Insatiable desire for sexual variety: one of the hardest drugs to give up

WesNg · 2015-05-26T16:09:14+00:00

It sounds like you think way too highly of sex as if it's the ultimate pinnacle of human experience.

JackGoldsteinWrites · 2015-05-26T16:07:04+00:00

Good post. Like anything else, success itself is addictive.

Girls, goals at the gym (bench press X), etc. When I was coming off BP status myself I remember setting a goal of getting down to 200 and banging a 6. After that it was 180/8. After that it was to get 20 girls in 1 year. All done - and now that I have a LTR I sometimes really miss the hunt.

redpillbanana · 2015-05-26T17:06:29+00:00

You'll see a lot of NAMALT arguments, but in general, men (and male mammals in general) are programmed to spread their seed as far and wide as possible.

Theories like The Coolidge Effect make perfect evolutionary sense when taken into consideration - sperm is cheap and the strongest/most attractive will impregnate the most females.

The problem is that the feminine narrative doesn't allow for uncomfortable evolutionary explanations and thus the narrative of "you'll find the ONE that you want to be with FOREVER" is hammered into everyone. The incels and forever-alones out there amplify this because:

They want to curry favor with women
They want sex so badly that they imagine that if there is only a woman that will give it them, they'll love her until the end of time

In my experience, I've found that, given sufficient variety and quality, that I have a tremendous capacity for sex; the Coolidge Effect seems to apply in my case. Sometimes I wonder if I'd be as out-of-control as Chuck Negron of Three Dog Night who literally fucked so many hot women that his penis exploded.

Edit: copy/pasted the relevant portion here:

In his book 'Three Dog Nightmare,' Negron recounts the buildup to this traumatic event. He went to see a doctor to get help with his organ, which was growing swollen and chapped from overuse. "In my ignorance I thought, 'Wow! It's just like working out a muscle. It's going to be huge!'"

The doctor, however, was appalled. He made the singer promise to quit shtupping, cold turkey.

A week later the singer spotted a beauty queen backstage, "a Miss-Something-or-Other" who was ignoring the advances of his bandmates. Back in Negron's room, one thing quickly led to another. Suddenly, he heard a ripping sound: "Tsh-tsH-tSHTSH!"

The embarrassment, he reports, was even more painful than the injury. Everyone on the hospital staff was "pointing and giggling," and the doctor who stitched his manhood back together laughed all the while.

iBrokeRSA · 2015-05-26T20:15:10+00:00

It's true.

Once you hit a certain threshold of experience, the coolidge effect comes on fast and you'll get bored after banging a girl a few times. Sometimes even once or twice if the girl is unremarkable. Obviously, if she's hotter it may take 30-50 fucks before it gets stale, but it'll still happen.

This is where things like conversation ability, domestic skills, common interests and a willingness to overlook your indiscretions will start to differentiate plates from chicks worth more of your time.

She has to bring more to the table than pussy.

♂

DougieTheCaker · 2015-05-26T16:46:35+00:00

This is true.

And like you say it makes a man all the more virtuous to be able to be monogamous after experiencing high # of 8-10's.

Just like it takes a virtuous woman to halt hypergamy after experiencing a true alpha.

Thing is in a monogamous relationship between a high quality man and a high quality woman, the woman needs would be more satiated than the mans.

Woman need to appreciate that sacrifice.

Being able to overcome natural tendencies and strive for an objective good/virtue is what makes someone worth having around. Ie men being with a woman several SMV points lower than them to offset hypergamy is NOT ideal and same applies for woman being with a faithful/monogomous man with low attractiveness/options.

Drogoe · 2015-05-26T16:21:42+00:00

I'd suggest the opposite is true. After having been with a couple dozen women, I find it easier to now settle down with my current LTR and not wander too far from the plantation--"Been there, done that."

BlackHeart89 · 2015-05-26T16:56:21+00:00

I first experienced the drug of which you speak by fucking a girl in the army. She had the most beautiful body I've ever seen, the fiercest god damned fuck I've ever had. I'll never forget that night, and I will never stop chasing it. Her abs flexing, her tits rocking, her body so god damned enthralling that I felt myself burning like a red-hot fire.

I'll never stop chasing that. Never. I'm addicted too, brother.

[deleted] · 2015-05-26T16:02:32+00:00

I have a friend like that in the Navy that I believe is obsessed with the sexual novelty his career brings. He even got married not too long ago then couldn't "stop himself" from sleeping with an ex when she showed up at his house and I guess forced herself on him. What's interesting is the way he tries to hamster his cheating as okay because it meant "nothing".

aguy01 · 2015-05-26T18:04:01+00:00

A "switch" goes off in a man's mind when he has tasted very high success with women, and it creates a drug-like desire for more of the same.

Isn't that why women are advised against sleeping with multiple men? Aren't you describing a reduced ability to pair bond?

HS-Thompson · 2015-05-26T16:34:15+00:00

Meh. I have slept with dozens and dozens of 8+ women, models and so on. I will say with authority that it definitely gets boring. I mean obviously certain parts of it are still thrilling but it can be a pretty unsatisfying lifestyle.

Back when I was married I was monogamous for almost ten years. I actually do think that was something to be proud of and I don't think I am a better person now. It's just a different experience, one choice of many.

As for being able to turn it on and off of course I can decide if I want to be committed or not. I am a man and I am not mentally weak, I can decide what I do and don't do.

frys180 · 2015-05-26T19:31:05+00:00

They think monogamy is easy, and they have an exaggerated sense of their virtue for their loyalty.

Can confirm. This was once me. After having lots of sex with my GF I want to have sex with many different women.

This is how it turned out for me but some men may be different.

BlatantTRPThrowaway · 2015-05-26T20:23:13+00:00

TRP is about hard truths. This is a very good hard truth which most of us should accept. Just like how too much alpha dick makes a woman more likely to get alpha widowed, too much varied pussy make a man more likely to get...variety widowed.

I owe my girlfriend and myself an obligation to remain faithful. I will stay faithful because being faithful is who I am. But the days I feel weakest and need to muster as much willpower as I can are those days when I feel that primal urge to plant my seed in every hot chick I see.

Pussy white knights are more likely to cheat because they lie to themselves, saying that fighting variety is easy. For every one superpower alpha guy who cheats by fucking the field, there are 20 dweebs who cheat because they got the slightest bit of attention from the ugliest "other" girl they could find, just because she's different.

GuitarHero07 · 2015-05-28T00:06:18+00:00

The guys at the top of the pyramid can have it all. Many extremely rich/handsome/powerful men have wives and also get ass on the side. In some cultures it's even understood that an in-demand man will cheat. A blind eye is turned towards this as long as he fulfills his duties to the wife and children.

Colinbedr · 2015-05-26T20:24:01+00:00

I agree completely. I've been with over a hundred women and now I find it impossible to date long term. I've experimented with open relationships and polygamy but women usually get too attached and fear "losing" me. What they don't understand is I'm not going to stop seeing a woman just because there's other women in my life.

I'm pushing 30 now and hoping it'll be possible for me to have a relationship at some point because I want to have children, but it's starting to look like that's not going to happen.

ChocolateHead · 2015-05-26T22:06:32+00:00

A man's desire for sexual variety increases with the amount of notches he collects.

Where do people come up with this pseudo-scientific bullshit?

This is absolutely not true. Some guys collect a bunch of notches and then get tired of sexual variety and just want to settle down. After many years of banging 8s and 9s I'm honestly really tired of it and I prefer hanging out with one woman who is solid and fun.

There is a ton of dudes here who want to generalize their own experiences onto everybody and it is fucking retarded.

TechnoRaptor · 2015-05-26T16:20:49+00:00

if you obsessively think about sex and analyze it so heavily, you will probably end up having less of it

projectself · 2015-05-26T18:25:42+00:00

This is why we tell men to avoid high partner count women, it changes our ability to pair strongly with a single mate in the future. The same principles and mechanisms apply to both sexes.

Have oneitis? go sleep with 10 women, you will no longer be strongly paired with her/ or anyone for that matter.

Granted, men have testosterone, which reduces the flood of oxytocin; but it's still the same mechanism.

RadaNotaTaakaDaPills · 2015-05-26T16:43:48+00:00

So, are you suggesting that monogamy is only virtuous in the context of having the option of sleeping with other women? That a person having sexual relations with a singular person their entire life is not a virtuous accomplishment in comparison to one whose tasted the fruit of abundance but instead chose to stay true to one?

machimus · 2015-05-26T19:14:56+00:00

Well, on one hand, if you don't have much experience you can either justify it by saying sex isn't all that great, or you can admit you always wonder what it's like.

On the other hand, if you do, you will know acutely how good it is and will know what you're missing if you stop, but you can rest easy that if you did stop at least you have made a reasonable conquest.

Choose your poison.

DwightWolftail · 2015-05-26T19:17:40+00:00

Everything is adaptable . By gaining something new , you lose the old . Remember being beta . Back then emotions for women were over the top . Same thing here . I totally agree with what you say about monogamy . BUT , since you are into so much ''success'' you can't possibly be remember/imagine what it is like to have sex with a virgin you LTR and loves you .

Lastly , we all know were drug addictions lead .

BlackHeart89 · 2015-05-26T20:04:49+00:00

Eh. I've always been the type to need variety. From my food all the way to my women.

With that being said, I can understand why someone would be content with one woman. I would do the same if I was more BP and didn't suffer from gaining oneitis. Monogamist and being single both have their advantages and disadvantages.

I'm a lazy fucker at heart, so I prefer polyamory. Me plus 3 other women. But I'm far too realistic for that.

Keninishna · 2015-05-26T20:14:16+00:00

sex is an addiction, and there is greater dopamine reward with novelty and sleeping with more women. Its genetics. Yes banging high value women and models is great and all but they are artificially propping up your value and self esteem and you have to keep getting more because if you don't then your value falls and you get seriously depressed. (obtainable but not sustainable) Its best to keep a balance of banging the hottest girls you can find but not obessing over it.

an analogy would be eating a 100$+ steak that melts in your mouth that was raised well with good genetics and carefully prepared and cooked. Most people might eat that kind of steak a few times in their lives but most settle for the stuff on sale at the grocery store and have fun cooking out themselves.

[deleted] · 2015-05-26T20:46:17+00:00

I'm having trouble not fucking randoms since i got a girlfriend (im not though). Nobody cared who I was until i put on the mass

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Rhunta · 2015-05-26T21:10:10+00:00

.. Than I don't want to have that experience. Why become addicted to something, that isn't always in your control.

NeoreactionSafe · 2015-05-26T22:16:22+00:00

When we look at male homosexuality you see extreme abundance of sex partners.

Separating out the whole "attraction" thing... it comes down to a pleasure seeking then reward pattern.

It becomes "an end in itself".

And the mention of other drugs is appropriate too. Some people seem biologically and mentally predisposed to become heavily addicted to drugs.

One wonders if part of why Red Pill seems slightly skewed is that the driving force is addiction rather than a conscious lifestyle choice.

How can we talk of "sexual strategy" if many are compelled to behave in specific ways unconsciously?

Then there's the whole Red Pill rationalism concept, if it's all just addictive behavior are we really guiding our path or just reacting to subjective "highs".

It's always good to remember the Rat Cage Experiments where the stress produced mice that went off into different behaviors based on the loss of social cohesion. Some went MGTOW ("The Beautiful Ones") and others went hypersexual or violent. The female mice essentially became Feminists (masculine) or they turned into hybernating "Cat Ladies".

Seen from the objective view we might see extreme sexuality as just "normal" at this stage of social collapse.

Be the Mouse that Enjoys the Decline.

TRPtophan · Wed May 27 0:15:49 2015 UTC

That is real virtue: choosing to stay monogamous against all temptations with someone who's worth it, rather than having the choice made for you and then cluelessly rationalizing your virtue post hoc.

Not quite.

Men are not naturally monogamous, we are instinctively polygamous (more is better). Women are instinctively hypergamous (better is better). It is only social norms that stand in the way. Polygamy is illegal in most of the world, and that is still the only thing standing in the way for men. Slut-shaming used to be the only thing standing in women's way, now it has left the building.

Above all else, to thine own self be true. Embrace the truth I have unveiled and refuse to be shamed for it.

I'm not saying that every man should go around wantonly fulfilling their instincts (unless they are attractive enough to do so). What I am saying is that the societal contract requiring men to be monogamous has all but expired. There is almost no good reason for men to be monogamous anymore. It's completely against our nature. But monogamy isn't difficult (I've done it myself but I knew even then I was setting myself up for betrayal). Monogamy is just not necessary anymore ... for men.

If you find a good enough woman or harem, demand monogamy FROM them while declining to give it in return. You may be surprised at the results.

Fuck male monogamy in the face. It's not a virtue. Selfishness is. Greed is good. Men have made nothing but sacrifices for the entirety of human history. Make HER sacrifice. She doesn't want to be in a relationship where you're always asking a bunch of stupid questions. Take everything she has to give. That's what she wants. That's what you want.

The moment you commit to a woman (Law 20), you give her all the power in a relationship. She's conquered you. Then she will inevitably become bored, the eyes will start to wander, and the panties will come off.

If you don't want to spread your seed, don't. Nothing says a lack of commitment means that you have to spin plates. She has to give you everything or you walk away and find someone else. Dread Game 101.

"Sex gets boring" is just something that people that don't achieve sexual success say.

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Drogoe · 2015-05-26T18:37:25+00:00

(Naturally, a dimwit will accuse me of implicit humblebragging. This is always the way, ad hominem over substance.)

Title	Insatiable desire for sexual variety: one of the hardest drugs to give up
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