How common are men like me? Are my views at odds with TRP or in agreement?

Electra_Cute · 2019-03-22T16:51:24+00:00

If you mean "unstable men who ask odd questions", there seems to be a lot of them on here.

TyroneTheDriver · 2019-03-22T17:51:18+00:00

I've never seen an AFC of this level before. We're reaching levels of beta that shouldn't even be possible.

diffdedbed · 2019-03-22T17:21:07+00:00

I'm not even sure what I just read. I don't mean that snarkely, I just don't know.

sadomasochrist · 2019-03-22T19:29:20+00:00

This is stereotypical, deep blue pill stuff. Borderline male feminist.

ThisIsJustATr1bute · 2019-03-22T17:47:40+00:00

I’m a little confused what specifically about your relational style you feel is different. Could you tl;dr or something?

P91XXX · 2019-03-22T17:52:53+00:00

I think this is called reciprosexual or something. It's a subcategory where sexual attraction relies on reciprocation: you're mostly only attracted if she makes it clear she's attracted to you.

planejane · 2019-03-22T18:20:35+00:00

IDK dude, I mean it's a bit convoluted but you at least seem to recognize women as...not NPCs, so that's cool. And at least around here that view is certainly uncommon.

Compared to people in the real world? Who knows. I used to think everybody else knew people generally recognized everybody else was the star of their own show with their own perspectives and motivations, but more and more I think that realization is less common than I thought and most folks are guilty of NPC-ification of everyone else.

boomcheese44 · 2019-03-22T18:43:37+00:00

Im a bit confused by what I just read, but it sounds like you are a very detached person and like the idea of yourself having all the power in an interaction. No healthy interaction with the opposite sex is so one-sided. I wouldnt necessarily say your views agree with TRP, but that you could do very well as a follower.

BirdManBrrrr · 2019-03-22T20:19:34+00:00

She is in absolute control of my desire, which gives me the power.

Wrong, and I'm not sure how you contorted yourself to come to that conclusion. She is in absolute control of your desire in which she has all the power, you have none. Every choice in the relationship is hers, and all you're doing is worshiping her on a pedestal. In more terper terms: you have zero frame for yourself and operate entirely in her frame. You are not your own mental point of origin.

tl;dr: you are at complete odds with TRP

Edit: To your title question, I used to be one of those guys who would let the woman lead, defer choices to her, try to keep her happy, etc. It was a pattern I had though multiple LTRs and my marriage, which all held the same template of failure, so similar you couldn't possibly make it up. My and many other men's experience would agree that women don't like men who don't lead and are not assertive. Seems to be a common link.

P91XXX · 2019-03-22T18:19:56+00:00

I think you're not really asking a question so much as advertising yourself/bragging, and you come off as really vain and self absorbed. Just my 2c.

blackedoutfast · 2019-03-22T20:33:06+00:00

i can't even understand wtf you're trying to say, but i'm pretty sure you're just trying to rationalize the fact that you are a bluepill beta

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Uncommon_Sensed_1234 · 2019-03-22T17:01:20+00:00

Geez that was long. You sound normal to me.

Rather than grasping at ideas to keep a girl, you have enough control over your emotional attachment to her to let her go once she is over you. You seem to accept that this relationship is temporary and chose to enjoy and accept its temporal nature rather then lock it down with terms of affection such as partner or GF.

Aaren_Augustine · 2019-03-22T17:18:31+00:00

Well, I think there's a certain amount of ownership a guys got to have in his relationship with women. We would all hope the woman your with will have your best interest in mind, but this isn't always the case.

What's the longest relationship you've ever been in? Who had the other's best interest in mind more than the other? Her or you?

TRP, at its core, is about men learning to take care of themselves.

Gravel_Roads · 2019-03-22T17:54:15+00:00

If all you're saying is "It's everyone's own responsibility to figure out how to enjoy their own lives", I'd say you're probably less common than the folks to try to make their pleasure someone else's responsibility.

Presumably as long as you're also applying this to yourself, and you're not one of those novice RedPill kids who thinks "girls are so boring why do they never say anything interesting??" without ever bothering to try and, y'know... take initiative and suggest a topic or activity, you're probably on the healthier side of the spectrum.

As for how common it is? It depends mostly on who you're hanging out with. Some social groups have very little patient for passivity, so you'll find more people with initiative. Some social groups are ALL passive and they'll all waste a lot of time asking one another "so what do you wanna do?" "I dunno. What do you wanna do?"

douchebag_throwaway3 · 2019-03-22T18:18:08+00:00

No, this type of man is not common.

Most men chase what they can't have and pine endlessly at their oneitis crush and get depressed that she "loves him like her brother" while fucking her douchebag boyfriend.

exit_sandman · 2019-03-22T21:20:45+00:00

Doesn't sound codependent at all

rus9384 · 2019-03-23T00:59:29+00:00

She is in absolute control of my desire, which gives me the power.

No, man. The one who is in control has the power. It gives her the power. You should have measures to control her control of your desire. Then you will have power.

If she loses interest, so do I. I would not want to be where I was not wanted.

This is how I avoided oneitis.

Well, idiots here confuse knowledge with goals. RP gives knowledge, but you yourself choose goals. To be honest, RP gives misknowledge as well.

You want a girl who likes you so you seek that. And RP gives advices (sometimes bad) how to make a girl like you (more).

Whether you really want to count yourself RP? I don't understand the obsession. The rational stance is to never affilate yourself by 100% with any position and always have a feeling of doubt.

Men like you are pretty common, that is what men want from women on top of sex. Yeah, even those men who want more than one woman.

billybones11 · 2019-03-23T10:11:53+00:00

Cuckolds? They're pretty common.

Taipanshimshon · 2019-03-23T14:40:42+00:00

Basically in agreement other than you joining her.

Reframe another way - she may introduce you to a new thing but as a man it’s up to you to decide if it’s something you want to do for you with her. Not for her.

Small difference but important

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P91XXX · 2019-03-22T19:03:57+00:00

Bro, I cannot understand the post. In which drugs did you write this? Are you a non native english speaker too?

ScootsScoots · 2019-03-22T18:19:53+00:00

Men who think too much instead of just doing what they want and leading are everywhere.

Sir_Koopaman · 2019-03-22T20:15:27+00:00

Unfortunately, chumps like you are very common. You're not unique nor special, but that's not exactly a good thing. I suggest taking some agency and deciding what you want; if you want to be friends, then be friends. If you want a relationship, then be open about it, and if she says no move on and find another girl.

How common are men like me? Are my views at odds with TRP or in agreement?

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Title	How common are men like me? Are my views at odds with TRP or in agreement?
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