Q4ALL: Do the top guys on TRP actually get girls?

exit_sandman · 2017-06-08T12:13:48+00:00

I sincerely don't know. Probably not like GLO.
Your brother is vastly exaggerating, the amount of time most guys put into the sub is perfectly compatible with having the time to pursue an active sex life.
Some? Probably. Most? I doubt it.
Depends on your definition of psychologically well-balanced. On the one hand: according to a RP definition, certainly not, according to the WaW-induced BP definition (where for some reason only 3% of women are nuts while the other 97% are perfect) definitely. On the other hand, bluepillers would call submissive women who respond positively to RP strategies dysfunctional and damaged while this trait is something that TRP considers perfectly natural behavior.
Quite a lot. Even if 99% of women would reject you for arbitrary matters, all you need is filter out the 1% who respond positively to you. What you need, however, is the patience to filter them out (and the balls/stomach to face a lot of rejection).
Response similar to (4)
All? Nope. But women who are hot and well-balanced are an incredibly rare commodity and they can certainly afford to aim high.
He's entertaining. And genuinely helpful. He certainly does more than those sanctimonious holier-than-thou pricks at TBP who supposedly are better people ever did.
Archwinger. Best content combined with a scathing sense of humor.

TheGreasyPole · 2017-06-08T07:11:29+00:00

The ones who actually go out there and practice the theory by learning game and becoming confident socially and lifting and all that jazz probably do alright. The field reports are fanfiction but I mean they probably don't do too bad.

The ones who just sit around jerking about the theories on the sub all day are much more likely to fit your sister's stereotype up there.

TheGreasyPole · 2017-06-08T07:59:53+00:00

The usual variety of manhood, with a trend to the average and slightly below (naturally) but slightly above (post RP)
Much more than they did before
Guys who start from a decent position and do our stuff ? Yeah, consistently. Guys who start from a poor position, yeah but not consistently. Guys who read our stuff but DO nothing ? They're exactly where they started
Yes, as far as I can see our stuff works on all girls (more or less). I'd say any girl is only likely to be 80% succeptibke to one thing, but we have so many things that 95% are succeptible to many of our things.
I'd say most guys can add a point of SMV easily, and another point with some extended effort. Those starting from a poor position might be able to add 3pts with a heroic effort. Enough to make a BIG difference to their QoL
Same as above. It works as well on the psychologically balanced as the mentally strange. The mentally strange are just easier to get overall though (for non RP and RP guys).
If you start above average in looks, and have social skills... RP can easily make you super hot and super cool. That's probably beyond the guys in the worst starting positions, but even they can improve their sex lives dramatically even if they never reach"super" levels.
I like him. Funny guy. Also actually helps lots of guys that need it, puts in his personal time for 1-2-1s with guys who need advice on lifting. He's a trolley asshole on the outside, but genuinely a pleasant guy on the inside who spends a lot of time stretching his hand down and pulling up guys who grasp the outstretched hand. And he is funny. That covers a multitude of sins in my eyes.
Me, my posts are easily the best. After that... Atlas, never seen her give bad advice to a chick... WhineMorePleae on MRP (although I understand he has a new nic) and jacktenofhearts... fiat_lux and alreadyredschoool are good posters here. I never browsed TRP much. I was always more MRP then PPD (being married).

alreadyredschool · 2017-06-08T06:43:31+00:00

Is it really that hard to believe that if you follow the advice you get laid more often?

People also seem to be pretty retarded regarding this, it's not like you blindly believe the stuff, you compare it to your life/observations, you test stuff, you tweak stuff.

If the blue side could entertain the idea that trp works the discussion would make more progress. Accusations of misogyny don't work -we know ourself better than you, accusations of it not working are useless too because we see and feel stuff, we have real life experience which won't be argued away with weird hypothetical rhetoric. BP sees the horrible accusations thrown at women (misogyny) and ignores the practical, pragmatic benefit of the men. All arguments that don't look at that are bound to fail.
Saying that it just works on insecure immature stupid girls isn't constructive either since we are the ones knowing those women. Saying that it's common sense isn't advancing the discussion either. This sub exists since ~3 years, empirical data shows that this doesn't work, try something new.

We can't know these guys, they could be lying. But if they actually spend time becoming hotter, socialising and flirting, consciously making an effort regarding pick ups do you think they will have more success than before?

prodigy2throw · 2017-06-08T12:54:22+00:00

The only way for sure to know this is to go out in the real world and see who is successful with women and what behaviours they have.

Maybe a lot of it is fan fiction but maybe a lot is real. Who knows. All I know is when I act in a way that is consistent with Red Pill teachings, I do way better with women and the women around me are having way more fun and are much happier. So I stick to it.

Merger-Arbitrage · 2017-06-08T14:16:19+00:00

3: Do you think that they actually consistently pull HB7+ hot girls? 4: Do you think that they actually consistently pull HB7+ hot girls who are psychologically well-balanced? My brother suggested that even if their game works on some hot girls, these girls are likely not the most balanced

This stuff is hilarious - makes my day. Apparently, there's some universal rating system that everyone seems to be in on that also rubs off on the intellectual capabilities and personalities of the involved women! My mind is blown!

badnews4u · 2017-06-08T15:52:31+00:00

does it really matter? shit works or it doesnt. who gives a shit. patrice o neal, bill burr are more red than blue and they pulled and offered advice

abicus4343 · 2017-06-08T18:14:03+00:00

There is a reason guys are drawn to the red pill and it's not because they are drowning in pussy.

Love8Death · 2017-06-08T06:32:23+00:00

hot girls who are psychologically well-balanced?

Stopped reading here.

Without knowing what you mean by "psychologically well-balanced", it is impossible to answer your question. Many BPers here say any girl that likes dominant guys or that likes any sort of ass-holeish behavior is damaged or not mentally sound. A lot of nerdy or BP types also think any party girl is not psychologically sound or broken. Again, need to know what your intention is behind choosing those words.

However,

How much ass do you think they actually pull? They talk a big game. My brother made this comment:

Given that successful people with 59 girlfriends don't have time to write 4 page daily Reddit rants, I recommend taking everything you read on there with a grain of salt.

That isn't exactly true. I didn't use reddit when i was a frat bro in college but I do now since I am working as an accountant.

My rule is this, anything TRP says that sounds outlandish is probably false. An example of this is a field report i saw by a 41 year old who just got divorced and said he banged 3 college girls in 22 hours, all whom he never met before.

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Hairbrainer · 2017-06-08T11:52:55+00:00

I think those top endorsed contributors do get some women on occasion for fuckbuddies and nothing more. I think part of that would have to do with the women themselves only looking to fuck them for a bit, not necessarily the men only looking to fuck them for a bit.

However, in most cases I don't think either party would settle with the other one.

[deleted] · 2017-06-08T13:03:48+00:00

1: What do you think that all the top TRP guys actually look like?

The ones Ive seen have all looked pretty decent.

2: How much ass do you think they actually pull? They talk a big game. My brother made this comment:

Given that successful people with 59 girlfriends don't have time to write 4 page daily Reddit rants, I recommend taking everything you read on there with a grain of salt.

It feels like quite a lot of posts are exaggerated or embellished. I dont pay too much attention to the field reports for this reason. Then again, I live in Asia so the cultural gap is quite wide at the moment. I'll offer my own experience - I was juggling different girls a while back and it was draining. Constant Tinder and then IMs, then dates involving alcohol and a bit of travel, then creating the chance to seal the deal. Going out on the town looking for fresh girls. It was doable but very tiring. The red pill preaches getting fit and working hard, and I was also doing those things so I didnt have much free time at all. It became a chore. This was just with my particular lifestyle so I couldnt speak for everybody, but I suspect that juggling more than 2 or 3 at a time would be too much of a time drain.

4: Do you think that they actually consistently pull HB7+ hot girls who are psychologically well-balanced?

Yeah, your brother is doing what blue posters love to do which is disqualify anyone associated with RP. If theyre women who like RP types then they must be psychologically damaged for getting into a fuckbuddy type thing. If the conversation turns to RPers wanting a loyal woman to follow him then they start on about women's freedoms. You cant win.

5: In 2017, how far above your looks-class can well-honed game actually allow men to punch?

It's all subjective.

6: In 2017, how far above your looks-class can well-honed game actually allow men to punch with psychologically well-balanced women?

In 2017, women are free to do what they want sexualy and enjoy sleeping around if they so choose. Judging them to be unstable for doing so is out of order, and repressive.

7: Aren’t all the hot and psychologically well-balanced women going to fuck (and date) the guys who are both (1) super hot and (2) super cool, and no amount of game can change that reality?

Game = being super cool no? I know people for some reason want to believe that you either have it or you dont, but being a cool dude is a learned thing.

mcr00sterdota · 2017-06-08T13:24:24+00:00

Hard to tell. It's the internet and everyone is anonymous.

goatismycopilot · 2017-06-08T13:38:54+00:00

Let's see, don't have a favourite TRP poster, never spent much time thinking about Glo, I think probably a few TRP dudes nail attractive women and the rest of them are bullshitting.

[deleted] · 2017-06-08T15:36:09+00:00

What do you think that all the top TRP guys actually look like?

Gods among men.

How much ass do you think they actually pull?

However much they say they do. Why would we lie about that? Reddit's Karma points?

My brother made this comment:

Who among us even posts 4 pages daily or claims to have 59 girlfriends? Get you another grain of salt for his bullshit too.

My brother made an even more retarded comment:

Yeah, we pick up women from mental health facilities. Let me know if he wants a job at one. I'll put in a good word. He sounds like an expert and all.

Do you think that they actually consistently pull HB7+ hot girls?

Is that supposed to be some kind of feat now? Yes, the best looking and smartest among us have ordinary social interactions that have been done billions of times before us. Fucking crazy, right?

In 2017, how far above your looks-class can well-honed game actually allow men to punch?

I don't know. I look amazing.

Aren’t all the hot and psychologically well-balanced women going to fuck (and date) the guys who are both (1) super hot and (2) super cool, and no amount of game can change that reality?

My firsthand experience says yes and that "super cool" and "amount of game" are synonymous.

roseria97 · 2017-06-08T16:44:11+00:00

Yeah they're all drowning in pussy

ppdthrowawai · 2017-06-08T19:03:44+00:00

Ehhh, speaking for the top posters, who knows? Speaking for myself here:

Below average height, athletic build, well dressed, attractive face.
I dont have time for reddit rants. I found that time was a much more limiting factor than women. Only had time for about 4 girls a week.
Ya
Ya. This is one of my biggest disagreements with TBP. I think RP works worst on insecure girls. It works best on women who need little hand-holding.
2-3 points of SMV. More in exceptional cases.
Same answer.
No, women often vet their partners based on the tingles and their perception of whether youre "a good guy." Note that this perception often has little to do with whether or not you're actually a good person, hence the point of RP. If it was straight forward, all the good personality, decent looking men would be swimming in pussy instead of the occasional here and there fling. Instead it's mostly attractive men with game and wildly varying levels of douchiness.
I dont think about him at all
Dont have any but i think I've upvoted alreadyred more times than I can count.

[deleted] · 2017-06-08T19:18:53+00:00

I reckon it's not too different from when I messed with PUA. The successful ones were already super good looking and can get away with dumb shit. They eventually all become gurus. Matador for example, came from Mystery Method. Guy looks like a Native American rockstar.

But probably 98% of them are just keyboard cowboys. Talking tough, making up FRs and going halfway down on Benchpress.

breakfasttopiates · 2017-06-08T21:57:34+00:00

I'd say naturally RP guys are getting the most of anyone. Then comes naturally RP guys who are RP in actions and BP in their ideals. Then non-natural RP'ers then the damned non-natural BP'ers are the lowest totem

void_magic · 2017-06-08T21:59:50+00:00

The ones that are attractive do.

[deleted] · 2017-06-08T22:38:00+00:00

No-one's on TRP because they're happy and well-adjusted that's just not how insular internet subcultures work.

sadomasochrist · 2017-06-09T12:52:41+00:00

I'm just going to address the heart of your arguments here.

It works
Personality disordered women come in all flavors, and not all of them respond to red or blue pill. What you're talking about is called "an attachment disorder." Read into that to understand what a "damaged" woman is.
Frame is paramount, game is paramount.
Women decide arbitrarily what they're into, that day, that moment. Basically, be that moment.

Relax_ItsJustAPhase · 2017-06-11T21:32:49+00:00

I don't know if they manage to seduce any women with that sort of nonsense, but not me, in any case.

Eastuss · 2017-06-08T07:04:55+00:00

GayLubeOil endorsed contributor has more of a woodcutter look and I'm pretty sure that's an attractive kind of look. And you quote this guy so I don't even get where your post comes from.

But you know, what your sister and brother say isn't going to make TRP filled with neckbeards incels just because they said it.

Shit post.

funny_lyfe · 2017-06-08T07:00:18+00:00

This question is impossible to answer. Do I actually know about the personal lives of random posters? Or even semi famous ones?

I can only speak about myself. I can get women when I want. Online, I'll talk to a few HB7-8 girls every month. I get constant interest from 6-7's on the couple of dating sites I am on. Most of these women feel sane to me.

I am also currently dating 3 women. A lot of your questions are more around PUA sounding game. The prettiest girl I know has a ugly ass boyfriend (at best 5-6), and she is a solid 8.5. He is certainly using game, TRP on her. So I've seen it happen in real life.

I don't pull a lot of ass, but that also has to do with motivation. If I try I could be pulling a constant stream of attractive women.

Title	Q4ALL: Do the top guys on TRP actually get girls?
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