How much does lifting improve SMV?

TheFlyingPro · 2019-07-07T18:01:08+00:00

Lifting is also one of the most effective anxiety killers, this aspect cannot be overestimated

MarcusArelius444 · 2019-07-07T17:14:27+00:00

Lifting helps more so with the confidence in your appearance that gives you the mentality that you are entitled to an HB8 for example. It does get you sexual attention and it's great to be muscular if you're going for 1NS.

My personal tip is to try to be as lean as possible. At around 15% I'd get laid but at around 12-10% I'd get approached every time I'd go out. Lifting makes all the difference if you are lean.

TLDR: Lifting provides the confidence needed to approach and maintain frame. Remember Game & Confidence over Muscles & Height

Psychological_Radish · 2019-07-07T16:49:17+00:00

It depends on your individual situation and context. Leonardo Di Caprio is mid-40s and flabby. Yet he has been banging <25 YO models his entire life. The marginal return on lifting for Leo would be pretty low as far as SMV is concerned. His status as one of the most famous actors in the world for two decades overwhelms his deteriorated physical appearance.

Most of us aren't rich and famous celebrities, though, and probably never will be. A lot of that comes down to sheer dumb luck. For the average Joe on this forum, lifting is a guaranteed method of drastically raising SMV in a relatively short timespan.

Unless you're a sexy fireman or a DJ or something of the sort, your career won't make her want to fuck you more. Those are Beta Bucks provider traits that only come into play once she enters her epiphany phase.

For most guys SMV is basically about Looks and Game.

sebastianconcept · 2019-07-07T19:14:07+00:00

It has a potential to keep you perceivable as 10 years younger than you are. Think after your 40s banging hot chicks in their 20s

RayneXero · 2019-07-07T16:35:15+00:00

Lifting is not about aesthetics, testosterone rules the world.

HurricaneHugues · 2019-07-07T21:27:30+00:00

We tell u guys to lift because it's the easiest, non superficial thing you can do to boost ur SMV. You can buy all the cool clothes you want, but thats a superficial boost to ur SMV. Youll still be the exact same person underneath, weak and out of shape and unsure of himself. At least with lifting not only do you improve your SMV for real but u also build your character

MasterShake777 · 2019-07-07T17:15:01+00:00

disreguard females, acquire aesthetics

Sepean · 2019-07-07T16:45:10+00:00

Career is almost entirely irrelevant unless you’re aiming for beta bucks, or you’re famous or something equally extreme.

Frame and game is by far the most important once you’re talking to her, looks is say 20% by that point. But from a distance, it is the opposite.

californiawaves23 · 2019-07-07T18:28:58+00:00

IMO it’s about the individual. I have plenty of friends who are not in shape but have terrific charisma and they get laid. Could they get laid more if they were jacked? Possibly, but my point is just because you are jacked doesn’t mean you’ll get laid more. It’s a piece of the puzzle. For me, if I’m in good shape feeling good I’m more apt to be energetic, confident etc so it’s a by product plus I like to be healthy.

As my Pepere always said, look good, feel good, play good. Lifting for me is a major aid in the whole “look good” equation.

AdeHMar · 2019-07-07T18:25:18+00:00

More than anything.

9966123 · 2019-07-07T19:18:41+00:00

Being fit definitely helps in office setting, men respect you more and women don't act bitchy around you.

Lifting also helps your mental health. What more do you need.

kayfab · 2019-07-07T22:42:10+00:00

I am 47 and been lifting for 34y, now if you plan on lifting to attract women that is plain stupid, i had the passion for weight training since 13y old and i never lifted for any women.

Truth i got laid like crazy younger and even at my age i attract attention from younger women because i am built, and not beach body build more like close to 6 feet 240 pounds built.

MatSapientia · 2019-07-07T17:01:09+00:00

Muscles give visual stimulation Testosterone gives you boldness and makes you more relaxed and in control. It’ll also boost your libido which is the drive to attract women. T will motivate you to work harder and build up yourself and life. The combination of the above yields in natural game and resources which composes 90% of the mans SMV.

10% are factors you can’t control like your DNA, social environment, your looks, your history.

Lifting alone while musterbating will kill most of the benefits. It’s a power that’s sometimes hard to tame, but once you do, well.. just wow

acp_rdit · 2019-07-07T16:30:30+00:00

Lift for yourself, chicks liking muscles is a bonus

KuritaT · 2019-07-07T19:49:42+00:00

Lifting didn't help me at all. Still can't get girls whenever I want to, been lifting 5+ years. All the girls I got were luck I guess, but I never felt like my form made it for me.

FereallyRed · 2019-07-07T21:31:12+00:00

http://archive.is/WSvQU

T-P-T-W-P · 2019-07-07T22:35:59+00:00

Lifting boosts all aspects of SMV. You will gain mental benefits as well as the obvious physical improvements. Don’t slack on nutrition as honestly lifting doesn’t really matter if you eat like a child. Unless of course you want to say fuck it and be big/fat and strong, to each his own I guess. Lifting also doesn’t really guarantee anything. BUT it will absolutely raise the threshold of what you are realistically able to achieve with women and more. For example, put two otherwise identical men next to each other, except one is cut up with some noticeable muscle on him and the other is skinny and/or soft. Without ever speaking to either, which do you think women will pick almost unanimously. The jacked guy could be mentally retarded and the non one the real Don Juan. But the one who lifted was able to pass the average visual screening while the other was not. Do you see how this could benefit you?

Lateralanouncer · 2019-07-08T02:12:31+00:00

This is a good question. I would like to add it also depends on your age and what age group of woman you are interested in. For example, post wall 30+ woman will be looking for a man with a career. While 20-25 mark will be focusing on looks. Your purpose or work should always be first, as that is your future. I would say chasing pussy around through your prime is a wast of life and will have a cost latter on. I think asking yourself what kind of man you want to be in 10 years would be the most important and work towards that.

MandingoMaasai · 2019-07-08T12:21:19+00:00

Lifting helps tremendously. For starters, everything you wear looks better on you. Secondly, I have noticed that women not only approach you more, they feel you up when they do, touching my arms and/ or belly in my personal experience -they basically do the kino. Add to that the confidence boost you experience and you understand what it does for one's SMV.

BuzzLightGear321 · 2019-07-07T16:34:41+00:00

17.362% is the SMV determined from being fit. Is that too low for you? Are you going to give up preemptively?

Srs, if we promoted so heavily, just fucking do it. If you can't follow rule 1, don't even bother on rule 2.

thisismyfirstrode0 · 2019-07-07T17:39:59+00:00

As long as you’re sore the day after working out then you’re headed in the right direction. Especially when you first start out. The DMS (google) is what you want.

After each workout if you wake up the next morning with sore muscles then good. Remember, next time you’ll be a little faster and a little stronger doing the same workout.

I’d say your build is the best visual way of letting a girl know if you’re an alpha or a beta (for the most part).

NabroleonBonaparte · 2019-07-07T22:17:40+00:00

Like enlightenment, you can’t convey with words what it’s like on the other side. That’s how significantly lifting improves your SMV.

After seriously lifting heavy consistently, there’s no need for frame games and such. I just command and they do. Sometimes I do nothing and they still do.

I’ve went to places for snacks and got either a discount or the girl behind the register flat out gave it to me for free.

Until you pass the t shirt test (being able to wear only a t shirt and jeans and look hot), keep lifting.

RedIsBestColour · 2019-07-07T17:49:39+00:00

Lifting is not that much about body but confidence that comes after getting fit and your ability to take off your clothes in front of bunch of strangers and not feel shame. Also it teaches basic discipline too. Cleaning your room and cooking meals is another thing that is important to do for any man.

AceMav21 · 2019-07-07T19:23:02+00:00

Look up zyzz transformation then again that’s all roids

frankgold · 2019-07-07T20:13:05+00:00

Watch this video, decide for yourself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVocKymHbUs

Siccunt99 · 2019-07-07T22:00:49+00:00

x10,go lift.

Auvergnat · 2019-07-07T22:24:37+00:00

It’s simply fundamental.

If you were to picture TRP teaching as layers of wisdom piled onto each other, you would find SMV and its components (including aesthetics) somewhere in the middle. But at the very bottom, at the very core is this: your entire worth to women is predicated on your embodiment of masculinity, and physical strength is the prime cue.

You read people here saying how it also affects your self-esteem, your confidence, how men behave with you, etc. All these, and women’s attraction to good male aesthetics, are just symptoms of this fundamental truth: your apparent strength (or lack of) is the fundamental cue of your worth. Be weak to your own peril.

[deleted] · 2019-07-07T23:12:59+00:00

Maybe 20-40%

RedPillAlphaBigCock · 2019-07-07T23:14:38+00:00

Lifting is not all about looks which it does help - its about PRIDE, Mental health and strength that improes ALL AREAS of your life

deepthr0at · 2019-07-08T00:06:55+00:00

The same way brushing your teeth twice a day does.

illusiveab · 2019-07-08T00:56:06+00:00

All of life is about the spread and competency of your genetics based on fitness. That's what basic biology tells you if you listen. Lifting not only increases your physical fitness, but it equally enables you to fight, if necessary, for your right to survive and procreate. It seeks to increase your SMV consciously and subconsciously.

hotromeoforyou · 2019-07-08T04:58:12+00:00

Muscles increase SMV by 0.5 % .. Maybe, just underestimating this one BUT

What muscles bring :

Confidence

Personality

Strength

Posture

Positive Thinking

People respect you because of Discipline

Association with even stronger and influential people (unless you are fucking dumb )

What lifting brings with it is far more helpful in improving SMV than muscles.

GO... LIFT ...

teveza11 · 2019-07-08T12:53:20+00:00

It depends how dramatic the change.

Up to 5 points if you convert from a skinny weakling to buffed or a fatass to buffed (and lose the belly).

2-3 points if you are already in decent shape (2-3 points is a HUGE difference).

I used to play lots of sports but never thought about LOOKS, so I was on the thin side, strong, very fast, and thin.

In 6 weeks of lifting and drinking milk, eating a lot, I put on 15-20 lbs.

Since it was so fast, I was able to perceive the change in SMV.

I was getting hot girls sending their friends to talk to me for them in clubs, I was getting approached by hot girls, I was getting more IOIs.

A girl who knows me, told me that I used to be a 7 and now I'm a 10. I doubt that I'm a 10, but it provides perspective.

A better body also translates to success in your career and money. I have gotten 3 money making opportunities without even having to do a resume or apply.

I have had 3 females get me into money making opportunities that have resulted in LOTS of money. Its possible that appearance had something to do with it.

Also, when you are more buffed, people respect you more. You probably do better in all areas of life.

TFWnoLTR · 2019-07-08T14:07:28+00:00

I had women treating me differently in very noticable and even overt ways within two months of getting back into it last year. The confidence boost from the strength increase the posture improvement, and the increase in T all seemed to contribute. Over time it's added some more value with aesthetics.

What's interesting is I gat back into smoking weed a few weeks ago and it put my SMV right back in the shitter again. It's not like all my muscles disappeared or anything. I just started acting like a needy bitch again, and a hot plate who was all over me suddenly is being difficult to get with and probably about to break. Just realized this yesterday and threw out the rest of my weed.

In my opinion SMV for men is anywhere from 50% to 90% about your attitude, and lifting has a strong affect on your attitude.

mleko69 · 2019-07-08T14:19:48+00:00

Well, in my case it hasn't changed anything: year ago when I weighted 97 kilograms I was invisible for women. Today I weight 83 kg, lift for 2,5 months, slowly get muscles and still I am invisible for them. I feel better in my body though, but it's just a weak solace.

Title	How much does lifting improve SMV?
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Date	July 7, 2019 4:25 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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