Is Soc Jus disrespect for other people's relationships hypocritical?

c_in_macn · 2016-08-04T16:09:53+00:00

Some SJWs dislike BDSM, in tumblr it's like 50/50.

Do they really care if men take steroids? I've never seen any SJW talk about it.

I think they're issue with interracial is only when the Asians are "fetishized".

Relationships were the age gap is large and the man is very wealthy

I've never seen it.

BDSM (even if it's dangerous

BDSM is not meant to be dangerous, their motto is safe,sane, consensual.

GridReXX · 2016-08-04T17:03:11+00:00

Men who take steroids

Do people outside of sports and bodybuilding care?

I assumed steroids ended up damaging your body? Which would be the only reason I wouldn't want people I know abusing them.

Relationships where the man is dominant, but where the nature of relationship has not been defined as being the result of a kink or ''BDSM'' in nature

No one cares as long as the woman seems happy.

I remember as a child I stayed at my cousin's house in Virginia. Very traditional and old school family dynamic, though both the husband and wife worked full-time.

My cousin was cooking breakfast for us all.

Her husband yelled "Goddammit Sharon! If you don't hurry up and cook this damn bacon!" And he stomped off angrily.

Eight year old me remembers thinking these things:

1) Omg he's like a big kid with a temper tantrum.
2) Omg how embarrassing for cousin Sharon that he speaks to her like that and especially in front of company. Like she looked so embarrassed. And she's a meek person, so it made me feel even worse because she wasn't going to stand up for herself.
3) Omg make your own damn bacon and fucking help her cook asshole. It's not like you're the primary breadwinner and even if you were that would still be assholish.
4) I'm never entering a relationship like this.

So yeah, sure, have your dominant male relationship, but people are going to talk shit on it if it looks like an asshole relationship, which many of them do.

edit

She divorced him several years ago. He didn't see it coming. He cried. Everyone had to tell him, "Well, dude you were kind of a bitch the entire marriage."

Princeso_Bubblegum · 2016-08-04T18:26:53+00:00

Yeah, such a strawman would be hypocritical, nice observation.

[deleted] · 2016-08-05T11:56:59+00:00

This is because SJWs feel threatened when white men pursue more feminine women, because western women no longer provide the traits men seek in a wife. Never mind the sexualization of black men - which is probably greater than the sexualization of asian women. It's fine, because men enjoy being sexualized. No sexism or stereotypes here. Quite ironic in my opinion. However I'd also like to point out some SJWs in recent times are actually against the sexualization of black men, but far from most. In the end it seems they simply do not care about sexualization of men.
This one boggles me the most, why would anyone want to be in a relationship with someone unstable? I believe they feel like the woman is being used by the richer man, which very well may be the case, but then you need to remember women value money a lot, or else they wouldn't be in these kind of relationships to begin with.
This is also bothering me - just like a trans person may want to be the opposite gender, a man who want to be more of a man is seen as a freak. This, again, might be because SJWs naturally feel like masculinity is something bad, but only if a man does it. If a woman acts more masculine she's empowered.

ProbablyBelievesIt · 2016-08-04T15:58:04+00:00

People under the age of 18 taking hormones to change their gender

Better than allowing random chance to decide which you'll receive.

BDSM (even if it's dangerous and humiliating for the woman)

Is she into dangerous and humiliating? Does she take safety precautions? How do you feel about the dangers to her partners?

White man, Asian woman

Some people don't like being just a collection of racial stereotypes to their loved ones. Other people are judgmental assholes who can't see a relationship between the two in any other way. See how easy it is, to do this, when you take away the political labels judgmental assholes hide behind?

Relationships were the age gap is large and the man is very wealthy

Is the older partner aware of the extra responsibilities in dealing with someone who can't plan ahead, as well as he can? Who lacks experience, and possibly even sound judgement?

Is she in this for him, or for the money?

Is it a relationship, or predator and prey? Loved ones will be cautious, judgmental assholes will see what they want to see.

steroids

Why is it a sin, in the alt-right, to die by eating too much, and not by steroid? Is it less a concern for health, and more about reducing reality to a living image board?

Relationships where the man is dominant, but where the nature of relationship has not been defined as being the result of a kink or ''BDSM'' in nature

If it's a healthy one?

The problem is judgmental assholes.

Some are judging the relationship, some are judging everyone in any other type.

Again, trying to find logical consistency among the worst of us is a self defeating proposition. I used to spend way too much time worrying about how my relationships were seen here, and it was all a bloody waste of thought. And anyone in a traditional relationship that allows you both to be where you want to be, right now, have fun too.

There's far more useful things to worry about.

FairlyNaive · 2016-08-04T16:02:58+00:00

Yeah, ive heard numerous people who previously claimed that anything between consenting adults is their business and should not be judged by outsiders, say really nasty things about Shoe and Skeptic relationship.

Entropy-7 · 2016-08-04T19:36:05+00:00

SJWs are generally against male-dom/woman-sub BDSM but tend to approve of any other combination.

EliteSpartanRanger · 2016-08-04T22:43:19+00:00

I don't identify as a SJW, but I do identify as a feminist, and I think that the terms here are used interchangeably for the most part so here's my answers from my perspective

White man, Asian woman

Feminism doesn't have a problem with white man and Asian woman relationships. They have a problem with white men fetishizing Asian women as submissive and domestic housewives because it's not OK to stereotype an entire group and fetishize a race/ethnicity.

Relationships were the age gap is large and the man is very wealthy

There's no problem with this type of relationship itself, but this type of arrangement could cause a few problems that are correlated but not causal. Most feminists don't have a problem with a large age gap in the relationship in itself, and most feminists don't have a problem with wealthy men marrying who they want to, just like they believe that the rest of the population have the right to marry who they want to. It's the problems correlated with these types of relationships that feminists don't like. For example, manipulation. A lot of times, there's a power imbalance in these relationships because the woman is dependent on the wealthy man for money, which means that the man can get away with having affairs, not respecting his wife, etc.

Men who take steroids

I've never seen this mentioned at all in SJW/feminist websites, blog posts, books, publications.

Relationships where the man is dominant, but where the nature of relationship has not been defined as being the result of a kink or ''BDSM'' in nature

I think there's no problem if the man and the woman agree to the traditional captain/first mate relationship as long as they both choose this relationship dynamic. Most feminists in this discussion seem to agree with this.

LittleRedBirdie · 2016-08-05T15:02:44+00:00

Is fetishisation of East Asian women really a thing?

I've only ever seen the accusation used by people who are looking for a ''legitimate'' reason to disapprove of WM/AF relationships.

As long as all parties are consenting adults, no-one is being coerced, and no third-party is being harmed, then it's absolutely nobody's business about the hows and whys of a relationship.

Noxin__Nixon · 2016-08-05T19:44:02+00:00

it's that there are people who exist who think that a load of 16 year old boys having a homosexual gangbang at public school is completely acceptable, but a 16 year old girl with a 20 year old man is wrong.

Can you link me to an actual example of this?

ozymandias271 · 2016-08-04T16:44:05+00:00

Okay I've been on TiA since forever (I made it) and I'm on speed so I think I'm qualified for this one.

Under "SJW approved":

Certain interracial relationships

SJWs fall into two camps: either do not approve of any interracial relationships or don't care. The ones who do care are against all of them because of "cultural appropriation."

Their ideas on this are pretty much identical to the KKK except they think the white people are inferior and everyone else (the "people of colour" - fuck I hate that term) is superior. But the actual outcome is the same thing. They don't like race mixing.

Same-sex relationships

Correct, you have this one.

People under the age of 18 taking hormones to change their gender

Yep this too.

BDSM (even if it's dangerous and humiliating for the woman)

Nope. They only like femdom because it's "smashing traditional gender roles/the patriarchy." They do not approve of men being dominant or women being submissive at all.

Under "social sins":

White man, Asian woman

Like I said above, SJWs who hate on interracial relationships hate on all of them.

Relationships were the age gap is large and the man is very wealthy

For age gaps it really depends on how much of one there is, what the ages are, and what the context is.

SJWs however 100% approve of taking money from old rich guys. This is something else they see as an act of rebellion "smashing the patriarchy" etc.

Men who take steroids

Never seen a SJW take any serious strong view on this one way or the other.

Relationships where the man is dominant, but where the nature of relationship has not been defined as being the result of a kink or ''BDSM'' in nature

They would be against this even if it was defined as BDSM.

SJWs have even literally argued that women are unable to consent to being submissive in BDSM relationships at all so maledom = rape all the time.

Hope that clears it up, ask if you got questions fam.

shoup88 · 2016-08-04T16:55:55+00:00

Not sure I agree with your characterization of what's good/bad, but is it really hypocritical to approve of one thing but not another? Is it hypocritical of me to wear pants but dislike shorts? After all, they're both items of clothing.

It would make for a better argument if you said "SJWs preach acceptance of any and all relationships, but vocally disapprove of white men/Asian woman".

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ThrowawayCactus6012 · 2016-08-04T16:42:26+00:00

Is Soc Jus disrespect for other people's relationships hypocritical?

Yes, probably - at least for those who hold to these hypocritical double standards. I'm not sure why SJWs would care so much about other people's relationships. I'm also not sure why anyone else cares that much about what SJWs think anyway.

Meterus · 2016-08-05T07:42:35+00:00

Aww, SJW's are just Blue Pills that have been dropped on their heads as babies, trolls with nothing better to do than crybully.

Title	Is Soc Jus disrespect for other people's relationships hypocritical?
Author	yo_radical_one
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Date	August 4, 2016 3:29 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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