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I'm pretty sure I'm going wrong, need some advice gentlemen.

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September 6, 2019
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35y, 5'9", 178lbs, 15% BF, married for 8 years, kids: 2 boys (4yrs & 2yrs)

Back Squat: 375 lbs

Deadlift: 410 lbs

Bench Press: 275 lbs

Dips: 175 lbs added

Overhead Press: 155 lbs

Pullups: 155 lbs added

Pendlay rows: 255 lbs

Readings

MMSLP, NMMNG, Book of Pook 50%, Daily readings of MRP/ASKMRP posts.

Currently Reading: WISNIFG, sex god method

I’ve been RP aware for about a month now and it’s completely changed my mind set. It’s given me hope for the future and plans that I didn’t have before.

My marriage was and is still just a typical modern day marriage. I see it everywhere. Friends, family, co-workers, all going through this modern day beta male syndrome. Low amount of sex (once a month at best), adhering to the woman’s needs and trying hard to keep them happy so it doesn’t “upset” the relationship. She’s angry/sad/moody, better fix that shit right now. Being a beta male and letting the passion go in exchange for boring comfort, which quite frankly slowly drains the life out of both partners.

I recognised this and found MRP. I’m awake and I’m making changes to myself so that I’m don’t remain as this blue pill faggot pussy bitch anymore.

The thing is, it’s really fucking hard to keep this slow paced. Once you find out this gold mine of information, you want to implement it immediately to make things better in your life. I did.

As expected during my change from BP faggotry to this RP mind set, there’s been 3 main times my wife has called me up on it (aside from the everyday shit tests etc). In fact, the type of shit she was coming out with really made me laugh as I completely expected all of it having read so many posts on here that were very similar. These conversations were mostly about my change, my new found interest in sex and how she doesn’t like sex as much as me. The one that made me laugh yesterday was straight after we smashed… “I need time in between sex to build up to be horny”. I genuinely laughed at this one, like how long do you need… It was 4 days since we last fucked… ill just give you a month each time then haha…

During these conversations I was asked a lot of questions. I couldn’t see a way out of not answering these without making her more insecure. I think I read them as comfort tests tbh, but I genuinely am not advanced enough yet to be able to know for sure. I completely understand why she’d have these questions, as I’m changing… I’m not a fucking push over anymore, I want MORE sex, MUCH more than we’ve been used to for the past few years, I’m taking charge in our relationship and family trying to be the captain… So I took it upon myself to explain a few things about the changes I’m going through as some comfort for her to not feel lost… Whether this was the correct thing to do or not, I really don’t know.

I’ve made some of my desires quite clear. I want more sex (and I’m getting more sex now), if she doesn’t want to give me more sex then we won’t continue like this (the response I got from this was the feeling of more pressure to have sex with me now otherwise I’ll leave her). I want more passion and desire, something which I know will take time to develop again, but that I believe is possible. Without giving away anything about RP, I explained that I’m trying to become a better version of myself. I’m trying to lead our family, but her input is still important. I’m trying to re-ignite some passion within our relationship. All of this I’m doing because I want to do it, I want this to happen and it’s what I see for our future. I’m just trying to be happy. I’ve been lazy over the past years and not lead my family where I should’ve. I also laid out some plans I have for our family, such as house upgrade, more excitement in our spare time and having more time for each other as well.

I know at the moment she’s not on board completely. Seems like she’s having trouble letting go of the fact that I don’t want to be her beta bitch anymore and it was mentioned that I’m making her feel like a little girl and that I’m taking charge of everything.

I’m in her frame. This I know. This is something I want to work on. I need to NGAF, but I’m finding it tough when she keeps coming out with this crap about not being happy about my changes. I’m doubting myself.

I know I should probably just keep rolling, concentrate on me and trying to understand how to maintain my frame and not let her bother me. Obviously I’m not there yet. It’s a fucking tough journey guys. I still feel weak, definitely. I know I can get there, whether or not she joins me, well I’ve said that’s up to her and if it doesn’t work out between us then that’s the way it goes, but I want it to work. It’s tough to not want it to work when there’s kids involved.

I guess I’d like to know what you guys think about this situation. Does it sound reasonably normal in terms of guys turning the ship around? Do you normally get these kind of tests where she calls you out on the changes you’ve been making?

Do I carry on like I have been, or try and slow down a bit, and if so how does one slow down? I feel I need this much sex, but if it’s making her unhappy (is that just bullshit or should I listen to this as a sign of RAMBO?)

Fuck, I’m confused.


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Title I'm pretty sure I'm going wrong, need some advice gentlemen.
Author mrbadassmotherfucker
Upvotes 23
Comments 77
Date 06 September 2019 12:27 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/252131
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/d0fzmz/im_pretty_sure_im_going_wrong_need_some_advice/
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[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"16 points17 points  (3 children) | Copy

Get out of the house more.

Adjusting the relationship dynamic with her is but 1/20th of what you should be doing.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've started organising some lads nights now. Not often enough, but it's a start. I play basketball once a week. Could do with some more hobbies to get involved with. Might look into a martial art I guess.

What if she wants to tag along? Is that a good thing?

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy

Fuck no, mormon.

[–]becoming_alpha3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Can't tell if you meant moron, or you're assuming mormon because of basketball.

[–]RPeed21 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy

Found this somewhere in the middle:

I couldn’t see a way out of not answering these without making her more insecure.

Learn to stay out of people's heads. Let people wonder what's going on in yours. Everything will get easier.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I'm definitely talking too much and I knew this and was thinking this exact thing whilst talking! I just wasn't sure how to answer her tbh. I couldn't just STFU cos it would have seemed autistic. I always start with STFU and listen for a while, then it's a barrage of "what do you think about this" etc.

Basically, if feel reasonably confident letting her know where I stand now that at least going forward I shouldn't have to repeat myself. I can just say that I've let her know what's going on and that's it.

Just gotta keep at it I think but no go too hard. Rambo is a bitch yo.

[–]SeamusAwl11 points12 points  (2 children) | Copy

STFU is not going mute. Its saying as little as possible.

Here is how STFU is done....

Her: Why all this sudden self improvement? (Actually a comfort test, dread is high because a woman who suddenly goes into self improvement mode does so for a new potential partner. I.E. solipsism at play)

You: i wasnt happy and making everyone miserable. Aren’t you happier now? (Pressure flip).

You then walk away to do something else, ending the conversation. That is STFU in action.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I'll get stronger and get to this point. Right now, i'm working on it. Thanks for the feedback

[–]hack3geRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s okay to open your mouth when you have frame and what comes out matters but all you really did was explain your grand plan to her. Bang up job Columbo...

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine9 points10 points  (2 children) | Copy

“Seems like she’s having trouble letting go of the fact that I don’t want to be her beta bitch anymore”

Of course, why wouldn't she?

Women have a dual mating strategy: alpha fucks, beta bucks. She found her beta provider (you) and doesn’t want to risk losing all the shit you provide ($). She had her fun fucking Chad when she was young. But she knows Chad wouldn’t make a good husband for her at this point in her life. You, on the other hand, are perfect for her: you come home everyday on time for dinner, listen to her feelz bla bla bla all fucking day long, take care of the kids, care about her happiness, and are fine with the slow drip of sex once a week. She likes that because she doesn’t have to try that hard to keep you. You aren’t the Prize, she is.

You’re also increasing your SMV, she knows it. She doesn’t want you becoming more attractive to other women. She’s programmed to keep you beta- to keep you so unattractive that no other woman would ever want to fuck you. That’s why women betarize their husband. Would a hot woman want to fuck a husband with a dad bod whose holding a purse outside a store at the mall?

Dude, you did fine but shut the fuck up. It’s normal. Don’t get sucked into any more conversations about it. At one point, she’ll start telling people you’re having a mid life crisis, watch. Just go with the flow. AA. A big comfort test is also on the horizon - watch out for it. Don’t mistake it for a shit test. Mmslp discusses this scenario.

Don’t listen to what she says. Keep gaming her. The line about needing more time between sessions, take that as you need to get better at the gaming.. women have responsive desire, need a build up first.

You need to fuck her mind first before her body. She’s not getting the tingles tm . Remember, she wasn’t attracted to you before. All your supportive and provider traits were great for comfort, but sucked for attraction building. She doesn’t want to fuck her provider. Women are programmed to reward their alpha male - their prize - with sex. You aren’t there yet.

She may or may not get on board. It’s not your problem. Keep working your ass off. Yes, it will be hard because other women will start giving you IOIs long before your wife will ...because they don’t have the faggot reference points of your old beta self that she does. Give her some time to get the slack out of the 1000 foot rope. Or start banging other chicks if you want. I don’t give a fuck which you choose.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Needed to hear this. Thanks bro

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Would a hot woman want to fuck a husband with a dad bod whose holding a purse outside a store at the mall?

Oh shit. This made me smile. I used to be that guy holding the purse. Now, she wouldn’t even dare ask

[–]SepeanRed Beret7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy

As predictable as her responses are, so are yours.

My post on 10 ways to fail hits several of your mistakes https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/bsxtu5/10_ways_to_fail_at_mrp/

And here’s one to make you understand how girls see you explaining your vision and plans https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/c87gt3/do_you_like_my_dissected_boobs/

Get out of her frame. Stop caring what she thinks. Stop explaining stuff to her, she’ll never agree anyway. Accept that this is a process that takes time - it is not just her that has to get used to the changes and realize you truly have become alpha, you also need to strengthen your frame, it takes more than just reading about it. Go as hard as you can with your improvement, but roll back your expectations on how quickly she will come around.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thanks for this. I've definitely fallen short in areas here and i know it. With time will come an improved me. Gotta get out of this pussy phase.

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret11 points12 points  (8 children) | Copy

I had to stop reading half way through then go to the bottom where the question was.

OP....dear gawd. There is a search bar. You can just flick back on the pages of the sub. It’s all right here. There are also other webpages out there of men who have collectively written notes on what has gone on.

Rambo. DGAF about Rambo. Too much is made of him and hardly any of you actually understand the reference. Rambo is a cool dude. He gets his life and moves forward unashamed. Rambo in the moment is another issue. This guy rages then goes, omigod did I do that?

Here’s a “rambo”. Corey Worthington threw a party. He Rambo’d the fuck out. And doesn’t really give a shit about it. He is undeniably Alpha he probably gets or got laid. But he’s a dick. Doubtful I would ask him over he’s likely to get my cat pregnant and leave the toilet plugged. (Credit to Rational Male but I can’t be bothered for the web site link)

The point of this is to stop worrying about her. This is about you and getting your self respect back. Fuck you are even worried about her being unhappy. Where’s your concern about your happiness? Where your life is going. Your boundaries, what you are and are not willing to accept in YOUR life. Never once have you thought about that other than I WANNA fuck. Yeah yeah got that.

You shouldn’t worry about being Rambo, in fact I give you permission to be Rambo for a fucking day. Stop being such a pussy.

Stop worrying about what a man is and just fucking be one

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

It's tough man. So many years of being a pussy has kicked my ass. It's hard to suddenly stop giving a shit about someone else when you've lived like this for so long.

You're right. I'm just finding it hard to impliment this mentality.

I know I can do it. I'm not scared of losing her, I'm confident I can find happiness in any other woman, but I am scared of losing my kids and not being a part of their lives every day. That shit DOES scare me tbh.

[–]rocknrollchuck5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

I'm not scared of losing her, I'm confident I can find happiness in any other woman

Find your happiness in yourself. Until you do that you'll never truly be happy.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Yep. Agreed, and that's my mission for sure. Beta bitch boy me keeps getting in my way... For now. I'll kill him eventually.

I definitely need sex though. To be happy. I'm not going abstainant

[–]ReddJiveRed Beret6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy

You now earned Pussy of the Week.

So many years of being a pussy has kicked my ass. It's hard to suddenly stop giving a shit about someone else when you've lived like this for so long.

.

I'm not scared of losing her, I'm confident I can find happiness in any other woman,

These statements are at odds with each other. You are no where near any of this.

I am scared of losing my kids and not being a part of their lives every day.

FIFY

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Yup. I agree. I'm having a fucking mind fuck today for sure. Need to sort my shit out

[–]hack3geRed Beret3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Definitely got my vote for faggot of the week - you are the definition of a guy who I’m sure looks like has his shit together since your lifts are legit but you are still a giant pussy scared of a little itty bitty girl.

What in the mother fuck?

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Exactly. Give me 5 more months and I'll have my shit in gear

[–]UEMcGillI am become McGill, Destroyer of Blue Pill10 points11 points  (5 children) | Copy

The levels of dread are caused by emotion not information. So look at her space and position and ask yourself how does she feel?

When she says "I need time to get horny" is she really saying "I need to feel horny?"

Post romp is a great time to communicate emotions and feelings. Oxytocin is running rampant and you've just done a very intimate thing. Instead of pushing your agenda reward her for her efforts. Tell her how awesome you feel because she was such a good girl. Tell her how irresistible she is and it's a wonder you can keep your hands off of her. Don't reinforce the negative "yeah if you don't fuck I'll find someone who can"

Remember fucking her good is as much about emotion as the physical. If you haven't read The Sex God Method goodle for a pdf version. She's been out of the dirty slut mode for awhile. Lead her back into it.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Great call. Apart from last night i was actively trying to do this. Got my first BJ in 4 years the other night and i re-enforced afterwards how awesome that was and how much i liked what she did.

Last night was just a fuck up. I should probably lay off initiating so often as well. I've said my piece anyway, so she knows that i WANT more. I also mentioned that She shouldn't be concerned if i want MORE sex, she should be concerned when i DON'T want it.

I'll have to get my shit together. I appreciate everyone's feedback on here. I need to here this!

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy

“Got my first BJ in 4 years the other night”

See...I just made a comment below about how BJs are a sign of progress. You finally got your dick sucked (by your wife!) Great job. You should be pissed.

Keep doing what you’re doing but minus the faggot talking and male hamstering.

“afterwards how awesome that was and how much i liked what she did.”

Good. But remember, you can’t negotiate attraction. You got that because she’s finding you attractive now, your SMV is increasing, and your value is going up. Less talking, more doing.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I think I'm starting to understand. I mean, I think I knew anyway, just hard to break bad habits and step out of that mentality.

Takes time I guess, but I'll try and stop over thinking and explaining shit.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

It’s time to knife that blue pill fucker once and for all.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Time to kick ass and chew bubblegum.

[–]Rifleshoot5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Idk, I would think that you shouldn’t tell her you are changing, you should simply show her. The fact that you tell her you are changing puts it in her mind that you are making a conscious effort to do things differently rather than simply believing that you are now different. It’s the difference between the dancing monkey and the actual alpha in her eyes. She doesn’t want to know that the captain is on a self improvement plan, studying to become a better captain. She just wants to see a badass captain at the helm, guiding his ship through the storm.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll lay off the talk so much from now. I've said everything now anyway, she shouldn't have to hear anything again about it, just witness the change over time and either hop on board or i ride solo.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (3 children) | Copy

shut the fuck up about what you want right now. Lifts look good but slow down. You can go too fast and bring on comfort tests and shitty comfort tests that will push your non existent frame. You will say a bunch of gay shit that will make you more unattractive and rapey. I know from experience.

You probably are making her insecure, it's normal. Typically new guys get all Rambo and try and take with force. This is worse when you have some of your shit together but are still a beta faggot with no frame.

Going slow will get you better results with less pain and agony. You want sex right? Become a man worthy of great sex.

I used to be similar to you but less gay. I would beg for sex and I would negotiate desire. Worse, I would talk a lot. My wife begs me for sex now. She follows me around looking for dick. Be a man of value and the sex will come. Get to work faggot.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

100% spot on. I want shit too fast, it's something I just have to learn to control. I speak far too much, but I've forced myself into these situations by going too fast.

I don't have the frame to deal with this.

Thanks for the feedback.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Frame is everything. Without it, expect very little and let the anger fuel you to change. Don't get mad at her, she is just the shape you made her.

[–]savageinthebox3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

“I used to be similar to you but less gay”

Hahahahaha

[–]RisingUpAgain8 points9 points  (3 children) | Copy

In general “I,” statements are comfort tests while “you,” statements are shit tests

Yeah you’re going way too fast, you’re talking too much. Be ready for the pushback in a couple of weeks.

STFU, act don’t talk

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

Agreed. Judging by the way she's reacting, I am going too fast. For me the change feels natural and Im happy with how I am, but for her she must be thinking "WTF is going on!"

Thing is, what do I slow down on? Do I not persist so much with sex? Do I try and be less in charge?

I'm not really sure.

[–]RisingUpAgain2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

That depends on what you want, and I’m not sure you know beyond “more sex.”

Dance monkey dance

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

When it comes to the relationship with my woman, I want to have a woman that shows me passion and desire. More sex, sure, but I mostly just don't want bordem, which is the way it had become.

For myself, I want to be the best I can be. I've had this attitude towards certain things in life for a while. Been lifting before MRP for a number of years and never had a problem pushing myself in the gym because I wanted to see how far I could take my body. I've got ambitions in my working life, but need to develop a plan. I've always wanted to be a good dad (NMMNG right) as my dad was a cunt. I'm a good dad, but mostly because I love being a good dad. Making sure my kids grow up to be proper men and have a good time on the way.

[–]CrazyLegs784 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

First, make sure you want the sex for just the sex, not some kind of validation.

Then, understand that sex for women is an emotional event most of the time. For your wife, with you, it's as much about feeling close to you, feeling attractive, feeling something...as it is about getting off. See all those feelz right there? Are you meeting those needs? A little effort here goes a very long way, but be sure not to do it in a beta way.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

At first I thought probably validation. But I'm genuinely just a horny mother fucker and giving up fapping has made me wanna put my dick somewhere else, I. E. My wife.

If I'm honest though, there may still be some validation sex in there... Hard to see it from the inside, its like I need to get off, but I'm sure I still want to see if she's into me too.

I need to get over this shit, fuck damn it. I know it too

[–]InChargeManRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I see the word "try" a ton in your post. Work on that. Don't try to do things, do things. Yoda has some wisdom on that if I recall...

In general you seem to talk too much. This isn't a team effort, it is you unfucking yourself and through guidance and trickle down you will hope to see improvements in those around you. If those improvements don't meet your standards and timeline, then you will remove/reduce exposure to those people from your life. If you are not ready to remove/reduce exposure then those standards you supposedly have are bullshit.

You might find value in the post I did a while back about my story, also in a lot of the comments. Not that you need to copy me, but it might give you a glimpse into the concept of frame, OI, and guiding your family.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando5 points6 points  (5 children) | Copy

Mrp is a sexual strategy but don't get trapped up in thinking it's all about the pussy.

Keep improving, keep developing, keep lifting, developing frame, working on your mission, moving forward.

Do that and the pussy will follow.

You've made a good start but don't make pussy the prize - make yourself the prize.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

I guess having been out the pussy game for so long it feels like I need to dive in head first and get as much pussy as I can. I mean, I want the pussy, I'm not having sex with her just for the hell of it, but it probably comes across as needy cos I initiate so often whereas before I didn't really care much.

I'm gonna try and focus on myself and my goals to better myself. Need to think of some more hobbies and get out more.

Gonna try and not worry about the sex so much.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando4 points5 points  (3 children) | Copy

it feels like I need to dive in head first and get as much pussy as I can.

I've done fisting before but I've never gone in with the head. Kudos.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

How about balls deep. Do I actually put the balls IN?

[–]RisingUpAgain2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

Just the balls, cock lays on top

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Amazing image. Gonna try this just for shits and giggles.

[–]BarracudaRP4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

I made it through your wall of text, more than once. My situation was a lot like yours when I started MRP about two years ago.

> it’s really fucking hard to keep this slow paced,

Yes and if your lifts are any indication, you're no stranger to disciplined, delayed gratification - and that will pay off huge here.

I don't think you're going Rambo. You're talking too much (remember what DEER stands for - and don't do those things), but I don't think you're doing damage yet, you're addressing the changes that your wife is seeing, and you're also telling her about your vision for you and her (and your family). When men start unplugging, it seems like there has to be one conversation where we communicate overtly to our wives - saying things out loud to make it clear what we will not accept. My conversation with my wife was very similar to yours, including my needs for not just sex, but passion, desire, fun. When my wife pushed back on some of my needs, saying that I was asking for a 'double standard', I had to tell her overtly "There will absolutely be standards that I expect you to keep, that I will not be keeping myself." That was a HUGE turning point in my marriage, and she complied. I think it's important that these long, overt conversations only happen one time - every time after that, we need to be a broken record, not getting sucked back into a lot of words and emotions.

> “I need time in between sex to build up to be horny”

It's clear to me that you know this is bullshit.

> Do you normally get these kind of tests where she calls you out on the changes you’ve been making?

Yes. Be prepared for other bullshit, such as: "I liked you better when you were nice", "You've changed and I don't like it", "You killed the guy that I married", "I like it when you are a little chubby, or have a dad bod", "You're treating me like a child, and that's wrong", "I don't know how I feel about our marriage", "You need to talk to me more" and other lies The Hamster tells. We all hear these phrases when we are moving away from being purely the provider/beta/wimp. Watch her actions, not her words - her actions will tell you how your relationship is changing. This was a really hard lesson for me to learn and it took me a while. I had to learn that my wife doesn't fully grasp her own emotions, wants or needs a lot of the time, and the things that come out of her mouth are often changing are frequently as her emotions are changing. So it's not like she's lying, she's just telling you the things she things are true at that moment. As men, we don't really operate like that.

> I’m in her frame. This I know

You are building escape velocity. Keep going, keep working on your internal frame, and start selfishly working on you like it was your favorite hobby. We don't need to destroy her frame, we just need to make your frame so big and awesome that she always wants to live there. Of course you want it to work out, you want to stay with the mother of your kids - but what happens if you can't do that? What if it's not your decision? The answer of course, is that MRP saves the man, not the marriage.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Thank you. Its fucking refreshing to hear this and gives me even more hope then I already had.

[–]savageinthebox4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy

Like others, I couldn’t get though that wall of text so I’ll just respond to the points I caught. #1, you’re a month in? Dude it will take a year at least before you get real results. Even if YOU changed completely in 30 days there’s no way your wife has had time to take in and internalize your change. After years of being a BP faggot you expect your wife to bow down to your manliness after 30 days of holding frame? No way. Not to mention the fact that there’s no way you’ve unfucked yourself in a month anyway. I’ve been unplugging since February and just barely starting to see a change in my woman. Now you might have faster results, cause I’m a fat ass and you’re not, but you need to slow the fuck down. And what the fuck are you doing having the “Ive been making changes and you need to give me more sex now talk?” This is like the 10th stage of dread, have you done the first fucking 9? Not in a month! And your bullshit words about your change mean nothing, she needs to SEE the changes, and you need to STFU about it. You have a long way to go faggot.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Absolutely mate. I've gone in guns fucking blazing with no backup. I definitely didn't expect her to change, but even with that knowledge I still went for the holy grail of change.

I think it doesn't help that I lefted before this and get regular IOIs. My ego probably has taken control and I need to shut that shit down. Like you say, it's gonna take time for her to come around to my way of things.

I'm gonna talk less. A lot less.

[–]savageinthebox4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don’t tend to get IOI’s on the street (like I said, I’m a fat-ass in progress of losing weight) but I know being married is RedPill on hard mode - THOTS on the street think you look good, so they look, your wife knows what a faggot you are, she knows how bad the bathroom smells after you take a shit, she knows about that time you cried when a movie reminded you of your grandma (fuck that might have been me but whatever). Keeping a woman who knows all your weaknesses and odors and shit interested in you sexually is the hardest thing in the world. You need to work on your frame and your game. KINO, etc. Also, look up posts on the 1000 foot rope on here if you aren’t familiar with the concept.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You’re one month in. She shouldn’t notice any changes. Get out of Rambo mode because you’re not ready for the consequences it brings... not even close to ready.

Read the entire sidebar, STFU, keep lifting, and take the dread levels up slowly.

One more thing- quit fucking talking so much... particularly about how you are going to demand more sex going forth. You’re not attractive to her yet. When you become attractive to her as a result of better frame, sociability (get out more), sidebar... Etc, you will get laid whenever/wherever you want. Trust the process and be patient

[–]RickTickTickyshaw1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy

Sounds like you can slow down a bit, she's starting to see your positive changes. You are in her frame for sure. Worry more about getting some outside hobbies, and let the process take it's course.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Yep, definitely. I know it as well, but for some reason i just want it all now. Fucking greedy for a little bitch who doesn't yet deserve it.

[–]MrChad_ThundercockBig Red Machine6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Because you have been starved of pussy for years with your wife. She’s been outplaying & outwitting you all this time. But it’s not her fault , it’s all on you. You allowed this.

But now, you see how the magic trick works. You don’t feelz ashamed or afraid to admit that you're a man and it’s okay to want pussy from your wife. You should be fucking everyday. You should be getting great BJs from her often. Powerful men get great BJs - Bill Clinton. The unsolicited blow job is a great indicator of your progress.

If you want to stay married, you need to give her time to adjust. You at least owe her that. 1 month for every year you were a faggot blue pill beta.

You should be going through the anger phase by now. Use it for your lifts.

Don’t slow down. Don’t stop the momentum. Start learning day game and practicing catch and release during the day. Your wife will smell/sense other women on you... but mainly, your new and improved cocky, confident, and dgaf attitude. She’ll find it very attractive. Start developing and fine tuning your skill set.

You can’t go back. Your back is up against the mother fucking wall- there’s only one way to go, which is forward.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fucking A man. Fucking A. I know for sure there's only one way to go now. I know if I don't do this then it's game over anyway. Maybe not now, maybe not for a year, but in 5 years... Divorce and I'd still be blue pill. FUCK THAT!

That's why I'm taking this seriously! As serious as it fucking gets. I'm not letting it get to that stage. If my wife doesn't want any part of it, I need to be ok with that and move the fuck on.

I'll achieve this, on my own or with her. I know I will. It's early days and I'm learning.

Thanks for the feedback

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You're getting pretty good at this shit.

[–]umizumiz1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

She's trying to test you to see if you'll stop improving, to see if you are truly a man or not.

[–]mrpthrowa1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Shut the fuck up dude

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's on. New day, new start. Fuck being a beta boy

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

How can you be 1” shorter than me, 40# less and have nearly the same BF%?

I really wanna see you do a full set of Dips with 3 plates and a quarter hanging from your cock.

My guess is your height and weight are the only things you are telling the truth about.

Other guys handled your other faggotry.

[–]hack3geRed Beret3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

Definitely possible - I’m 10lbs heavier than OP same height and probably just under 15% BF.

My lifts are similar with my BP being slightly lower and my DL/Squat being higher. That being said the dip and pull-up numbers seem off.

Also I don’t think you quite understand how big of a mother fucker you are.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Also I don’t think you quite understand how big of a mother fucker you are.

Anxiety, depression and a healthy dose of body dysphoria will do that to you.

I suppose you are right. It is all proportional. The weights OP has listed are like 3x8 set for me. Who knows, who really cares.

I dont think I could strap 175# to a chain and do sets of 8 dips. But again I have never tried.

I sure as fuck couldnt do +155# pull ups. Fuck I can barely do pull ups as it is...

I use the seated dip machine (non-cable) and toss 275 or 315 on there blasting out sets of 15 or 10, so I suppose it is possible...

[–]hack3geRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah you definitely have body dysmorphia but I get it as so do I - I feel small as fuck. Your mass is about what I’m shooting for. Goal is to be 210 10% BF and I’m 5’8”. It’s fucking unnatural and even with drugs gonna take me a few years.

I do weighted chins and use 90lbs - fuck 155 that’s insane.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Haha. K bro. Hit me up when you wanna buy me dinner and I'll show you my lifts xxx

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Whatever man. Whenever you are in Dallas HMU.

You have decent enough lifts to not require me to remove a ton of plates between sets.

[–]redditguy610 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Is your mommy, errr... wife older than you?

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Younger, 1 year

[–]gettingmymojobackRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You’re treating her pussy like it’s the prize, instead of being the prize.

The thirst is overwhelming in your post. If we can smell it from here, imagine what the stench is like for her. It’s called abundance mentality for a reason.

Women don’t like being chased by thirsty losers, they want to chase the prize. Be the prize.

Work the sidebar and STFU.

[–]friendandadvisor0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Stop spilling your guts about your new plans and what you want. She will either use it against you or it will slow down your recovery time.

Just say "Well, this here action sounded best. What's wrong with it?" Don't mention RP principles, just make her come up with good reasons. Turn it back on her. If her reasons conflicts with your desire, say as much, and leave it at that.

STFU is stressed for a reason.

[–]Masterzage-1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy

Imho your wrong on so many levels. Me I'm a lurker and recently took red pill about 6 months ago. I would tell you this: she does not like or even hates when she has sex with YOU and therefore she is only having sex with you out of duty, and shes scared of destabilizing you. She sees, feels your very unstable, that your changing, she can detect your shaky frame is non existant and doesn't respect you.

Ok fine so be it. Time to get to work like I did as I was in your shoes not too long ago. I still am in many ways....

I know you want her to desire you. Real desire. If that's what your looking for (I'm not btw, I couldn't care if my wife desires me, she is a calculating harpy bitch to be honest), you must STFU, lift and read sidebar. Chill out. Stop such communication with her. Sloooooow down. ACT.

DO.

STOP discussing shit. STOP IT.

Chill out. Vent somewhere. Scream like a motherfucker in your car. Get it out. Every day if you must.

Calm yourself.

Calm.

Go to bed. Try to sleep.

Now from here on in carry on like if nothing ever happened. No conversation was had. And reset the next day.

Now STFU, lift, side bar.

Do not talk about anything other than logistics, or casual banter. You have no verbal skills, you can't pass tests, you will fuck this up. All this "red pill knowledge" you've read must be absorbed with time. Right now you can misinterpret the most minor of things into something more than it is. Your "untrained" in the ways of MRP. Recognize this. Your newly found "sight" needs to be gotten used too.

Until you absorb and understand this knowledge you have acquired (it will take you months), and until you've built up in yourself the badass motherfucker bastard you are, and done this slowly so that's it's TRUE, congruent, and real, you need to calm down. Calm. Breathe. And lean into the pain. Feel the pain. It sucks. Dive into it. Feel it. Consistently train your mind, side bar. Read. Read. Absorb. Train your body lift. Lift. Keep training like a padawan. Your not a jedi yet. Your raging. Calm.

Now keep STFU, lift and sidebar. This is going to take months of work to save YOU.

[–]mrbadassmotherfucker[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Yep, I think you're right. And appreciate the feedback. I'll take note of all this advice today

[–]screechhaterRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Wow. Fuck. Somebody gets it.

STFU. Lift. Read.

Stop fucking talking Just stop. Actions. Yes



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