Marriage is Declining Because Women Are Pigs

czerdec · 2016-03-26T20:20:59+00:00

Basically, an awful lot of women are—and always have been—volatile and unreliable. They drink, they get abusive, and they do stupid stuff. They're bad with money, they don't help with the kids, and they don't help around the house. They demand subservience. They demand sex. And even on the one dimension they're supposedly good for—being breadwinners—they frequently tend to screw up and get fired.

I'm guessing this is from some feminist tract from the early 1990s with the genders switched.

Littleknownfacts · 2016-03-26T20:25:37+00:00

It's funny that you say marriage is declining, except for among the college educated. But the demographic of college educated is growing, no? So get on board with getting more people educated and marriage will be a better deal overall.

vandaalen · 2016-03-26T20:30:27+00:00

Women were always pigs and always will be.

It's the men who fucked up and allowed women to freely follow their nature and it lead up to the point where now women even demand to be pigs without being handled as such, to get away without having to face consequences, and the majority of men are willing to let them.

It is our fault and it will be unless we decide to take things back into our own hands.

DaphneDK · 2016-03-27T00:51:32+00:00

Is marriage really declining. Or just put off a few years. Before people tended to marry in their early 20s. Now at 30. Also some people are just not as religious any more, and are happy living together and have children without ever being married (Is marriage outdated in Iceland?).

DrunkGirl69 · 2016-03-26T22:00:34+00:00

Your view is very one sided. Do you think men are perfect angels?

Why do you think marriage is declining?

Because it's no longer required. Simple as that. Marriage as an expression of love is a relatively modern concept. Throughout history it's always been a tool for exchanging property and consolidating wealth. But it's completely outgrown that purpose and it's now easy to have a relationship without marriage.

Asking if men or women are "at fault" for marriage rates falling is really asking the wrong question. The question to ask is how has society developed past the point where marriage is a requirement anymore? Well everyone gets jobs and doesn't require a partner for wealth now.

This also explains why the upper classes still marry at high rates. Old money is still concerned with the issues outlined above. But they're far from a majority.

dakru · 2016-03-26T20:22:29+00:00

With the flair "discussion", this violates our rule on neutral titles. One option would be to remove the thread, but instead I've changed the flair to "CMV", which does allow titles like this.

[deleted] · 2016-03-26T21:30:53+00:00

Poasting > marriage

[deleted] · 2016-03-27T00:09:20+00:00

College educated isn't what it used to be

CuddleLumpkin · 2016-03-26T20:05:56+00:00

Men are just as shit

Apexk9 · 2016-03-26T20:25:32+00:00

The problem is from past experiences. A bad relationship experience can leave a person jaded and that changes their perspective for every future correspondence and sets people up to fail.

winndixie · 2016-03-26T21:47:55+00:00

and they've been willing—slowly but steadily—to change their habits and help out with kids and housework

Not from what is posted online, women are insulted to do housework.

[deleted] · 2016-03-27T00:33:14+00:00

I am glad you acknowledge not all women are bad wives.

But I gotta be fair....

But there's one exception to this: the college educated. Well-educated women are fairly reliable; they have good earning power; they generally aren't abusive; and they've been willing—slowly but steadily—to change their habits and help out with kids and housework. For college-educated men, then, marriage is a relatively good deal. For everyone else, not so much.

I have met MANY college-educated women who were crazy psycho demanding wives . And terrible mothers as well. Think twice. XOXO, a college-educated woman who has college-educated friends.

ETA - I have a friend who is a MD who once told me in the most natural tone: "I love my kids' nanny so much. One day she told me my son's hair was long and that he needed a haircut. She's such a good observant."

I thought "WOW. YOU DON'T EVEN LOOK AT YOUR OWN SON. You don't even know YOUR OWN SON NEEDS A HAIRCUT. What a great mother you are!!!"

And the most disturbing thing about it is that she actually didn't realize what a horrible mother she is. She told me this fact as if it was a great thing. I felt sorry for her.

[deleted] · 2016-03-27T00:53:24+00:00

I'd really love to see the statistics on the rate of women losing their jobs, drinking, and bifurcation on attitudes towards raising children between women with a degree and women without degrees. I ran an ANOVA table on SPSS of the 2008 GSS but nothing was statistically significant.

[deleted] · 2016-03-27T02:01:53+00:00

This is that shitty feminist article with the genders flipped right? Don't sink to that level.

user6688 · 2016-03-27T02:33:01+00:00

I think you're wrong in saying women are pigs. I know a lot of wealthy women, many of which out earning their husbands.

There are a lot of "pig" like women, and there's and equal amount of "pig" like men to accompany them.

I do agree that there is no good reason to get married if you're a man. If you marry you are giving her half your shit, a large portion of your paycheck and full custody of any children you have in the future.

If she outearns you then she will not make a good mother.

Only marry heavily religious womens. The fear of god straightens them out.

caesarfecit · 2016-03-27T06:40:12+00:00

Marriage is declining because it's a choice today.

For basically up until the 20th century, only high class women divorced or stayed single by choice. And women needed marriage more than men. Marriage for a long long time meant a roof over your head, food on your table, not having to give birth in a ditch, and some measure of protection and social standing.

And for a man, it meant you didn't have to go begging for pussy, you had someone to help with the upkeep of life, the same person paying attention to your kids, and not having to worry if she's gonna leave you, generally speaking.

Now women don't need to depend on a man for any of those things. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

The problem is, we as a society haven't fully processed that change.

Marriage still has a place in this world, to provide a stable environment to raise children. I'm not knocking single parents, one less bad parent is better than one less parent, but nobody can say with a straight face that's the ideal.

The problem is, relationships have less inertia to hold them together now, so relationships have to be both designed better and built better to last. And we're still a long ways from figuring that out. But I think the know the secret to relationships that go the distance versus ones that don't.

People change. It's a fact of life. And that change puts strain on relationships as time goes on. You both get older, your personalities change, and your relationship changes. And if you're not careful, those changes aren't for the better, and where you were once compatible, you aren't anymore.

Relationships are a weird interplay of chemistry and compatibility. The chemistry comes your differences, the compatibility comes from your similarities. In a good relationship, you'll both lift your spouse up and help them evolve, but also balance them out. Relationships that go the distance are relationships that change the two people in it for the better.

energyvolley · 2016-03-27T07:42:02+00:00

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Hodensack666 · 2016-05-08T19:02:36+00:00

That article by Kevin Drum - obviously Mother Jone's misandric mangina - is absolutely reprehensive !

Unbelivable ! If anything, the article and ggender should be reversedn and adjustied to "Marriage Is Declining Because WOMEN Are Pigs" to actually match reality !

Just replace "men" with "women" and the article ready correctly and reflects pretty precisely reality.

I thing Mangina Kevin Drum's motivation to write that filth is some psychological coping mechanism; Probably he find's himself in the gender-reversed situation, and his mind tries to cope mangina-style be projecting from his woman and his situation away to the other-other - men - so that he must no longer see his very own man-slave situation that he is to weak to face.

[deleted] · 2016-03-26T20:26:56+00:00

Marriage is declining for a lot of reasons. You can't just pinpoint it down to a single reason; there's a convergence of factors and variables and changes happening in real-time synchronisation, some at a very "macro-" level, that are causing this shift away from old-school matrimony.

For the record, I'm totally happy marriage is being consigned to the dustbin of history, to use an (in)famous Marxist phrase. As guys get older (and this has nothing to do with TRP), most realize that exchanging vows with a female is a societal prerequisite for the stability of society as a whole; if you were/are an outsider who was treated accordingly, it's practically your duty to ensure that society starts snowballing into a morass of anxiety, fear, hopelessness, anger, and intergender disharmony.

I'm at that age where I'm seeing some of my female peers unravel at the seams: one was recently placed on a 72-hour psychiatric hold for a "nervous breakdown" (I know the real reason, and despite her attempts to feign victimhood, I think deep down inside, she does too). Cuu-ckoo, cuckoo, say the psych med dispensaries.

[deleted] · 2016-03-26T23:29:38+00:00

They're tired of putting up with all the crap they get from men, and so they're opting out. They'll opt back in when men start to pull their own weight. There's no telling when that's going to start happening.

You forgot to alter this part. Lol.

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Title	Marriage is Declining Because Women Are Pigs
Author	wlosy
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Date	March 26, 2016 8:03 PM UTC (10 years ago)
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