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Difference between MRP and TRP

by redpillm | September 12, 2019 | askMRP


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Hey all,

I see a difference in response maturity and philosophy between the 2 communities, for a new redpiller. I wonder if MRP is a stage to get into after starting with TRP, or does it have a different school of thought. If the latter is true, what are the resources for a new MRP that I should consider?

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Title Difference between MRP and TRP
Author redpillm
Upvotes 19
Comments 39
Date 12 September 2019 12:35 AM UTC (10 months ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/252918
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/d2zwlv/difference_between_mrp_and_trp/
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[–]bsutansaltTRP Founding Father[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children) | Copy

They're largely the same. The principle difference is where in the sliding scale of relationships you find yourself.

If it helps, you may think of it like this:

TRP is about sexual strategy for men. MRP is TRP + the an added legal definition or label applied to the practitioner's relationship.

What you do to become maximally attractive and therefore sexually successful while is the same in either case, as are the theories, framework, etc.

[–]SepeanRed Beret26 points27 points  (19 children) | Copy

The core sexual strategy is the same.

The TRP subreddit is in my opinion infested with incels and MRAs that are very far from being red. They spend their time bitching and whining about the nature of women, instead of putting in the work and go out there slaying. To me, red pill knowledge isn't something to bitch about, it is something you use to get exactly what you want. But a lot of guys on TRP feel differently.

There's also a ton of immature, angsty, broken guys on TRP. I really don't like that place, I unsubscribed there years ago. There are some real alphas and some good info there, but it is mixed in with a lot of shit.

On MRP, we don't allow whining. We call guys who don't do the work faggots, instead of holding their hands and agreeing how mean girls are to them.

The mods here on MRP have done a great job at keeping losers and whiners out, and it shows in the culture and tone of the sub.

[–]Cam_Winston21[🍰] 20 points21 points  (0 children) | Copy


TRP = it's their fault.
MRP = it's your fault.

(edit: formatting)

[–]BarracudaRP6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Nailed it. Before I found MRP, I would visit TRP but it didn't click - the red message is hard to find because of all the other crap posted there.

[–]SeamusAwl5 points6 points  (9 children) | Copy

Completely agree. I see TRP as a bunch of kids who utilize the “pua tactics” as a tips and tricks checklist to getting laid. They are not digesting the red pill. They see no need to get their head on straight.

MRP are a bunch of guys in the trenches. Experiencing life from within a horrible relationship. They know there lives are fucked up and know they need to somehow unfuck it. Sadly, still too many want someone else to do the work for them.

[–]hack3geRed Beret6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy

It’s why we see guys here who end up leaving their wives saying how fucking easy it is fucking chicks.

One of my favorite articles by /u/RStonePT is “What did you think she was going to do?” it literally changed my entire outlook on MRP but there is a line in it that is exactly about this:

“Her role is only as a sparring partner. You have a person who shit tests you in real time. You are training more intensely than the actual events, since she already thinks you're a fuck. It's an uphill climb.”

I’ve been meaning on doing a breakdown about this article by Rian for a while as it has so many critical MRP concepts and the applications both for new guys who are pre main event and those that are further along and working on creating their slut.

[–]RStonePT3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy

I've got to rewrite that one of these days for legibility now that you mention it

[–]hack3geRed Beret8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy

“Remember this, write it down, post in on your wall. Dread isn't a way to sprinkle alpha on it. None of this is for her. At this point, your relationship is a dead husk, and you are applying dread as the way I've always described it:

A deliberate set of steps, which remove you from a shitty relationship, and put you on your best foot forward for the next one/s, allowing enough time for the people in your life to get their shit together and fight to have you back.”

You want MRP distilled down into its most simplest frame - well this is fucking it. This one line changed my entire life.

[–]RStonePT3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

You and me both man. I became selfish, happy, and everyone around me seems to be the same

[–]RedPillGlasses0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

All true. She’s not yours, it’s only your turn. And you get stronger or weaker being with her, up to you.

[–]hack3geRed Beret2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

You have some work to do you don’t understand shit.

I’m the fucking prize - I’m not hers it’s only her turn and only if she keeps me interested.

Also what is this faggotry about her having any bearing on you being weak or strong. My wife has no impact on who I am as a man and what I do with my life. Does she add value in some places - yes, mostly in the places I’ve led her to.

I think you are new here - you should STFU, lift and read because you are lacking.

[–]hack3geRed Beret4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

We blame the man until it’s proven it’s no longer him but her that isn’t up to snuff.

You do that by becoming a man of value and proving you have options. Most of the vets on MRP could be drowning in pussy within a few days if they chose to which I argue is not the case on TRP.

Don’t get me wrong there are some great guys on TRP but that is the exception rather than the norm.

[–]bsutansaltTRP Founding Father[M] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

The main sub is only as good as the moderation and there's only so much free time in a day and people have to work. If you see shit threads, by all means report them and automod can nuke them when one of us isn't around.

[–]SepeanRed Beret2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

It's not just some threads, it's also a lot of users and their comments that needed to go imo, and reddit's upvote system makes it even worse as good threads and posts get downvoted and whiny ones get upvoted. For example, my most downvoted thread on reddit ever also got me a ♂ point from a moderator. It was a good post, solid info and something red pill vets would agree with, but not what the wannabes liked to hear.

Clearly there's a lot of people there who like main sub, but they like something different than what I like. I like the MRP approach, everything is about improving - if it isn't, it gets ban hammered.

[–]itiswr1ttenRed Beret2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Still working on it. The modding goes in waves because the volume is several multiples of the MRP volume. TRP esp asktrp needs to tolerate some of the kiddos because they have no where else to post.

Temp and perma bans still abound, they're just different communities tackling different problems.

[–]RStonePT1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

plus, it's much easier to herd 30k people than it is 300k.

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

True statement.

[–]johneyapocalypseThe one that says "Bad Motherfucker"0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sheesh, never, ever, ever would I have imagined YOU and STONEY would be talking about doing something 'cuz it's EASIER.

Damn, what to think... I'm lost.. misguided... sheesh...

Bwa, still love you both.

Bro-hug for my eternal favorites.

p.s. 69.74% homo, and proud of it. :-)

[–]simbarlionRed Beret14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy

TRP is like Formula 1

MRP is like Le Mans

Both have the aim to win but you do it in very different ways.

[–]redwall921 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

TRP is like Formula 1

Not from the South, hey? Your lack of a perfect opportunity for an NHRA reference gives you away.

[–]simbarlionRed Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I am a global citizen :)

[–]Iammrp216 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

I wonder if MRP is a stage to get into

Spell it out dipshit. MARRIED Red Pill. It's RP while being married. All the same principals apply. A man and woman's biology doesn't change because you wear a ring or sign a contract with the government. But that contract does change the dynamic significantly. Blue Pill men exchange a portion of their manhood for her comfort.

A lot of men come here after years or even a decade of blue pill brainwashing. Did everything by the book and it all back fired. RP or MRP helps men rediscover the truth of our biology and begin reclaiming that lost masculinity. This process of unfucking yourself is what you need to save your life and in the process of saving your own life you may save your wife and children's life as well. Not a guarantee but at least as a competent captain you can avoid the rocks and safely make it to shore so the wife can get off your boat peacefully.

[–]NMMNG_13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Not a guarantee but at least as a competent captain you can avoid the rocks and safely make it to shore so the wife can get off your boat peacefully.

On point.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy

what are the resources for a new MRP that I should consider?

Read the entire side bar

[–]umizumiz2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy

Ugh... The whole thing?!

[–]IRunYourRiver2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy


[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

In one weekend.

[–]RStonePT3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

jokes aside, don't fucking skim

nothing worse than a '2 years MRP, whats a shit test?' field report

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

The amount of hair the average member has on his back.

[–]i-am-the-prize2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

and ears... sigh

[–]JoeBuckYourslf3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

I dont bother visiting TRP.

While some may say the general concepts are the same, I think TRP is full of autists and shit posters.

I believe the real helpful stuff to be here (and there are some TRP gems IMO)

[–]RStonePT4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol, this old one.

Quick answer

  1. egos and personalities
  2. demographics
  3. marital state
  4. the tone is different because there a shit ton more incel losers who are single than are married, and there's a shit ton more married co dependants than single ones

[–]broneilbro4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

The maturity comes through experience. Wisdom = Knowledge + Experience. If you want to read my experience you can look at my past posts. As you go through it you can look at your relationships from the marriage aspect and apply the MRP basics to it.

The only difference between being married and in a long term relationship is that you have to ask the government for permission.

[–]SorcererKingMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Where'd you go? I see you shitposting politics, but no reporting in here or MRP. You're a pro now?

[–]screechhaterRed Beret1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

It’s the same. Except your legally tied to who your gaming over here.

Just FYI, layout out serious boundary infractions and we’ll quip out “next” too.

Probably the real difference is OYS, in the main sub


Level of maturity.

Call out a hell of a lot faster on your bullshit.

You lifting ? Sidebar reads ?

[–]primordialawe2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Terrific Red Pill.

Magnificent Red Pill

You pick the one you want to be. Different strokes for different folks. No wrong answer no right answer.

[–]adeptintact0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I actively visit both. Even though the TRP crowd is younger, I find that they are tougher in applying red pill principles in an LTR. Everyone on MRP should also visit TRP because it's educational.

MRP is specialized in LTRs and how to use the red pill to improve your lives in a LTR. However, some of the stuff on here is a bit more beta than I would prefer. While having some beta is good, I think 80% of behaviors should be more alpha in a relationship to sustain it long term for the man's satisfaction.

There is a reason TRP is on probation status on the verge of being closed down while MRP doesn't have that problem. True red pill tenets are labeled too mysoginostic and extreme. Having different points of view from both subreddits helps.

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