RPillers : Do you believe men and women should be treated equally by the law or not ?

OfSpock · 2015-07-13T00:42:27+00:00

When people say that women don't accept responsibility, they're talking about when women never accept accountability for their actions. Everything is always someone else's fault, the event in question never happened (gaslighting), or they try to deflect attention away from their actions by bringing up irrelevant BS. A woman will always openly deny any wrongdoing, although I think sometimes they know inside that they're full of shit and that knowledge torments them psychologically. You'll never hear a woman say, "I did this and I'm sorry", like a man would. It makes women untrustworthy.

Atlas_B_Shruggin · 2015-07-12T19:49:34+00:00

you are creating a false dichotomy. That women are incapable of taking responsibility for themselves and equal treatment under the law do not contradict each other. Should true equal treatment under the law emerge, i think i can say RP thinks women would simply glom back onto men, NOT "take responsibility for their own lives" in the way TBP probably believes. Participation in Civilization in the way men participate REQUIRES women receive affirmative action and special treatment under the law. Without laws enabling women they will not and cannot participate meaningfully.

do you think If anti-discrimination laws were repealed tomorrow, would a group of wealthy influential women open a dazzling University of such high caliber for themselves that men would knock down its door?

[deleted] · 2015-07-13T15:24:35+00:00

I think everyone (men mainly) just want consistency.

When a man & woman have an altercation, & the woman begins attacking him, I've seen many people say that the women should be treated "like an unruly child because she doesnt pose as much physical threat". I've heard reasonably intelligent women say this too, & the law oftens upholds this theory. Lol, what? Now, I'm not advocating the man start swinging for the hills in such a scenario but he's allowed to use appropriate force to defend himself.

You cant ask to be treated with the leniency of a child in one set of circumstances & then preach about being the equal/superior of men when it suits you. Women underestimate how incredibly annoying that gets.

If you're not my equal when you attack me physically or verbally then thats fine. But then you're also not my equal when we both go for the same job interview.

If you get paid the same as me, you should have to do the exact same work I do for that money. Otherwise, how is that equal pay?

You cant have all the power & none of the responsibility/ accountability.

Whisper · 2015-07-13T20:48:24+00:00

This is not possible.

Judges and juries are human beings.
Human beings of both sexes display a strong preference for directing sympathy and understanding towards women rather than men.
Conviction and sentencing are subjective decisions.
Subjective decisions are affected by sympathy and understanding towards the subject.

Women are incapable of personal responsibility because personal responsibility is learned, not automatic. People learn personal responsibility by being held accountable.

Right now, women are not held accountable for most anything, because the dominant paradigm, feminism, has discovered how weaponize that increased sympathy against any attempt to hold women accountable for pretty much anything at all. Try to hold a woman accountable for her actions, you're a "misogynist", end of discussion.

So we have a plague of child-women running about, with all the powers and privileges our culture grants to adults, who have never learned personal responsibility, and who are not held accountable for the consequences of their actions.

TRP's solution to this, in our personal lives, is to abandon women for bad behaviour. Since the law prohibits us from imposing consequences directly, what we do is remove ourselves from the equation and leave women alone with the natural consequences of their actions, whether that be spinsterhood after 30 for slutting it up, or poverty for bad career and financial decisions, etc.

This leaves them with no one to call a misogynist. There are certainly arguments being made by feminists that men need to "man up" and start rescuing women again, but these are not nearly as effective because they can't be directed at any specific target.

sedatedinsomniac · 2015-07-12T22:24:21+00:00

Women and men should be treated equally under the law.

The current insanity and child like behavior displayed by some women can best be explained as follows: if you tolerate bad behavior you will inevitably get more of it. Hold women and men to an equal (high) standard of behavior and both will strive to live up to it.

CursedLemon · 2015-07-12T19:46:18+00:00

From what I understand, there are two veins of thought here. One is that women take advantage of not being looked at equally, and should be given exactly equal treatment to temper their abuse of the situation. The other is that women are not capable of living up to being treated equally as men, because LOL SMALL BRAINZ, and therefore the way it is now is just fine.

I'd advise TRPers to choose one or the other.

Qucumatz · 2015-07-13T08:52:42+00:00

yes I absolutely believe women should be treated equally under the law.

GaiusScaevolus · 2015-07-13T15:18:50+00:00

Our legal system only works if we hold everyone to be equal before the law. Right now women are legally superior.

thereddespair · 2015-07-13T19:58:03+00:00

equally yes

ECoast_Man · 2015-07-13T03:51:17+00:00

Women should be treated like men under the law. Equally.

Shouldn't you be spending your efforts on Greek politics at the moment rather than PPD? I would suggest that what we discuss here is not nearly as important as is what is happening with your country economically and financially...

[deleted] · 2015-07-12T22:16:10+00:00

Yes, they should.

cxj · 2015-07-13T01:43:30+00:00

In my opinion they should be equal under the law, with possibly some rare exceptions if they can be biologically justified. None come to mind but i try to avoid absolutes.

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AmericanHistoryAFBB · 2015-07-13T00:31:50+00:00

I agree with you HappilySingleWoman.

Title	RPillers : Do you believe men and women should be treated equally by the law or not ?
Author	HappilySingleWoman
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Comments	73
Date	July 12, 2015 7:22 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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