EDIT: Yes meant to just put SM but my phone autocorrected it to SMV

Reading this sub has opened my eyes to both sides, the different pills, different genders. Haven't gone to the RP sub and only went to the bluepill sub once so please correct me if I'm wrong on a few talking points.

Onto the argument at hand. Yes women have their issues and inequities, but even then I'd prefer to be a "disadvantaged" woman than a disadvantaged man in most cases. You may be confused at what I mean, I'll explain:

•Height is an issue of attractiveness I see debated all the time here. The red pill side of it is that you should kill yourself if you're below 6'0 (yeah I'm exaggerating just roll with it) but girls can be literally any height. The blue pill responds with girls saying that guys prefer short girls because they feel manlier that way, and that being 5'10-11 is rough. The red pill side I feel is exaggerated and overly fatalistic (as per usual), and maybe there are incidents where being tall is trouble for a girl but I lean the red pill here. I'd rather be a 5'11 or 6'0 girl than a 5'6-7 man any day of the week, I might pick it over being 5'9 man even. In my experience there is a girl in my school that's 6'2 and another that's 5'1, both of them are considered 9-10/10s and virtually every guy would. If a guy is below 5'9-10... He better be flawless in virtually in every other way to be considered a top tier guy (every top tier guy in my experience is at least 5'10 if he's not moneyed).

Some BP and women will act like it's not even a thought in a girl's head. I refuse to accept that. I'm 6'0 and never met a girl who didn't respond well to my height when it comes to online flirting and chatting, a few were more neutral about it but that's because they were 5'10-11 themselves. I've seen several tinder profiles flat out saying "if you're below 6'0 don't even bother".

Point is, maybe being a 6'4+ girl isn't a good go of it, but women are allowed a wider range of height than men. It's at a point where being a 6'1 girl (far above average) is better than being a 5'6-7 guy (a little below the average 5'9).

•Body count: Yeah yeah world's smallest violin for slut shaming. Sorry if I sound like a massive dick, I do actually feel sympathy for girls shamed for being promiscuous. I personally don't care if a girl is promiscuous per se, and I have a "take what I can get" policy when it comes to girls for the most part so it's not even a deal breaker, I just feel worse for incel men. The red pill doesn't like to admit this, but their signs of evaluating a girls body count will only get them so far. A girl you'd think would have a low one can have one just as high as the girl working the corner. Being an inexperienced male is something you could hide well, but not forever. When it comes down to the main event...if you lack experience it will show and it will hurt you (or at least more likely to hurt you) more than if you're a girl. I've heard some girls online say they like taking guy's V-card and think inexperience cute, and I'm sure they exist, but it's not the prevailing opinion by any stretch. I'd rather be a slut, even a public one, than an incel man (no matter how much I don't seem like one).

•Body image and pressure to be good looking: Is the pressure higher on women? Yes. Is it more expected out of women? Yes. But it's overall harder on men. Women are given boobs, most of them that just attract men immensely without needing workout or surgery. Some have naturally great asses, but most girls can get a pretty decent ass with some squats (no intense training needed). Men's...parts don't attract women anywhere near the same level, and it requires a lot more work to get anywhere close.

Girls: Here is your body, don't get fat (eat salad instead of fries), maybe some light cardio and decent diet to stay tone and squats for the ass. Should be able to get a guy, even a pretty decent one maybe, at your house within the hour regardless of the circumstances.

Guys: You're not fat? Congrats! You're 5% of the way there. Time to workout, not just running to keep the fat off, lift to add some on. And eating is more than just eating salad instead of fries, you have to force yourself to eat protein, a lot of it. You don't have to be super Arnold big, but the point remains...harder workouts, harder diet, harder to maintain, if you want to be generally attractive.

To add to that point, makeup is a complaint that girls feel like they "have to do", and maybe it is a chore. But I've seen makeup turn 3s into 7s, and it generally increases attractiveness by a point or two. I'd love to have a cheat like that.

Point is, I'd rather start out as a girl that's 75LB overweight than a guy who is skinny (even if he is tone). Because..I am a skinny guy (just under 150LB) and even though I am pretty tone I'm still far from being considered generally appealing. I've gained..like a pound of muscle..maybe two...in the past two months of doing this even when I'm eating what I'm supposed to and doing the programs. Keeping tone while focusing on bulk is also a balancing act. I have a female friend that's lost a lot of weight in the same time frame. She is way closer to the goal than I am despite her having "cheat days" where I have none of it (except banana bread on Easter). Needless to say I'm peanut butter and jealous

•Demeanor: This kinda ties into the bodycount thing a little bit but I feel it's worth being a separate point. The red pill is all about escaping the plight of the beta male and all the disadvantages it carries with, and while they exaggerate as always and maybe their solutions aren't the way to go, they have their finger on the pulse in regard to the problems of the weak and unassertive doormat men of the world. The blue pill responds with it being hard to be an assertive headstrong woman, and there's truth to that I'm sure. Yes being a man makes it more acceptable to be headstrong, take what you want, maybe even being dickish. These are valid complaints...but I can't help but feeling like being a headstrong go getter independent woman is still better than being a submissive beta cuck. Yeah the bitchy girl will get more flack, but will still get more of what she wants out of life even if she isn't a man acting this way. This rings true to aspects of life like education, business, etc but I feel like it's definitely true in the case of the SMV

To conclude, women may have their problems and disadvantages in the SMV, world of dating and fucking, but I find men have it harder overall and their problems have more weight. These are just 3 points, I'm too tired to write out more but I will try to respond to criticisms.