temper tantrum.

This dude sounds like an abusive cocksucker, not an alpha. He's someone who has such low self-esteem that he preys upon others to boost his own. Classic wannabe behavior.

IGoldSrsLinks · 2014-05-15T01:55:33+00:00

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Ill_mumble_that · 2014-05-15T03:43:39+00:00

The man in this story is a SOLID example of redpill frame. He set the rules, he set the tone, he set the conditions of the relationship. If she didn't want to accept any of that she was free to leave at any time. He did not hold her down, as she says so herself. But instead, she did accept it. It's on her. Doesn't matter if she was 17 when it started, that's close enough to 18 and in some places 16 is considered legal. Ignorance is a very poor excuse, try using it the next time you get pulled over for running a red light.

IGoldSrsLinks · 2014-05-15T05:52:03+00:00

Alpha.
Pressures a 17 year old Virgin 6 years younger to fuck within 2 hours of hanging.

Pick one.

New_Horiz0ns · 2014-05-15T11:09:25+00:00

Why she took all the "abuse"?

Bitches like to be put in their place. They get uncontrollable tingles when you tell her to shut her mouth.

Why didn't she leave?

She never intended to leave. This guy was the winner she always wanted. She loved him and all the discipline. You think she even though about cheating during the whole relationship? Never. This guy was a psycho, dark triad, motherfucker and she would never leave.

I wish I could be like this guy. But my mindset is set dead straight on nice guy. Actually my behavior is nice guy, my thinking is RP. I know the shit I need to do, but sometimes its hard to discipline a bitch you like. Psycho's get women, but I draw the line at punching a bitch.

If you have to resort to your last card, your ability to cause physical harm to discipline a bitch then your mind game is not good enough. You want her to be nervous and scared (she might say something stupid etc) but not because you will punch her. Consequences must come in the form of my behavior towards her not in physical harm.

LerbiTRP · 2014-05-15T13:42:58+00:00

Soo many white knights.

flatox · 2014-05-14T21:58:34+00:00

This makes me so angry.

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