I know im not worthless, why do i get treated like i am?

Gandalfthegrey2323 · 2019-11-11T07:46:19+00:00

Self reflect first. It's easy to get into "the whole world is against me" mentality, and I don'y subscribe to deriving my self worth from normie strangers, but if everyone has a problem with you, you need to first examine what's causing that. Why do they not like you? What do they say is the problem with you? How does them saying you're "worthless" manifest? I doubt they just say that straight to your face.

If you know for sure what the fault is, you can try to change it. Maybe you are trying too hard to be funny, or are too cocky, who knows.

If you can't/don't want to change the problem, switch your social circle. I could never fit into the nightclub/disco type of crowd, so I just don't try anymore.

btrpb · 2019-11-11T08:55:56+00:00

Do not give up on education just because you aren't getting pussy.

That would be a dumb fucking move that is going to affect the rest of your life.

You are at a low SMV. You need to build it. And that takes time. Get your studies done, work on you're wardrobe (I'm guessing you dress like dog shit), and have patience.

HumbleTrees · 2019-11-11T09:34:10+00:00

"I'm mentally strong"

"All I want to do is get high"

"I'm well adjusted and funny"

"No one wants to talk to me"

"I'm 6ft, fit, jawline, white"

"I think these things matter, I have completely missed the point of the red pill, and am now seeing the limitations of my incel logic"

Either 1, 3, 5 are true, or 2, 4, 6 are. But it can't be both.

So, here's what you do:

Stop lying to yourself.
Stop constructing an idea of an identity of yourself. You have none right now.
Release yourself of all expectations.
Practice getting rejected. A lot. Dealing with it, and learning from it.
Shut the fuck up.
Stop giving a fuck.

Yes, this is male life. Kill yourself, or learn, get better, live, free. Either way, don't bother me about it again.

Killionaire2k · 2019-11-11T10:11:03+00:00

Ok - you want brutal honesty?

Based on reading your post you come off as someone who is chasing after people's affirmation; you sound needy, while also trying to rationalize in your mind that you are ok and it's not your fault. You need to take a step back and look at yourself, it may be the way you speak to these people, your facial expressions etc. I cannot say, because I don't see you in person.

What I can say is based on this post, you use negative words - "always," "people treat me like trash," "people reject me" you appear to have low self confidence and you allow your feelings to govern how you view other people's perception of you

Others are not responsible for how you are feeling, and in fact a lot of people quite frankly get repulsed by that behavior. Can you blame people for wanting to get far away from someone they feel is needy?

You can't control what other people think of you, youve got to realize that you have all the power to make changes in your life without these people's help.

My highest and utmost important bit of information is that you need to start doing things for yourself and what truly makes you happy, stop thinking about how others perceive you. Act as if you are the prize while keeping arrogance and cockiness in check

This may come in the form of a hobby, etc be yourself and believe in that

The big question now is, are you going to continue to let people treat you like trash, or will you put them in their place?

This is all stemmingoff of what I read.

Final_Pantasy · 2019-11-11T07:47:08+00:00

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Monitorul · 2019-11-11T09:56:52+00:00

Had to break it off with a romantic partner because she rejected my affections.

How was she your romantic partner if she rejected your affections? What are you talking about?

hoopingblob · 2019-11-11T07:56:22+00:00

I don't think you're socially advanced ir at least it didn't sound like you are but let's assume you are and it's still the same problem:

Well, some people are just meant to be alone. Something I learned throughout my life when I tried everything to be a part of a social circle and got rejected all the time.

I realized that there was nothing I could do and accepted my fate as a lone being but it gave me time to focus on myself and become the best I could get out of me (still improving). It helped me cope with my loneliness because I had a goal (or several in the matter of fact).

It ain't so bad being alone because I still talk to people in a normal basis I just don't try to bond with them anymore.

baeslick · 2019-11-11T10:39:11+00:00

Okay, I’m going to base this off the fact that I 1) quickly skimmed through your post and 2) someone just idiotically recommended you to watch “Scarface”. Sir, you have infinite value as a human being. Don’t let anybody tell you you don’t. Second, EDIT: scrolling back up to finish reading your post—you have to take care of yourself. Stop looking for validation from other people and recognize that you are a luminous fucking being, not some crude matter.

I’m serious. What you don’t see in yourself reflects outward, and someone who doesn’t recognize their own value will not be reciprocated upon, ESPECIALLY in college. Listen, do yourself a favor and take a deep breath. In through your nose, out through your mouth.

You’re going to be okay.

One thing I will say is, don’t let TRP tell you what to do, there’s a lot of fake alphas and egoistic lifters on these threads that tout “mEn’S rIgHts, MeN’s RiGhTs!” As men we have the ultimate freedom to do and be whatever we want, and we have the tools to do it. But people just complain, don’t become one of those. Humility and gratitude go a long way my friend, and before you start to complain that nobody is recognizing your value as a human being, maybe you should take a look in the mirror and see why you went to drugs in the first place for a sense of self-worth.

I’ve been there, man. Mental health is still largely misunderstood in the US, I don’t know where you’re from, but most people don’t understand it. Take yourself aside and become your own best friend, learn to listen to your conscience. Oh yeah, and stay in school, get that degree, and make it fucking rain. If you ever need someone to talk to you, my doors are open. Peace

EDIT 2: I would also like to add that you need to surround yourself with people you can trust. Family, friends, your school counselors, anyone. Find who has your best interest in mind and bounce ideas off of them, that’s what they’re there for. Don’t listen to this lone wolf nonsense, “Every man for himself!” No. If the world worked that way we’d all be dead, human beings are social creatures. Focus on two things: who you are, and what you want to do. Then you’ll know where you’re headed, and people will follow. And yes, that includes the women, but also focus less on getting attention and prioritize “paying” attention, you’ll cover A LOT more ground that way. Start with “Meditations” by Marcus Aurelius, there’s some indispensable insights there

Whisper · 2019-11-11T17:16:23+00:00

I'm a well adjusted, funny guy. I'm over 6 foot tall, fit, white, and I have a jawline. It's not like I'm new to any of this social shit either.

None of that shit matters.

Confidence is king, and King Confidence rules alone. You need to be able to talk to girls with the appearance of ease and self-assurance before your looks or status or even social skills will help you in the slightest.

Two_kids_in_a_coat · 2019-11-11T10:46:59+00:00

This is all about women. What is your social life like with guys?

Sylvester_Sterone · 2019-11-11T09:49:42+00:00

A lot of this is coming from your mindset. Read up about growth mindsets and start putting in the reps.

frognads · 2019-11-11T10:58:01+00:00

Dude you just described me to a T.

All I can say is that if you know this degree will take you where you want to go when it's finished, stick that shit out. The few years it takes to finish will pass quickly. The last thing you want is to be stuck working some shitty job in two years when all your classmates are graduating, been there.

Still keep trying to be social and learn from your experience, the uncomfortable truth is that we're fucking up one way or another if we keep getting the same bad results. For me personally I tend to run my mouth constantly in social situations and focusing on toning it down has helped a lot.

Learn to enjoy your solitude as well. Do shit like hiking on your own. Also consider taking some sort of class, dancing, martial arts, whatever. Just anything to break up the monotony.

As for a role model, when it comes to not giving a fuck mine is Patrice Oneal if that helps.

Funkydirigidoo · 2019-11-11T11:40:20+00:00

I'm a well adjusted, funny guy. I'm over 6 foot tall, fit, white, and I have a jawline. It's not like I'm new to any of this social shit either.

Wow, how about ditching the entitlement and trying some humility? Maybe that's the issue?

I'm really struggling with my whole world telling me I'm worthless this extensively.

The world is usually right. You know the old saying, "when everyone you know is an asshole, the asshole is probably you."

ErectileDistention · 2019-11-11T09:18:56+00:00

Get on a sports team.

DJVendetta · 2019-11-11T10:48:20+00:00

I know the feeling. You keep bettering yourself and people still treat you like scum.

You have to keep going. Worthwhile relationships will come, just focus on your mission

jonnyjuk · 2019-11-11T10:50:35+00:00

One thing I found that helped to make friends in college was to join a society. Find a society that you are genuinely interested in and friends will come naturally by way of mutual interests.

cydestiny · 2019-11-11T11:21:20+00:00

First, stop being delusional, the world didn't tell you anything, you are telling yourself that the world rejects you.

Second, you know nothing about suffering, you put yourself in this on your own predicament.

Third, stop using social media and internet, they have bad influence. You're all stressed out because you think that an average Joe should live a life full of friends, woman and everything else the media and pop culture is telling you. The truth is NO.

Fourth, TRP is not a self-help motivation bullshit, get your mind straighten up and work towards thing you want in life and stop asking for shortcuts/instant gratification. And make sure is what you really want not some random shit that everyone wants.

QawL · 2019-11-11T11:26:31+00:00

If you can't find any friends problem is you.

If you can find some friends that's good. It's impossible to get along with everyone, sometimes their energy won't match with yours.

If you're friends with everyone, problem is you.

muhboyAbdul · 2019-11-11T12:41:20+00:00

Just make sure to never fall in love. You will be fine😎

Monitorul · 2019-11-11T13:40:56+00:00

a male role model like trp offer me

No offense to this sub but asktrp isn't a male role model. Anyone can post here. It's more like the blind leading the blind.

Gaidsbola · 2019-11-11T14:05:31+00:00

Because you are. Read the side bar.

MSotallyTober · 2019-11-11T14:46:14+00:00

Give your life a purpose... whatever that may be. I travel for a living and for years before I put in my time, I’d be in a different place for the holidays whether it was Christmas or Thanksgiving away from friends and family. I started finding local soup kitchens to help out in on these days. It humbled me more than you could know. The problems I’d had were shit compared to those I was serving meals to; a majority of them got up in the morning despite their struggles and they pushed forward and did what they could.

Life isn’t easy, it takes effort... sometimes away from thinking you’re the problem.

BusyHearing · 2019-11-11T14:54:47+00:00

> I know im not worthless..

Forgive my skepticism, but how do you know this— is it not the very thing at stake here?

Per_Horses6 · 2019-11-11T15:13:21+00:00

Bro we all get rejected I use to feel like I was in ur shoes too, but you gotta self reflect snd write down what u want in this life bro. Rejection hurts, but it’s needed.

-Cosmo_ · 2019-11-11T16:07:39+00:00

Take the time to really figure out where you want to go from this position. After that get to grinding. Hit the gym and do semen retention.

Irtotallynotrobot · 2019-11-11T16:19:31+00:00

A lot of people at this period in man's life feel that way because you're at the bottom of the barrel. Older men have had the chance to build knowledge and resource.

Accept where you are so you can move forward. It's not your fault unless you stay this way forever, abandon the guilt. Focus on building yourself some things you can use. You're not worthless just because you don't have everything figured out right now. You're worthless because almost every man your age is at this point.

mabev43568 · 2019-11-11T16:39:07+00:00

Did you read the book No more mr nice guy?

Do you have a religious education?

We do not have enough information to tell you what can you fix in yourself.

2019-11-11T16:56:01+00:00

Self awareness, you lack it. Severely.

red_matrix · 2019-11-11T17:33:24+00:00

It’s time for monk mode, hit the gym and hit the library. Eat clean. No porn. Get your mind and body healthy. You know the drill.

The Iron is the best antidepressant I have ever found. There is no better way to fight weakness than with strength. Once the mind and body have been awakened to their true potential, it’s impossible to turn back. ~ Henry Rollins

BigBlueWookiee · 2019-11-11T17:52:40+00:00

First things, first.

You need to figure out how to get over this need of finding validation for yourself in others. STOP IT!

They haven't walked a step, let alone a mile in your shoes, they have no right to judge you. Yet, you are giving them power by allowing their view to effect your life. Fuck that.

The only person whose judgement matters is your own. You are the only one that earned where you are in life, for better or worse. Therefore you are also the only one that can chose where you go from here, and what you allow to motivate you.

If you chose to let outside judgement be the main motivating factor in your life, then that's on you. I sincerely hope that isn't the course you decide; but then, it IS your decision.

LordFlakkko · 2019-11-11T18:21:52+00:00

Another gifted privlaged white male who thinks he has it hard. Try being under 6 foot (younger brother is taller than me) and light skinned. Then you can complain

PhaedrusHunt · 2019-11-11T18:36:12+00:00

As a 40 year old I can tell you that I was in a similar stage at that time of life.

Honestly college was the toughest years for me.

rockyp32 · 2019-11-11T20:09:01+00:00

I think your expecting something unrealistic you have an idea about how interactions are supposed to go and if they don’t go that way you feel like you failed. Don’t expect anything really just be natural say what comes to Mind and be friendly. You know how you react if there’s like someone you view very highly of? You treat them almost like they don’t exist because you don’t want them to know you value them and they intimidate you. Just be nice and try to Make people feel comfortable

StrayFromThePathx · 2019-11-11T20:33:57+00:00

“I’m attractive, confident, funny, and smart but nobody likes me😪” You’re delusional

Vhascome-to · 2019-11-11T20:41:30+00:00

You don’t decide your own worth, other people do

jchrist98 · 2019-11-11T20:58:53+00:00

No fap, lift, get a hobby, and stop being a bitch.

sebastianconcept · 2019-11-11T11:03:12+00:00

You need meaning.

TRP is part of it.

You’ll find it if you seek it.

I’d recommend The Maps of Meaning series from Jordan Peterson

FightForYourWay · 2019-11-11T11:22:22+00:00

if you’re getting treated like you’re worthless it’s because you’re perceived as worthless.

lazydogg9 · 2019-11-11T12:07:59+00:00

Join some sort of club or something where you learn stuff with other people.

Like BJJ or toastmasters. Here you'll have regular contact with other humans and develop a sense of brotherhood community.

Title	I know im not worthless, why do i get treated like i am?
Author	Poopidtyscoopdipoop
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Date	November 11, 2019 7:31 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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