Lose libido completely after masturbating. Don't even feel like meeting up with girls

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For example I was making plans with 2 girls for the weekend, both DTF, then I fapped, then I feel like just cancelling everything. Just stay home or grab a beer with a mate feels way more appealing

But then I know when I am horny again I will regret it. But if I am horny again, couldn't I just fap again and move on with my day

If sex is a basic need like feeling thirsty, why not take the shortest route to fulfill it?

I'm guessing at some point fapping won't satisfy me and I will crave a female's body, but for now I don't feel like that so why bother?

Anyone ever feels like that? What's your take on this situation?


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Title Lose libido completely after masturbating. Don't even feel like meeting up with girls
Author mksu911
Upvotes 86
Comments 93
Date 04 March 2020 03:28 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit askTRP
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/352387
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[–]ModTheRedPike[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (1 child) | Copy

Well, this is a shitshow.

First off, choosing not to mastubate or suggesting that masturbation might be the cause of a specific problem IS NOT the same as NOFAP. Sometimes indeed bad habits can cause bad results. The almost religious nofap world is very much not in line with a man that can hold frame and guide his life on his terms.

I think most guys experience what OP experienced at some point. Jerking off isn't the same as fucking, unless you are doing the latter wrong. They affect us differently. That is not to say that jerking off is inherently wrong. Its just to say that you should make decisions based on your situation with as much data as possible.

This is not the place for zealotry on the topic. Nofap participants are welcome here. Dogmatic responses are not and will be dealt with accordingly.

Second, incels. I'm convinced that the vast majority of incels are not. They are volcels. They simply don't want to put in the work to build a better them. And this is where I personally have a problem with nofap. Abstinance is not action. It's passive. Passive choices yield passive results. Ask any alcoholic that has given up the bottle if all they had to do was give up the bottle to succeed.

Finally, in my experience there is a strong correlation between semenretention and people I eventually have to ban. I'm not going to speculate as to why, but know that if that's your foot in the door in a conversation, I'm already eyeing you with great suspicion. And frankly, it just sounds all nuts. But that's just my opinion.

[–]imahoaxandacoach213 points214 points  (12 children) | Copy

Stop masturbating.

[–]thrwy7547956 points57 points  (1 child) | Copy

And, you can read more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractory_period_(sex)

The French also have a term for it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_petite_mort

There's also the colloquialism: "post-nut clarity" .

When you aren't getting pussy, it's all you want. When you have it, you won't give a shit about it. This phenomenon can be broadened, and applied to all aspects of life (money, friends, power, etc.).

All of this is tied intricately to "abundance mentality". When you have abundance, you feel better, and can therefore make wiser decisions.

The most important thing that you can have in abundance is time because that's all anyone alive really ever has.

[–]king_of_red_alphas10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well said.

When you live in scarcity, your life is crippled because the preoccupation (subconsciously or otherwise) that you don’t have access to a basic human need should you need it..

It’s why we store food, save money, etc

With abundance you can relax and make more future oriented plans in life simply because you know the basics are always on-hand.

Average women live in this state in regards to sex and dating, and it shows any time they try to give an average man advice.

They simply can’t conceive on a world in which you have to continuously hunt for physical intimacy and generally take whatever is offered to you.

[–]i-am-the-prize31 points32 points  (3 children) | Copy

i mean, it can't be that easy, can it?

[–]Unknockable10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

What he said

[–]MonkMode201910 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy

It is. Work out. Go for a run. Quit being a pussy.

[–]Rage81500 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

But I am what I eat. Seems like I'm doing OK?

[–]fernandoarauj62 points63 points  (1 child) | Copy

At least for me, fucking is way more fun than masturbating.

Like, miles apart. Just thinking of smacking some ass while pulling her hair is more fun than jacking off.

Also, initial dates are fun. Bantering, learning new shit, talking about yourself.

It's appealing process.

What happens to me usually is that my insecurity (taking a risk on someone not liking me / having a shit date) would make the certain option look more appealing. You just need to overcome that.

[–]jackandjill226 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

I don't like dating. It's not as interesting to me as other things I could be doing with my time.

[–]redditsince201145 points46 points  (7 children) | Copy

I’ve struggled with this also. Other people in this thread are saying “just don’t masturbate, go have sex it’s way better” but it’s really not that simple. Even after I have sex sometimes I think “wow, I did all that just to cum. What a waste of time.”

It’s hard to relate this problem without abundance. When getting laid is rare for you then of course that’s the big prize that motivates all your actions. But when getting pussy can happen anytime you want, then it becomes less valuable and your decisions are based less around having sex. So I believe it really comes down to what your big picture goals are. What can the woman offer you more than sex? If the answer is nothing besides an orgasm, then why not just masturbate?

So in the end it all comes down to what do you want, in the big picture. Do you want the experience of hanging out with a girl, going on a date, having an adventure, and having an experience greater than sex? Or do you just want to cum and make that urge go away so you can do other things with your time?

That’s my 2 cents.

[–]kankouillotte25 points26 points  (2 children) | Copy

wow, I did all that just to cum

yep exactly. Cycle is get new girl -> meet and fuck a handful times -> wonder exactly why should I like this girl ? she's just a better alternative to masturbation but also costs me a lot of energy focus and attention -> quit her and decide to stay alone for a while .... -> miss fucking a real girl, go back to the start

my dream is that a low maintenance girl would break the cycle, but i have yet to find one.

[–]Itsgeneticsbruh4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Yeah, they’re called plates my dude.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That’s called marriage. It may break after several years anyway.

[–]mksu911[S] 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy

The cycle is sorta like this

get horny -> swipe -> fap -> get horny -> chat with who I matched with 2 days ago -> get numbers -> fap -> don't text them -> get horny -> text them, set up dates -> fap -> "why bother" -> get horny...

[–]GeuseyBetel0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

hahaha ain't that the truth

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[–]AuberyBitoni5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

+1, everything this guy said was spot on, couldn't have said it any better.

[–]geo_gan0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Once again I feel out of the life loop, never got sent a “sext” or any picture really from any girl my entire life.

[–]rangat4211 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy

Some women are great, but most are a waste of time and full of drama and manipulation. You risk getting stds, false rape allegations, pregnancy. You have to spend money on them and waste your valuable time trying to impress them and chase them as if they are some valuable princess. After you cum you realize how ridiculous it all is and its not worth it. Unless you meet a great women (very rare), might as well just jerk off and avoid the headache.

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[–]DigitalDragonSlayer0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Wonder what the science is behind this

[–]Jitters6715 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy

Go check out semen retention subreddit and do that. Day 38 here

[–]OverSentient20 points21 points  (4 children) | Copy

You may have masturbation addiction. I suggest you quit cold turkey and there are several subs here like pornfree or nofap that could help you. Masturbation requires lesser effort than taking a girl out and both have the same pay off.

So you might think its better to just fap, but because its so easily accesible your brain gets worn out due to the excessive dopamine releases (if theres any left).

Just know that being with a woman is a much stronger sexual experience and masturbation leads to the degradation of the experience i.e. erectile dysfunction

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis-2 points-1 points  (2 children) | Copy

Oh god, /nofap is absolutely ridiculous. Horrible advice.

Stop regurgitating debunked pseudo-science. Or at least do it somewhere else.

[–]OverSentient4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

Perhaps the subs philosophy doesn’t match. That doesn’t mean their objectives aren’t valid

[–]GeuseyBetel1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

The premise that too frequent masturbation kills your motivation is true. If you're lacking motivation, limit your masturbation, but quitting altogether isn't necessary and may have the opposite effect. Find the healthy balance just like anything in life.

[–]btrpb17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy

Cumming into a sock aint "fulfilling" anything.

[–]ElijahBurningWoods12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy

Sock? I just take 2 chicken breasts and wrap em around my weewee.

[–]WayThrownAway35 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

Wait hold up... You warm them first, right?

Steps:

-1.Warm up 2 raw chicken breasts (not too hot).

-2.Put one on each side of your dick.

-3.Using a magnum condom, put the condom around the chicken beast and dick sandwich so it stays in place (it should be nice and tight now, and hands free).

-4.Begin the fapping process.

*extra points of you can put some of the slimy chicken blood/fat combo inside the magnum (I'd use a turkey blaster to inject the solution.

-5.Have a hair dryer (on highest setting) on hand so that you can keep the breasts warm as you fap when they begin to grow cold.

*Some lightly boil the breasts so only the outside gets boiled to avoid salmonella, or even initially put a condom on before beginning step 1.

-6. Invite family over for dinner and serve "Chicken breast A-la-nut" .

Easy.

[–]jackandjill221 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Lol

[–]MisterMarbles19880 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

lmao

[–]alphakari16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy

If you want to have a libido, don't masturbate.

If you need to get some shit done and you've got your head in the clouds day dreaming bout hoes, masturbate.

[–]KaliosX3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Pros and cons in this bitch

[–]LethalShade3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

That's what happens. Put biology on your side. Or be a porn wizard, up to you.

[–]Soundnipple5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy

If I stop masturbating the need for a woman is really strong for me. The easy answer is to stop masturbating.

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[–]GeuseyBetel3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

kinda the point of TRP to not feel.

not true. The point of the red pill is to embrace the truth in things like biology and psychology when it comes to your approach with women.

Having sex/experiences with woman is a part of the human experience and part of a healthy, balanced life.

[–]GameOfBimbos4205 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Same, just don’t wack it before you’re meeting a girl or going out... if I do I literally don’t want to move or go out.

Keep the fapping down. If not you literally are taking the “venom” out of yourself...

[–]xX_bullitt_Xx4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

If you masturbate with no external visual stimulation you'll eventually lose interest in jerking off. The problem with porn (or nudes) is that it's effectively a sedative. You're killing part of your evolutionary driving system when you satiate desire with porn. Try masturbating with no porn and you'll see what I mean.

[–]DTron23327 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

Stop masterbating. If you really feel as porn or cumming on yourself is more appealing than cumming on a women’s nice ass then you’ve fooled yourself.

You think that stroking your cock to another guy fucking the girl you would love to fuck makes you a winner? No. It makes you the guy in the corner.

[–]bumbuff5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Masturbating is mostly habit. I think it's worse than than video games for the endorphin addiction.

Why is it worse? Your T levels take a dip for a bit after you spunk. And your T levels play a role in your confidence and attitude.

When you haven't been laid in a bit and don't masturbate you should be feeling more lustful. 3 or 4 days without any sexual release and the wind could get me off and women feed off of it. I am in there like a tiger playing with its prey before the kill.

That being said, a lot of people new to RP that are trying to get laid really do need to follow a no-fap disciplined lifestyle. Your T-levels rise, you gain some confidence to develop your social skills so that when you do get laid you are confident in your skills that lower T-levels won't affect your game.

But until you have those skills you really need all the T in your system. It's why a lot of people that were able to get out of the habit of masturbating mostly saw positive results.

I also have a personal theory that incels and betas generally masturbate too much. They don't masturbate BECAUSE they are betas, they are betas because they masturbate too much. You create a false sense of abundance in your young 20's by jerking off all the time. Then you end up with a bad habit. Fast forward a few years and you've been laid once in your life, you don't care anymore and your appearance and attitude falls to shit. Summed up and paraphrased a it.

Contrary to popular belief I think not masturbating has made me more clear on my goals, where most people think masturbating gives them clarity.

Masturbating, fundamentally, is a participation award for living. I don't want that shit.

[–]EvelynnSpoiler2 points3 points  (13 children) | Copy

Prolactin mate

[–]WayThrownAway30 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy

Glad someone is actually on point here with their science. U pin by any chance?

[–]EvelynnSpoiler1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy

Around 4 years ago. Don't recommend it tbh

[–]WayThrownAway3-2 points-1 points  (10 children) | Copy

Oh, and dw I'm already a juicy mfer. Years of experience already. Test /tren/deca/dbol/winstrol 👌🏻 I recommend to anyone who is willing to actually learn about it heavily before starting. If you're the type that can't do research or isn't willing to be bothered, then I highly advise against it.

[–]EvelynnSpoiler2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy

Nearly killed me, and I research things heavily. I'll go on TRT one day though

[–]WayThrownAway3-1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy

Why did it nearly kill you? I've never had any issues with the cycles I've done. We're you monitoring your bloods etc?

[–]EvelynnSpoiler2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy

Insides exploded. Exact same thing happened to a mate

[–]WayThrownAway30 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

What does that mean? What cycles were you running?

[–]EvelynnSpoiler2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy

Test & deca at the time. My mate was on test & tren.

It means something inside what we were taking caused our insides to store up loads of shit and implode

[–]WayThrownAway30 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

Wow that just doesn't sound like gear at all. At least not any good quality gear. Jesus I've never in all my years heard this. Did you go to the doctor?

[–]think_90909092 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Okay let's clear up a few things. Whether you decide to fuck a girl or masturbate whenever you feel the urge to get some sexual release, you are feeding your appetite for sex. It might seem like you are simply getting rid of the urge when you are fapping (or having sex), but in fact the exact opposite thing is happening. The urge does go away at first but then it comes back even stronger and, overall, you end up desiring sex more.

Sexual release is like any other drug. The more you take it, the more you want it. Masturbating is just a shorter and easier path to get to that sexual release than real sex with real women. It doesn't feel as good as real sex but it does take a lot less effort, so it makes sense that so many men resort to it.

Feeding that desire for sex can quickly take over your life and it can become the only that matters if you're not careful, just like crack is the only thing that matters for crack addicts. That's why if you want to be more productive in life, it helps a lot to learn how to resist those urges so that you can focus on others things like your career, your skills, your fitness, your health, your knowledge, etc. Sex is a very strong desire but it is not a basic need. Try going without food for a week if you don't believe me.

[–]pebblefromwell2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Then stop yanking your crank

[–]JohnnyOmm2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

Holy shit just stop jacking off you already know this

[–]JaevonTheDon2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

I stopped having sex and stopped masturbation for 60 days. Pure semen retention. It's the greatest i've ever felt in my life your lazer focused on everything and it's like all the red pill stuff just instantly sticks with you after a few weeks. It's the semen. I'm not in the very religious world of nofap i just tried new things and set off to see what works and what doesn't. Semen retention and nofap works. Sr plus red pill will give you everything you've ever wanted

[–]Redditorsheaven0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Okay. Thats fine. What’s the result? I may agree on focus part. But what about your dating life?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I keep seeing posts like this and feel like calling bullshit because I've only made it to 10 days before I decided to cum again. I haven't cum in 4 days and just had a girl visit me, we didn't fuck and I'm super horny. It looks like I have to push through the first phase before I really start to feel benefits. Masturbation and porn is like the hardest thing for me to stop it seems. I'm 39 and have been jerking it since I was 12.

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[–]Redditorsheaven0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Thats the point. Into 10 days nofap now. I almost forget about sexuality. When I do mastrubate (not much ofc) I had more willingness to find someone to have sex with & approaching girls etc.

[–]tightsleeves1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Wow this is stupid; After you release your libido drops... that's not rocket science and is general "being a man 101" shit. If your libido drops to levels this low you need to determine if masturbating is your path to glory.

If you somehow think jerking off to porn is more exciting than having a girl hanging off your dick then I don't know what to say; Quit porn for 90 days and re-align your sexual mind into a healthy state.

[–]unamedasha1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

You dont enjoy her company. If you don't enjoy a girls company drop her.

[–]WayThrownAway3-2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy

Did u even read the post? Nigga wants to see her until he nuts. I don't think he really is interested in the company of a woman.

[–]hamagiclamp2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

I like how any time anyone on this sub mentions they masturbate the no fappers come out to project there own issues on the poster.

You're probably not addicted to masturbating. You probably have just reached a point of abundance that sex means very little. Start looking for something else to fullfil you. Your dick needs to get off but don't forget your mind and heart need to get off as well.

[–]lokilis0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Real advice up in this shit

[–]catsdontsmile1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I have this exact same problem. It's gotten to the point that I will get on tinder, get some girl to send me some audios and nudes begging for it, jerk off and lose all interest in meeting her. It seems like such a waste of time and energy when I'm not REALLY interested in her. I've actually gone ahead and uninstalled dating apps. I think its a matter of interest. If jerking off is better, then you aren't really into those girls, so better spend your time elsewhere. Ideally stop masturbating and just be hyper-focused in yourself.

[–]jammyjam501 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy

Saved yourself wasted energy, Potential STDs. Nagging. Endless texting. Smelly used Tinder generation vagina juices on you. Female manipulations. Should i go on?

You doing it right buddy. Pussy ain't worth it really. Focus your energy and resources on yourself.

[–]L2diy0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Lmao you forgot /s

[–]jammyjam500 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

No. I was serious. Chasing pussy is a bad investment. Not saying to be gay or anything. Just saying today's chicks not worth a chase.

[–]L2diy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

So watching porn and masturbating is better? Lmao. He isn’t “chasing pussy” he’s inviting girls over to fuck. He’s living a life of abundance. MGTOW or Incel would be a good sub for you. We are men, we are sexual creatures, sex is good.

[–]jammyjam500 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Sex is great. Just saying be picky. Keep your frame and dont invest anything in it.

He says that after masturbating, he feels that just staying home or grab a beer is better. Which means he made plans to meet them outside of home (their place or pre-fuck drinks somewhere?).

This is what i understood from him.

Sex is fun and awesome. But realizing what its worth and what it isn't worth is next level maturity.

I do support magtow. I believe in fucking chicks. Then helping them be strong and independent by moving to the next one. Marriage is a bad deal for men and it stands in the way of women to be independent. I am a feminist. I never give a ring to any bitch. For their own freedom. 🤗

[–]Aestheticcunt19960 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

MGTOW phaggot.

[–]jammyjam500 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Na. I fuck more pussy than all you idiots combined. I am just picky and never chase.

[–]Aestheticcunt1996-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Right attitude.

[–]Unbiased1010 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

Post Nut Clarity. Look it up

[–]L2diy0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

That’s if you fuck a girl, not if you jerk off to other people having sex

[–]Unbiased1010 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Its for both

[–]L2diy1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

for porn your post nut clarity is that you're a sad piece of shit touching yourself to a screen. It ISN'T that you shouldn't go out and bang other girls. That's a byproduct of your disappointment with yourself.

[–]Domebeers0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

theres an old mark walberg movie where he is like an assassin, I can't remember the name, but one of the supporting characters is a guy who gave up women to just masturbate, and he has this scene where he explains the rational. It's funny, check it out.

Anyway if you are going out with girls who are dtf but you flake because you jacked instead, yeah dawg don't do that.

" If sex is a basic need like feeling thirsty, why not take the shortest route to fulfill it? "

You wouldn't drink out of a sewer if you were thirsty, you'd still try to find clean water. Think of pussy as clean water. You go for that first.

[–]madfrombrad0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Do leg excercise for a quick hit of testosterone. It will boost your confidence and you won’t need to jack off

[–]Siyuen_Tea0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

If you're satisfied with that, why not?

The reason you won't want to do that is because your game will rust and it'll be hard to get when you do want it.

[–]L2diy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Quit being a little bitch, stop masturbating, and hit the gym

[–]boy_named_su0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

LOWFAP

[–]nexther0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Having a girl submit to me... while I use her body aggressively in any way I want, gets me off. Spanking her, tying her up and choking her gets me all hot.

Jerking only gets me off in dry spells... which for a guy like me: doesn’t exist.

Sorry but nothing is going to get me off as much as the real deal: HB9’s.

[–]Redditorsheaven0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Doing at least 10 days nofap. Nothing has changed really. Instead, I don’t want to feel sexual and feels like I forgot what sexuality and physical connection are. Before that (when I mastrubated 1-2 times a week) felt much better and wanted to search sex and someone who would do with. However, now I completely lost my will on approaching girls. I will continue doing this for more but I am more suspicious than enthusiastic now. That is my opinion on nofap. We’ll see where it goes.

[–]∞ Mod | RP Vanguardbsutansalt0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lose libido completely after masturbating. Don't even feel like meeting up with girls

THEN STOP JERKING OFF! /u/TheRedPike already answered it so /thread

[–]1Terminal-Psychosis0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Oh god, the freaks over at /nofap are brigading again.

Take the pseudo-science bullshit elsewhere.

[–]mrsmiley8310 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Or the idiots that say after you masturbate your testosterone levels drop lol No fap is b.s., it only helps if you're so addicted to porn that it affects your day to day life.



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