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Rule Zero on Facebook

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September 17, 2019

Rich Cooper, Rian Stone, and Jon from Modern Life Dating started a private community on Facebook that's grown to about 700 users in a month. I am a fan of both Rich and Rian and like their youtube content. I almost went to 21 Con because they were going to be there and of all the content creators, they are among the elite bringing concise, relevant, and easily applicable wisdom.

The Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1384109495075844/

Their description:

What you really you need to know is Rule Zero:Our mission is to increase men's sexual power and options, and improve their lives.This is the mission.Support the mission.Or go somewhere else.

Their Group Rules from the Admins

1 You must have a profile pictureYou will not be accepted if you do not have a profile picture of yourself, no exceptions.2 You must use your main facebook accountAbsolutely no sock puppet accounts, use your main facebook account, or you will be declined entry and banned.3 Don't be an askholeDo not ask questions, and do nothing with the information, and come back again later asking a similar question.

This isn't an advertisement to that group, nearly the opposite. Full disclosure, I have joined, made some comments here and there. However.....I have questions and concerns.


  1. I am apprehensive to get involved in facebook groups at all, let alone controversial ones because facebook privacy.. well isn't great. For example, a simp I know within the industry I am in changed his privacy settings to accidentally expose all his groups somehow, so not only his wife, but any on his friends list could see his posts in "BBW in Chicago" on his timeline and in their news feed.
  2. Reddit is like my "Rick Sanchez Portal Gun" to check out odd things, be anonymous, be weird, be a troll at times, and occasionally acknowledge that I'm a dipshit and need own it and grow. Facebook is where I put on the public persona. It feels like inviting the side chick and the wife to the same party.
  3. A lot the 21 Con speakers, bloggers, podcasts, and youtube channels use aliases. In fact there's been some talk recently about Rollo "doxxing" a meeting location to a NYT reporter, then she showed up. I think RC was concerned about security at a 21 Con event and backed out.
  4. My limited view on doxxing is that I created an new anonymous Reddit account for this because I didn't want anyone, especially my wife, googling my regular reddit username and seeing this post and comment history. She would be pissed, shit tests and comfort tests would flood in, and she would see my changes as role playing and I would lose dread. I just don't want to start over again.


  1. What are your thoughts on Facebook groups and privacy?
  2. What are the legitimate concerns on getting doxxed?
  3. Has anyone HERE actually been doxxed and had legitimate fallout?
  4. Is there already an actual "MRP" group on facebook already that I just don't know about?

Post Information
Title Rule Zero on Facebook
Author helaughsinhidden
Upvotes 8
Comments 42
Date 17 September 2019 03:28 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askMRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/253641
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/askMRP/comments/d5ilfd/rule_zero_on_facebook/
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[–]2ndalRed Beret31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck Facebook.

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando29 points30 points  (0 children) | Copy

I changed my Facebook name to "No one".

I hit up people's pages and "like" their posts, so it reads "No one likes this post".

[–]Thorondor_Rising17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

Facebook is for women and faggots.

[–]Balls_Wellington_-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

All depends on the friend list. I'm at about a 1/3 mix of memes, family, and Jerry Springer at this point and it isn't half bad.

[–]ahackercalled4chan5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

if you're concerned about privacy, avoid FB like the plague.

[–]helaughsinhidden[S] 6 points7 points  (6 children) | Copy

Last year, I used the "download your content" feature to see what that was about. Everything. Every post, comment, like, personal message, photo, like, and even photos sent in Messenger is saved permanently, even if you've deleted it.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

How do you view the downloaded content? Does it export in code or does it have some sort of GUI to view the content?

[–]helaughsinhidden[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

Post your username and password, I'll help you free of charge

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

I tried it. Its just HTML files. Deleted messages aren't included in the export.

[–]helaughsinhidden[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

It's changed then, I saw convos from people I unfriended and blocked? And pics too. Matter of fact that's why I did it. Wife likes to send nudes on messenger, then deletes them from her phone, from the chat, and checks my phone to make sure they've been deleted from my side. They were in the content I downloaded so i got them back!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

The messages were there or just the photos?

I only chose to export messages. It only took archived and active. From what I read the messages are gone. This probably doesn't include photos.

[–]helaughsinhidden[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's been a while and I actually don't recall an option to choose. I think it was actually XML files (not html) for all the messages placed into separate folders per person and the images were also in different folders separated by person.

[–]BobbyPeruRed Beret5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

I am apprehensive to get involved in facebook groups at all, let alone controversial ones because facebook privacy.. well isn't great

More Importantly, it’s permanent, even if you delete it... and it’s under your name. It could come back to seriously haunt your life

[–]Balls_Wellington_8 points9 points  (7 children) | Copy

What are you hoping to find there? I'd definitely make a fake old person account if I was going to join up.

I don't want RP stuff attached to my name. Too much of it appears misogynistic without the right background, and there's plenty of embarrassing stuff to filter through (like that one idiot that recommended leaving the room if he wasn't the tallest, fittest guy in it) that I don't want to have to explain.

[–]RedPillGlasses2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This. Profile picture is just asking for it.

[–]tom-anonymous1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

I remembered it wrong. I thought the guy said he'd leave the city if he wasn't the tallest fittest guy in it.

[–]Balls_Wellington_1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Shit, maybe. I'm trying to find it. Incredibly insecure either way.

[–]tom-anonymous4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

Either way funny as shit. I picture the Homer Simpson meme where he walks in through the revolving door and then immediately walks right back out when he sees another man with more substance.

[–]Balls_Wellington_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I can only assume he has an Olympic bar and the door and anyone who deadlifts more than him gets turned away.

Probably brings a tape measure to the bathroom too

[–]SBIIIRed Fucking Commando0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Apparently he left a lot of rooms.

[–]Balls_Wellington_1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is the same guy who swore by alternating between missionary and doggy for 30-60 seconds at a time and made sure he was the best at sex in a 50 mile radius. I can only assume he accomplished that by moving to Siberia.

[–]NaAF12243 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Private Facebook groups are private right up until they’re not.

[–]umizumiz3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

The group was created for one reason.

To get your info, and to sell you shit.

No other reason you would HAVE to use your "real" identity.

[–]Praexology2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy


What are your thoughts on Facebook groups and privacy?

There is too much to lose in this current climate being someone diagnosed(or rather, misdiagnosed) as "misogynistic" and unfortunately for an outsider, redpill has that stigma about it because it is a direct roadblock to the female imperative. Sounds like they are trying to make the group hold it's followers to a certain standard, but anybody with anything to lose would be a fool to potentially mark themselves as a woman-hater in the gynocentric society we live in.

What are the legitimate concerns on getting doxxed?

Similar to my first post, all it takes is for a small news station to say it's an anti-womens group and heaven forbid it's a slow news day and someone like CNN decides to pick the same story up. Imagine your face on a news report about "anti-womens group on facebook spreading hate."

Has anyone HERE actually been doxxed and had legitimate fallout?

No relevant experience with this.

Is there already an actual "MRP" group on facebook already that I just don't know about?

No relevant experience with this.

[–]Redpillbrigade172 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Facebook is a tool. It’s a “social media” tool. The question is “is it a tool that you can use ?” Or are you part of someone who else’s tool?

[–]RStonePT3 points4 points  (4 children) | Copy

  1. It's horrible, then again, so is Reddit

  2. This is more from your privacy settings. I already ensure we have no brand new accounts, not cartoon AVI accounts, no chicks, and no femenist males. It looks no different than that 'order of men' garbage fire space

  3. There's been reddreadwolverine and triadis3. both were people IRL who knew them who used this as a cudgel. You don't talk about fight club, right?

  4. I think WNS has a dischord.

Having said that, do yourself a favor. If you want a group to talk entrepeneur, stick with richs private community, if you want to talk about this, stick here. I've got patreon if you want a more personal experience, and Jon has his own community for the younger kids.

RZ is a fan group. Reddit banned us last time we tried to make one here. It's not whats going to help you unfuck your life, the content in there is not vetted for any utility, and it's purpose is simply to give people who like the cast a place to get together and fuck around that doesn't shit up any of the more useful places.

And for everyones information, the reasons people get doxxed are:

  1. They tell people secrets they shouldn't be
  2. they usually tell their 'internet girlfriend' who will sell you out for the most flippant of reasons
  3. They also lie and embellish in a way thats super embarassing when tied to their IRL life
  4. For some fucked up reason they get involved in politics, where people are always on the hunt for scalps.
  5. Privacy settings and the most basic OPSEC is ignored.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

most basic OPSEC is ignored

Is this why I never see pics of your biceps bro?


[–]RStonePT0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Not at a cigar bar when a NYT reporter is around, that's for sure.

Also very cool, the tren-lord picking on the poor 190 pound natty boy... I expect to be hanging from a coat hook by my underwear or I'll be very disappointed in you.

[–]red-sfpplusHard Core Red0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

You know I have nothing but love for you Stoney.

[–]RStonePT0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I've been bullied before, I know what bait smells like 🤣

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Has anyone HERE actually been doxxed and had legitimate fallout?

There have been people who's lives have been affected. Triadis3 I think was a example - he was doxxed.

[–]helaughsinhidden[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

What was the fallout?

[–]SteelSharpensSteelMod / Red Beret0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I don't recall, but some shit went down. Happened maybe a year ago.

[–]ShortGame641 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Quitting all social networks 4 years ago was the best gift I've ever given myself.

I urge you to do the same.

[–]mountainbiker1780 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

It's fairly easy to create a fake Facebook account, so if you want to participate in that group you could do so safely with a fake account.

What does this new Facebook group offer that redpill subreddits don't?

[–]helaughsinhidden[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Not much so far, except that it's getting a lot more conversations started.

[–]Balls_Wellington_1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Are they quality conversations? MRP especially curates the hell out of their content. It keeps the quality stuff from getting buried in hundreds of "My wife stayed out for 3 days and came home wearing only a mens t shirt she says nothing happened tho" posts

[–]helaughsinhidden[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

More on par with ASKTRP/ASKMRP so far. I feel like Rich, Rian, and Jon have a plan, but facebook's UI is just trash too.

[–]WolfofAllStreetz0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Fuck no. I use FB for work if I didn’t have it for that it would be long gone.

[–]tap09885340 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I don't post anything to the Web that can tie to me irl. I go to a cash kiosk to buy overpriced bitcoin for my vpn, which I route through separate vpn. If I was going to do an fb account, I would buy a phone validation with btc, and use mullvad tunneled through tor on a clean hardened vm where I had never logged into anything.

Tracking tech is very sophisticated. FB, reddit, and most sites can pin you if you ever logged into another site that shares info from the same browser, and sometimes even the same device . See panopticlick.eff.org

[–]helaughsinhidden[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

You must have evidence on Hillary Clinton or something?!

[–]Goobergus_Gubbins0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I'm impressed. I just try to not write anything online that would be highly troublesome if I got Doxxed.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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