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Alabama bill would criminalize false rape accusations

by SouloftheVoid | May 09, 2019 | TheRedPill

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Title Alabama bill would criminalize false rape accusations
Author SouloftheVoid
Upvotes 1234
Comments 110
Date 09 May 2019 03:27 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]BuzzLightGear321 1 points [recovered]  (26 children) | Copy

“It’s not solving a new problem,” Connolly said. “It is a problem if someone makes a false report, and that’s rare.

Murder is rare yet it's still illegal. WTF is this chick smoking? It won't stop anyone from reporting rape but people that are lying about it. Innocent until proven guilty is still a legal principle (for now).

[–]SouloftheVoid[S] 178 points179 points  (13 children) | Copy

They don't want to give up the female privilege of being able to destroy a man's life with a few words.

[–]BuzzLightGear321 1 points [recovered]  (12 children) | Copy

Yup, the same reason they are against paternity testing at birth, forcing a man to continue child support for a child that's not his after so many years, lifetime alimony, default custody to the woman, no research funding into male birth control or outright blocking it by FDA, higher taxes on men to pay for social programs that benefit women, lying about abuse to throw men in jail, etc etc etc.

God I'm never getting married.

[–]NorthEasternNomad36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nope. Dont. It's a fucking trap.

[–]AwakenedSovereign37 points38 points  (2 children) | Copy

Every wedding ive been too has been like watching livestock led to the slaughterhouse. The place settings and celebration serve the same purpose as blinders and massages before the kill.

And then you hear from some senile aunt how the bride fucked the best man night before and THAT'S why the groom got drunk and picked a fight.

That dumb cunt then let himself get browbeat into not seeking an annullment.

I just.. don't get it

[–]_Icarus_Reborn_9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy

That seems oddly specific.

Who hurt you? /s

[–]AwakenedSovereign6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I've only been to a handful but that one stands out because of the insider knowledge.

"Not all weddings!" /s

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy

All of these things are designed with one purpose in mind: to offload the burden of the female parasite (and her thug-spawn) onto a man as to keep the welfare budget relatively under control. Monogamy and strict enforcement of both parties kept this problem in check a few generations prior, but feminism fought to unleash female hypergamy and offload the costs on men or the government (ie male tax dollars).

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy

God I'm never getting married

Marriage is a test of your confidence and intelligence. Get married and you are defacto a stupid loser, and therefore will have to pay the woman, lawyers and the government for your stupidity.

Confidence, intelligent and attractive men don't have to pay for sex and don't have to get married, so they don't.

[–]Endorsed ContributorrebuildingMyself5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Modern marriage is failing the biggest shit-test of your life, sadly.

[–]8380atgmaildotcom2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Unless she got family money

[–]escapethesolarsystem8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

Or just don't get married if you live in America (or the west).

[–]jcorye13 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

In theory, that's for the kid, not for the woman.

[–]geo_gan79 points80 points  (11 children) | Copy

The problem with a lot of women though is they have a concept of “it was real to me” or “it felt real” or “I thought it was real”. Anyone see the massive scandal on British tv last year on a reality show where this psycho bitch accused a man of assaulting her and wanted him kicked out and nearly destroyed his career until they found a camera angle showing the “assault”. When they confronted her afterwards all she said was “it was real to me at the time” Absolutely no remorse whatsoever shown by her. And no apology. And this was her being caught out on live national television! What chance does the average Joe on a her word against his stand? Them bitches are master manipulators and liars. It is trained into then from teenage years or younger.

[–]throwlaca63 points64 points  (7 children) | Copy

I won a false harassment case against a woman, but the judge don't allows me to file for damages because 'The girl really though it was true, there was no malice'. Are you fucking kidding me. What about my destroyed life?

[–]escapethesolarsystem22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

At least you won, many men don't even get that. But still the second part, that really sucks - more female privilege right there. Sorry to hear it.

[–]KewlThanks22 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not a lawyer, but talk to some lawyers, bro.

Fuck what she said, you can appeal to a new judge, and plenty of lawyers and ambulance chasers would take your case for free I imagine.

Get yours, fuck that.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

but the judge don't allows me to file for damages because 'The girl really though it was true, there was no malice'

The real reason is "because female".

Female privilege is endless in our society, sorry this happened to you.

[–]BuzzLightGear321 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Blue pill cucks destory society. The world needs TRP more now than ever before. Treating women like children with the rights as a adult is hurting them too. Judge needs to step down and read the sidebar.

[–]Hjalmbere2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Sorry bro, instant pussy pass.

[–]Mr_Mandingo930 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

even when their wrong, their not wrong...

[–]BuzzLightGear321 1 points [recovered]  (2 children) | Copy

Good argument made to have many women locked up in a mental institution, they literally are insane.

[–]geo_gan4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yes. That particular one on the tv show was a tv actress and after she did it many people who previously worked with her said yes she did stuff like this before, she has a history of it. She was crazy and dangerous.

[–]PrimeMinisterOfSheep171 points172 points  (27 children) | Copy

Something like this has been long overdue.

According to a 2010 study by the University of Massachusetts between two and 10 percent of rape allegations are proven false.

The reality is likely much worse.

[–]Marketing_Baboon85 points86 points  (0 children) | Copy

Given that around 80% of cases aren't proven one way or the other, it's reasonable to suspect that's the case.

[–]Delta_06625 points26 points  (5 children) | Copy

Please help me find the source on this. I would love to have this for my jackass friend who says they are rare and not ba issue.

[–]modSlyGradient[M] 23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy

[–]redpill772 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Nice. Very small scale though.

[–]1NathanHollister13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

Remember, that's just the ones that are PROVEN false. Most are thrown out due to no evidence (I.E., they are false but cant be proven false)

[–]WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

are proven false.

And this is just proven. Hopefully there's no statute of limitations on this like for the crimes that are being falsified. Men like these deserve justice in a real way.

[–]something_thoughtful10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

Didn't the FBI do an investigation and found it was 40% false? I can't remember the source but I'll try to find it.

[–]Metal_Charizard5 points6 points  (4 children) | Copy

That sounds way too steep, honestly. I don’t think there is any evidence supporting that prevalent a rate of proven falsity among accusations. Please let me know if you do find the source.

[–]something_thoughtful10 points11 points  (2 children) | Copy

[–]greenlittleman4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I could find this same research in wiki on "false rape" page. The thing is - there is no 40% of cases what "proven false", but 40% cases what were cancelled due to lack of any evidence. In sexual assault reports they could be "proven false" only if a woman herself acknowledge it or a man have had some solid evidence like video recording.

edit.
No, it seems in this research they just used polygraph until account of events matched. Which prevented most people from lying to the police.

[–]good_guy_submitter2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Of course, why would they be rare if there are no consequences.

[–]xddm26532 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

There is not going to be a source, most cases go away with neither side being able to prove anything.

[–]escapethesolarsystem8 points9 points  (6 children) | Copy

It's actually something more like 40%. I read another more comprehensive study but for the life of me I can't remember where...

[–]steini19043 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

There was also a case study of the Bavarian police. Was called something like "Vergewaltigung und sexuelle Notigung in Bayern" from 2005. If I remember correctly, it placed the number of likely false reports as high as >60%.

Seems like the US got a better deal...

[–]greenlittleman2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Just checked it out on wiki. It was 40% because police used polygraph and asked both sides until their account of events matched. This way it was "proved". In all other studies case would be "proven false" only if either victim acknowledged it or if there was some solid evidence like video recording.

[–]adirp 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Nope. Read the study ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8135653 ). It specifically states:

The investigation of all rape complaints always involves a serious offer to polygraph the complainants and the suspects. Additionally, for a declaration of false charge to be made, the complainant must admit the rape charge is false. The police department will not declare a rape charge as false when the complainant, for whatever reason, fails to pursue the charge or cooperate on the case, regardless of how much doubt the police may have regarding the validity of the charge. In short, these cases are declared false only because the complainant admitted they are false.

The polygraph was NOT used to categorize the accusations as false/true. The determining factor was an admission from the complainant. The false reporting rate they found: 41% (45 out of 109).

While there are some issues with sampling and questions about whether the small community is representative of the US population today, I would argue in today's culture of hysteria the false reporting rate is either very close or even higher that this.

[–]greenlittleman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Check other researches on wiki. Almost all of them tell same number - 20-30%. I assume what 40% is real percentage though, as system is far from being perfect. So this is just one of studies. What really terrible is what some other studies could tell you % as low as 2% - it means A LOT of innocent men were send to prisons.

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yes, because this is proven false.

There are a whole load more that can't be proven.

[–]Senior Endorsed Contributormax_peenor2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

are proven false.

Note the careful wording. Proven false. It isn't the job of the accused to prove the accusations false. It's the job of the accusor to prove them them true. This is fundimental concept in the American Constitution and anyoner that disagrees with it borders on being a traitor.

Also they get very loose with the definition of allegation. They use actually criminal cases when they want a number like above. They use just merely someone saying something, aything when they are trying to get the three-in-four statistics.

In otherwords, it's all deliberate bullshit.

[–]whuttupfoo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Also the definition of rape is actually changing so that's another one to think of.

[–]Jack__43124 points125 points  (7 children) | Copy

false rape accusations should have already been criminalised years ago

[–]geo_gan31 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy

The excuse I hear being barked from front women from “rape crisis centres” on this country is that it would “deter legitimate cases from coming forward” (out of fear of themselves being prosecuted)

[–]vicious_armbar 1 points [recovered]  (1 child) | Copy

Awww. The poor dears are worried about being falsely accused of a crime? Welcome to my world!

[–]geo_gan30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s women for you. Always me, myself and I

[–]Senior EndorsedMattyAnon13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy

The excuse I hear being barked from front women from “rape crisis centres” on this country is that it would “deter legitimate cases from coming forward” (out of fear of themselves being prosecuted)

The reality behind this position is simply "prioritise women over men".

If I make a false claim of theft, murder, assault, literally anything else - there is no doubt that I should be prosecuted.

The only time you hear "it would prevent real victims coming forward" is for rape and sexual assault, and the only reason you hear it is that this position benefits women.

[–]rpm1234517 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Babylon figured it out - false accusation punishment should be equal to the punishment for the falsely alleged crime

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

woah, that is brutal. It is hell of a deterrent for people thinking of acting in such unscrupulous ways.

[–]SouloftheVoid[S] 34 points35 points  (0 children) | Copy

Better late than never I guess, assuming it passes.

[–]-Maksim-78 points79 points  (4 children) | Copy

Who’d have thought it would be fuckin Alabama being positively progressive lol

[–]1papunigga03132 points33 points  (3 children) | Copy

Alabama is more red pilled than most states.

[–]ogkushinjapan23 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

Only in terms of keeping women in check. But most dudes there really let themselves go when they found the “one”.

[–]1papunigga0316 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is a universal truth. You have to be somewhat knowledgeable about the red pill to see through this lie.

[–]Sparky15931 points32 points  (8 children) | Copy

I posted this on that TwoX feminist subreddit, so go check it out if you want to see some female shilling later

[–]SouloftheVoid[S] 26 points27 points  (3 children) | Copy

I bet they just banned you for doing so.

[–]Sparky15929 points30 points  (2 children) | Copy

I marked it as "NSFW" so that way it can be looked at as a "trigger warning", and didn't X-post from TRP

Honestly, I'm more surprised that they haven't auto-banned me for being subbed to TRP

[–]hrm08941 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Did you delete it or did they remove it?

[–]throwlaca15 points16 points  (2 children) | Copy

Apart from the typical feminist savagery and ignorance, there is a very good post on that site that argues that you cannot criminalize false accusation because its hard to prove a negative. Most false rape accusations are actually 'lack of evidence' accusations, not really false. Unless the false accuser is caught on camera or she confess that it was a lie, it would be very difficult to prove that an accusation is actually false.

[–]SouloftheVoid[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Often times they do, or the accused has an airtight alibi during the alleged "rape".

[–]KewlThanks9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Okay, so those women have nothing to fear.

It's actively false ones we want to criminalise.

Like when we find texts that conspire to accuse him, you go to prison. Simple:)

[–]BlueFreedom42023 points24 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's not false rape claims that are the big problem, it's the definition of rape has been made so broad.

[–]BuppBuppBupp11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

he stared at me in a funny way. EYE RAPE! EYE RAPE! EYE RAPE!

[–]FeniZio9424 points25 points  (8 children) | Copy

Finally...one college slut who I had a one night stand with told everyone I tried raping her because I wouldn’t be her boyfriend. Another “female friend” tried doing the exact same thing Luckily I always overthink stuff and never delete my messages unless it’s been years (might even begin saving them altogether because of metoo). Another girl I tried sleeping with but rejected me had a bf (she allowed me in her bed) told campus safety that I went into the room without being invited and that she didn’t knew me lmfao

I swear... all these three incidents have almost fucked my life over, and after the very last one, I swore to never even have any western female companionship, not even friends, not even go to dinners, no North American/European women in my room... nothing, it ain’t worth it anymore

I hope Hispanic born women In Latin American countries haven’t been infected by this psycho type behavior

[–]0kool7422 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy

I swore to never even have any western female companionship, not even friends, not even go to dinners, no North American/European women in my room... nothing, it ain’t worth it anymore

And this is the entire reason a bill like this was even created in the first place. Hell, the Rep even said it was due to something that happened to someone he knows. Yet all the cunt sycophants rail against it. I kept having friends and family members asking me when I was going to settle down and get married. They finally stopped asking after the last answer I gave them......"God Himself could come to me in a burning bush and saying I would be banished to hell if I didn't man up and marry His shit creation and I STILL wouldn't do it."

[–]1empatheticapathetic1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Why do you think women specifically target you for this? What pulls your SMV down that makes them think they can get away with this?

[–]FeniZio941 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Regardless of SMV, it’s the fact that they can do it They know it’s a legal weapon they have to lock down a man, or finish a man’s life if they choose so

[–]1empatheticapathetic4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

We know. But they tend to feel more justified to do these type of attacks on men where they think they can get away with it.

If you have a sizeable history of it happening to you, there is something about you where women think they can get away with it.

[–]FeniZio940 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

At that time it was being naive and not knowing that being manipulative is a major conditioning tool in every single North American/anglodescendant/European woman. Also I still believed that all women were angels (and not that 90% are literal backstabbers)

Also it was the fact that I had a history of being a player (I have quitted... not worth it anymore), I was at a highly liberal college campus (feminist groups and cultural Marxist groups have a lot of power... my last English teacher was definitely an full SJW feminazi that was 100% one sided with females and tons of complaints from male students and the board of directors didn’t do shit).

You also forget the fact that 90% of these women are so entitled that, independently of any factor, when their reputation is at stake (maybe losing a high SMV dude from getting caught cheating) and/or vengeful mind takes place because you rejected them, they will use anything in their power

[–]1empatheticapathetic0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Fair enough. I was just wondering about the specific question i asked but if you feel it doesn't apply then no worries. Yeah i'm aware this happens to everyone regardless of SMV.

I asked the question because i get very polarising reactions from women myself. Half good, half bad, very little middle ground. Bad can go to good once they get to know me a bit. But i believe this is due to my behaviour not really matching my subpar looks, and the behaviour not being strong enough on its own to blow away any bad perceptions before they occur. They feel something is off and so reach a nuclear reaction quite quickly so i sort myself into a category. Sometimes i can get past them, sometimes not. But there is an incongruency there that they are uncomfortable with and feel they need to address.

[–]FeniZio940 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If women slightly defend this (let alone full blown defend it) they’re part of the same group of those 90% of harpies... stay away from them

As long as a woman is fully against the disgusting version of today’s feminism, she’s not worth it because it means that she’s been poisoned by it to a certain degree

[–]omega_dawg9365 points66 points  (6 children) | Copy

i hate alabama (football) and would never cheer for anything in that state. i wouldn't move there if they were giving away money.

but on this topic... all i can say is:

"ROOOOOOLLL TTTIIIIIIIDE!"

thank you.

now, "LSU...LSU..LSU."

[–]0kool7411 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy

man fuck a buncha Loose Slut University LMAO.

but yeah.....the state is pretty fucked up.

[–]omega_dawg936 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

dude sluts are fun... and unlike bama, they're not kin.

[–]hazelstein2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

the state is pretty fucked up.

I heard there are reports of incest.

[–]0kool740 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

As well as I know the state and the people those reports are probably true

[–]escapethesolarsystem17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy

What people might not realize (including the idiot anti-rape activist quoted in the article) is that while it might be punishable to file a false police report, there is zero penalty for false rape accusations in family court, which are often used to take away a man's kids. This bill would also punish those family court accusations, which would go a long way towards fixing the problem of women lying about rape to get custody.

[–]isthisalreadyused11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

Based Alabama.

Anybody have any links to other subs discussing this? I'd love to see just how loud some women (and their cuck lapdogs) are shrieking about it

[–]geo_gan12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy

Try that X chromosome feminazi sub...

[–]SouloftheVoid[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Look under other discussions to see how they are reacting to it in the politics sub.

[–]throwlaca10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fuck yeah! as a victim of false harassment accusation that changed (destroyed) my life and my family, I just hope the fucking bitch get what she deserves. There is no such law in my country, I hope its implemented like rape accusations, that you can denounce them years after the fact.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy

Finally, I would love to see this be federal, but I'm a states rights guy and hope it just gets passed along naturally as is best IMO

[–]0kool748 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't live in Alabama anymore, but I did grow up there. May move back home soon due to family members getting older and the drop zone I used to go to being shut down back in '17. But yeah....even in backwards ass, low education, bastard womb filth born out of wedlock Alabama you can find liberal cuntfaggots railing against legislation that is meant to protect men. EVEN in redneck, snuff dipping, gun rack in tha back of the pick'em'up truck Alabama there is liberal cancer of the 3rd wave militant rabid feminazi and cuck/simp type that gets sand in their pussy or their dick slit over anything that impedes the immoral agency of women.

At least we've still got a really great college football team. ROLL TIDE!!!!!

[–]MatSapientia5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I feel lucky to live a life far from fornication.

This feminine primacy crap gives me stomachache.

The Cardinal Rule of Sexual Strategies: For one gender’s sexual strategy to succeed the other gender must compromise or abandon their own.

Since the invention of the anti pregnancy methods, and the rise of feminism, we’ve been living hell. The soft, silenced, feminine type of hell. Men suffering systematic slavery to serve the woman who cheated on him and her children of another man, paying the costs of his house without the right to live under its roof, getting their life-long effort ripped off, imprisoned.

Why?

We got tired of feminists whining about the history of men dominating the world. Looking back at it, humanity was better off like that.

What did humanity get from feminism? The more a country intrenched in feminism, the lower the fertility rate is. The older the population and the weaker society is.

Giving the pussy the steering wheel will be our demise.

It’s time to pull back the excessive corrupting power that ruined the sexual dynamics balance.

[–]US_A5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Anyway WE can support this bill??

[–]PhotonParable 1 points [recovered]  (6 children) | Copy

If rape accusations that were provably false were actually prosecuted, twice as many women would be sentenced for it than actual men sentenced for rape. Let that sink in. That's how common it is.

[–]styrg0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy

Shouldn't false rape accusations be up over 50% then? Highest over seen is 40.

[–]PhotonParable 1 points [recovered]  (4 children) | Copy

Nah, I meant that 2% of accusations are proven false by police and never even brought to court, and .6% of accusations actually end up in a conviction. So if law enforcement actually made the arrests they should, the ratio of jailed women for false accusations to jailed men for rape would be roughly 2-3x

[–]throwlaca0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

0.6% ? how can it be so low. What happen with the other 99.4% accused men?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Wait, I just looked into the stats. That 6% is out of all instances of rape, reported or not. I'm gonna have to revisit my numbers.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hi I'm back! According to RAINN, out of every 230 reported rapes, 4.6 arrests will happen. That's about 2%, and is the lowest end of the estimated false report rape (e.g. provably false allegations divided by total reports) So my .6% was wrong, yet the thesis is still right. Link if you want to break down the stats: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system

You see the reason rape convictions are so low is because the report rate is so low (the % of cases moving on to the "next step" with rape is similar to that of robbery and other crimes, so it's not justice system bias)

[–]Blackphish882 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

It had better be as harsh as punishment for an actual rapist and the lying bitch should be publicly exposed.

[–]SouloftheVoid[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

It would be a felony with up to 10 years in prison.

[–]hazelstein3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did anyone hear about Patrice O'neal's False Accusation Story? If you haven't you must.

[–]Protocol_Apollo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Guess the world is slowly waking up

[–]garrypig2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

How is this not already illegal?

[–]1NathanHollister1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Hopefully, there will be 49 more like it

[–]Nergaal0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Doubt it's going to pass. At least from the article, it implies that if there is an accusation, somebody will go to jail. Unless this law clearly defines ill-intent on the part of the accuser, then this is pointless.

[–]bouncypoo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'll believe it when I see it.

[–]GodOfDinosaurs0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I'm confused - are allegations proven to be false not already illegal?

[–]SouloftheVoid[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Not specifically, and this bill would make it a felony punishable by up to 10 years.

[–]GodOfDinosaurs1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

As long as the allegation is proven false beyond reasonable doubt, seems fine to me.



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