Lone Wolf

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December 21, 2015
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Summary:

Stay flexible at all times. You will not always be in an ideal environment to spit game the way you like but don’t let that ruin your night. Change your approach, who knows, it might just work better.


Body:

I went to see Star Wars on Friday. If you haven’t seen it, get over your obsession of having everything be ”Red Pill” (whatever that means) and go see it, it’s a good movie. Anyways, I went out by myself because being home for dinner with my parents means I have to deal with the fact that my parents can’t stay awake past 8 anymore. Holy shit I am never getting old. Went to a 9:30 showing and was out by midnight. I’m not ready to go home yet. So I continue my journey to [Local Bar], and you guessed it, I went alone.

The game changes for me when I’m out by myself. I have to be a lot more laid back than I usually am.

The_Titleist, what does it mean to be more laid back?

I’m glad you asked! When I am out by myself I have no backup. If I walk up to that group of girls and am rejected cold, I have no way to recover. When I am normally running game on bar sluts I have a fun brand of “arrogantly self-aware narcissist” that really works for me. I’m also the only guy in my circle of friends that has no fear of using that to open up a set of girls and bring them back to us. If not, at least I can bring back a fun story about how I destroyed some feminist cunt and we can have a good laugh about it. When I am with my friends we try to be as close to the center of attention as possible so even if we fail talking to girls, we are still having fun. That’s attractive, girls want to go where the fun is or wonder why those fun guys over there haven’t talked to them yet. When I am by myself I’m just that creepy guy that’s walking up to groups of girls, talking about how great he is and insulting everyone. See the difference? Good.

The_Titleist, it’s nice that you explained how you like to spit game, but that still doesn’t tell me how you acted that night or why it worked.

You’re right. Allow me to explain my lone wolf approach.

DISCLAIMER: More often than not you will go home alone. I’m talking 4/5 times.

When I am out by myself I am the hunter. The first thing I do is get a drink to sip slow and establish myself at a table while observing the crowd. Don’t stare, but don’t blend in either. Just be part of the atmosphere. Have you done that? Good. When I’m established I then look around to see where the girls are and who they are talking to.

  • Where are the alpha males? The girls these guys are talking to are locked into a place of warped time and space. If you can bait those girls over to your table you’re a better man than me.

  • Where are the couples? Don’t even bother with these girls unless they are in a visible fight. Too much effort for not enough reward.

  • Where are the packs of friends? The girls here are as receptive as any at the bar, but the guys (read orbiters) will protect their own like a hawk. Not worth the effort.

  • Where are the girl gangs? These are what you want. They are usually so annoyed by beta orbiters/losers talking to them at the first sniff of alpha they are more than receptive.

In fact there is one such group in front of me

There they are, a group of three girls. I like groups of three because then the two left behind can talk to each other. One is short, looks Hispanic, black hair, dick sucking lips, large boobs, HB9. One is kind of chubby (why is there always a fat one) but a nice cute face and well put together HB5. One is slender, small boobs, red hair, perky butt HB8, we will call her “Summer”.

Guys have been hitting on them constantly all night. Like an endless stream of losers. I can see the frustration on their faces as guy after guy comes over to talk to them. But the troopers that they are, they stick around because the drinks are free and the attention is endless.

I was thinking about making a move on HB9 when two guys show up. They immediately begin talking to Summer and fatty. HB9 is visibly upset, but sticks around because the guys are talking to fatty and Summer. I decide to hold off and wait.

Translation for AFC

Why did I hold off here? It’s because of her mood. Reading her body language, her feet were pointed towards the door. That is a sign that she is ready to leave. She has her hands on her hips. This is a power pose to establish dominance over the other two girls. And of course, I can’t forget the blatant “fuck off” that her eyes were spewing. She was annoyed that she was ignored for her two lesser friends. I could have swept in right there and rescued her from her mood, but then I would have to deal with getting cock blocked by fatty when they finally reject the losers who are talking to them. I decide to let HB9 blow it all up as she protects her vanity then pick off Summer in the aftermath.

Back to the action

Everything goes down as I anticipated. I’m the luckiest guy alive HB9 thanks the two guys for coming over but “[They] are friends from high school that haven’t seen each other in years and just want to reconnect”. Guys walk away with their tails between their legs. They return to their circle. Summer is now upset; I can’t say for certain if she was into that last guy or not but nobody wants their prospects ended for them. This is when she starts to look my way.

Our eyes meet and I can see she is interested. She opens up her body to mine and mirrors my smirk. I motion for her to come my way. She says something to her friends and comes over smiling.

TT – “I can only assume you are here with your friends?”

HB8 – “Yes I am, how did you know?”

TT – “Only a friend could cock block you like that and get away with it.”

HB8 – “OMG, I know. She can be such a bitch sometimes, I seriously hate her." I love how girls can be friends with people they claim to hate

TT – “Is that why you’re over here? To get away from her?”

HB8 – “Haha, no. I’m here because you called me over…and you’re cute.”

TT – “I am, aren’t I. I’m The_Titleist BTW”

HB8 – “Summer, and don’t get cocky ;)”

Translation for AFC

We talk a lot on TRP about how we get shit tested, but that night, I was the one doing the shit testing.

Always establish dominance as soon as possible in the interaction. In this situation I sent her an IOI, which she matched. The first thing I did was test her for compliance by motioning her over to me. Pass, and in doing so entered my frame. This significantly eases the interaction moving forward.

TT – “I can see that you are here to have fun and get laid, but you can’t because your friends suck”

Summer – “I know, she’s just mad because guys like me better”

Next, I tested for fitness by making her qualify her action of coming over.

TT – “You’re here to get laid, right? Or you do you just need to repair your ego”

Summer – “You are right, I am here to get laid. Also, I see you as a candidate ;)”

Back to the action

We talk about nonsense. You can say just about anything to a girl who is interested in you. We actually talked about how there are still some leaves are left up on the oak trees. Whatever The main point is that I noticed that her friends weren’t coming to rescue her and not once did she look around for them. I decide this is the right time to bring her back home.

TT – “Where did your friends go?” Fuck, I may have just blown this

Summer – “I don’t know. Oh no, fatty was my ride” Houston, we have a problem The last thing I need is a girl freaking out because she has lost her friends. I’ve blown it too many times when this has happens.

TT – “Check it out, there is a place about a block away that’s open and makes some damn good quesadillas. Let’s go there, you can sober up and track down your friends.”

Summer – “Okay”

Translation for AFC

This is not a shit test. This is genuine concern wrapped in enlightened self-interest. She was scared because she had lost track of her friends. I know that food will always help calm people in these situations, but at the same time, I am further isolating her and thus improving my chances of getting laid by controlling the options.

Say what you want about my morals, I don’t give a fuck.

Back to the action

We leave [Local Bar] and start making the walk over to the quesadilla place. In my arms she seems to have calmed down and is now looking all sultry again. I stare her straight in the eyes.

TT - “You know, I’ve been waiting for this opportunity all night”

Summer – “What opportunity?”

I grab her by the base of her hair and kiss her

Summer – “I like that”

TT – “Fuck quesadillas, I know the best breakfast place in town”

She is in my arms, we both know what I really mean.

Summer – “Then what are we waiting for?”


Conclusions:

  • As much as girls want you to be dangerous and aggressive, they also need you to make them feel safe. The alpha male is inherently a protector, use that to your advantage

  • Start to really study your surroundings. Half of the game is knowing she is interested before you even say a word to her.

  • Learn what your frame is. Establish it early and make sure she knows she is gracing your presence, not the other way around.

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Post Information
Title Lone Wolf
Author The_Titleist
Upvotes 252
Comments 63
Date 21 December 2015 07:12 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/39103
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3xqjv2/lone_wolf/
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[–][deleted] 22 points22 points | Copy

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[–]IamBigComfy17 points18 points  (10 children) | Copy

And keep in mind, op put a disclaimer saying this type of thing works 1 in 5 times.

I definitely needed to be reminded to "establish dominance" in the interaction. Was at a party on Saturday, chatted up a little cutie and pulled her number. We were talking about interests but once it was clear that we had very different ones, she was like on job interview mode. It didn't phase me, but would have been much better if I had directed the conversation better.

I feel like I'm at the point where I can collect phone numbers like Pokemon cards (big step for me), escalating further is proving more challenging.

Edit: also, cheers OP, this is an awesome FR for me because I end up solo mode in bars every once in a while for a late supper, so this type of game would be pretty useful in my routine.

[–]1mr_nate_6 points7 points  (5 children) | Copy

Agreed, cold approaching and grabbing numbers is easy — but the next step requires healthy abundance mentality and patience.

[–]Nieben12 points13 points  (4 children) | Copy

Really though, numbers mean nothing. A girl will give you her number even if she isn't interested in you, you are just definitively above the creep threshold.

[–]2awalt_cupcake0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This. I'm in the same phase as /u/IamBigComfy. Most of the time I do get a response first text from the girls but after I reveal myself (even if a few texts later) they go silent. They're just bored, want validation, or who the fuck knows.

[–]antariusz1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

Some of them just collect guys numbers as trophies.

Just like how guys can get hung up on WHY they are getting a girl's number. Girls can get hung up on WHY they are giving out their number in the first place.

[–]2awalt_cupcake-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Like that girl who collected used condoms from all her sexual partners. I sure as hell don't collect shit. Thats creepy. Girls are creepy.

[–]RedPharaohRising4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'll trade you my promo mewtwo for a hb8 # brah

[–]idgaf-0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

I also had an interaction that taught me I need to establish dominance.

She was a huge talker so I just let her talk. Hell even when I started to talk she would interrupt me. I didn't really want to continue so I gave a very stupid reason to drive back to my place and she took it anyway.

But without dominance, made it hard to escalate (even back at my place) and turns out she's just batshit crazy anyway. Even with her being so invested (tons of talking, >30 mins away from home on a work night) getting a sexual vibe going was overly difficult. Lots of problems in her life, apparently. Ended up sending her away so I could sleep. She also got pissed after she spotted my other girl's trash in a trash can. Was too tired to A&A.

Overall though very educational night. Learn more from failures and tough situations than easy ones.

Lessons learned: don't let a bitch talk on about shit that I'm not really interested in. Clean yo trash cans.

[–]1mr_nate_2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy

turns out she's just batshit crazy

Sounds like it — maybe you dodged a bullet with that one.

[–]TheMGhandi0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

He no longer needs to dodge bullets.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy

nice one, I used to lone wolf a lot more often and whilst I did have fun with it I my tact, or lack of, was to run game chickenhead style; unashamedly hit on everyone. I was witty and flirty enough to do but I'd end up going to far with my banter a lot and not calming things down enough to seal the deal so whilst I had fun it was frustrating.

It was good to read about how you watched and waited for so long and seemed to have nailed the first girl you talked to, easy to fuck up when you haven't warmed up

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 30 points31 points  (8 children) | Copy

Full disclosure

This was not the first girl I talked to that night. I am not a pickup God. She was actually the fourth. I wanted to focus on the success so newer members have a data point to fall back on when things are going right.

[–][deleted] 17 points18 points  (1 child) | Copy

ahh fair enough, I think it's ok to put in a small line disclaiming something like that because it makes it seem more realistic, as well as takes pressure off a bit imo.

sometimes I find it inspiring when I see people make a small failure in something they're succesful in, because it means that they're human just like everyone else but they peservere and don't make a big deal of shit that doesn't go right, but that might just be me

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy

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What is this?

[–]Extract1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

Honestly, it's more important to list the failures, and explain in detail what you did right, and what you did wrong (if any of course, sometimes you don't really have much of a chance for anything more than a conversation to begin with).

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

While I agree to an extent. I'd rather not have guys go out there looking for whats going wrong. In my mind that is a recipe for failure. I want guys to create a positive feedback loop in their minds. This starts by knowing what a positive response is and how to react to that. I think for the most part they know what the negative ones are.

[–]Extract1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I was gonna argue my point, but I see what you're saying. We're talking about two different things though.

You are talking about showing guys how to deal with feedback (though, on a related note, it's important to know how to deal with mixed feedback, and how to interpret it), I'm talking about what to do in order for the feedback to be positive, and what exactly leads to negative feedback.

To make clear what I mean, when you go out you shouldn't be "looking for what's wrong", but only because you should have looked at it way before that - whichever "persona" you chose (more laid back, more agressive), whichever cloths you wear, all those things, you should have thought of before hand. When it's already decided, "looking for what's wrong" is a recipe for disaster because if you didn't get it right ahead of time, chances are you're gonna fuck up even more in a more stressful situation. But the way you act, the things your saying, should be practiced to near perfection beforehand. Everybody makes mistakes, no need to go analyzing yourself all night while you talk to girls (at least not retroactively), but you should choose how to act beforehand and stick to that.
Or maybe I didn't get you, and we're talking about completely different things.

[–]douglas_yancie0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I honestly would like to hear more about the crashes and what signals made you know it was a lost cause and why. Make no mistake, the original FR was awesome and interesting. But im into the meta of the why nots and the no's as well as the whys and the yes's

[–]ChadJr6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy

Great post really love the formatting hard to come by nowadays

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thanks, man! I take a lot of pride in my formatting.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy

Thank you so much. Not an hour ago I was thinking "why have I not seen a post about a guy who goes to a bar alone and explains everything like I'm an idiot?" (not sarcasm).

[–]thatblondeguy_10 points11 points  (9 children) | Copy

Nice post.

Question : when you talk with the girls are you actually thinking “You’re here to get laid, right? Or you do you just need to repair your ego” before you say “Is that why you’re over here? To get away from her?”

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 7 points8 points  (8 children) | Copy

Good question. Did I think those exact lines? No. What I am articulating there is what the subcontext of the conversation was.

What I said was: “Is that why you’re over here? To get away from her?”

What I was saying between the lines was: “You’re here to get laid, right? Or you do you just need to repair your ego”

Does that make sense?

[–]thatblondeguy_7 points8 points  (6 children) | Copy

English isn't my first language so sometimes it's hard to express myself properly. What I mean is, are you actually consciously thinking the subtext but speaking... the "sugarcoated" version? Hope you can understand this time

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 13 points14 points  (5 children) | Copy

Ok. Yes! In my head that is the question that I want to directly ask. But You can't be that direct with women. So i asked question layered in subtlety so as to ask indirectly.

[–]thatblondeguy_7 points8 points  (2 children) | Copy

That's awesome. It's kind of like speaking in a foreign language then. Have you read about powertalk/straight talk/baby talk?

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 13 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy

I have actually. When I came to this sub about a year ago was my first exposure with it. If anyone hasn't heard of it. The sidebar is just to the right

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Nice. At first I also was kinda confused by the direct tone. Great field report.

[–]Evileddie132 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy

This is my biggest hang up, being very direct. Instead of relaxing and really focusing on calibration, I go for a dominant tone. In my last encounter, it back fired. Can I ask, why don't you 'work' a room, when you lone wolf? I realize you talked to four other girls, but did you talk to everyone?

[–]J_AsapGem0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

the right indirect questions can create seductive insinuation, which you did pretty good, she pretty much was indicating " i want to fuck "

[–]Profdiddy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I was hoping this was true. As I read the lines I thought 'nobody talks like that.' and was confused.

[–]PrideSc21 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy

I don't consider my self ready to give advice in this sub, but I will say this from experience regarding clubbing or hitting a bar alone. Never ever act like an ass or even try to black knight a bitch. ever. Woman are absolutely fucking ruthless if you devalue you them in any way and don't find you attractive. I had a night where I called a woman a bitch and she proceeded to get 3-4 orbiters confront me saying that I "touched her" If I didn't have my friends with me at the time, I would have gotten the shit kicked out of me. SHE LIED and manipulated MEN to do her dirty work.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

then u shuda run. If it's a busy club it's not hard to blend in with the rest of the crowd.

Not to be too critical but you shouldn't be calling a girl you just met a bitch. PLAYFUL teasing, negging etc.

[–]1mr_nate_2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy

This post really resonated with me. You're almost like a more experienced version of me. We have identical morals, social circles, and attitudes when pursuing chicks — but I'm not at the point you're at yet. It's almost like you have lenses that pierce through what people say to see what people really mean.

This Field Report is definitely something to be replicated by more experienced Red Pill members. Newer members will have trouble establishing their frame, picking up on her cues, and knowing when to seal the deal. This also runs counter to a lot of newbie's beliefs that they have to be the tip-top power god in whatever setting they reside in to bag chicks — you need a healthy balance of aggressiveness and soothing calmness.

[–]notgivefuck-5 points-4 points  (1 child) | Copy

Lol, go try to replicate his experience and let me know how that goes.

[–]SW98761 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy

I think it would be more clear if you said "Translation for AFC". When you say to it makes it sound like, "Translation from step 1 to step 2".

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Good point. I will edit when I get back to my computer

[–]thefisherman196111 points12 points  (7 children) | Copy

it’s a good movie

I disagree. It's mediocre.

[–]Teatach7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy

The new ways to rate movies are: "It was a OK movie 10/10." "It was a really good movie 20/10."

[–]Namkcalb 7 points7 points [recovered] | Copy

It's good, but deriverative. It was pretty much a remake of a new hope

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy

To each his own. I thought it was awesome.

[–]random_name_pi5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

As a stand alone movie: average. As the continuation of a 30 yo genre defined: pretty good. Good FR btw.

[–]gonorealover0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

This is either pure bullshit or you're 6 ft with a 8/10 face.

There is no way that conversation with the HB8 went like you claim .

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Well I am 6'3" and I think I look pretty good. What is so hard to believe about it?

[–]J_AsapGem0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This was very smooth i enjoyed this, i think the most important thing you did here is be observant, and that's one thing i'm working on, being conscious in the moment. Out of Curiousity how tall are you? she was very receptive to you so the attraction level was pretty high, it's funny how easy it is though isn't it? dress good, get fit and you're practically in the winning lane.

[–]Mithra90090 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

From what I've read elsewhere, people will generally have a fat person in the group because that person makes everyone else look better. Their beauty gets emphasised compared to when standing alone because we measure beauty relatively. Perhaps you fell for it and rated an 8 as a 9.

Nonetheless, thanks. The part where you identify that the trio of girls like the fact that they're getting attention but are frustrated by the quality of the men they're receiving it from was very interesting. I always assumed that for a woman, the quality of the attention is completely dependent on the quality of the one giving it so women really, really don't want attention from unattractive men at all. They'd rather be ignored by such men, if possible. They just tolerate it because being attractive to the ones they want to seen by means being attractive to these men as well. It's like children eating broccoli just so that they can get cake afterwards. It seems that the attention of unattractive men is desired, just not them. I never imagined that attention and the one giving it were actually divorced from each other but considering the reaction of feminists to sexbots earlier this year, I guess it all checks out.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

That last conversation part. Smooth. As. Fuck. Awesome.

Most of my friends are on holiday next Saturday, I may just go out alone and see how it goes using some of your stuff. Great post!

[–]poochman0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

The motioning over after eye contact trick works great for me too. Funny how women can be lead by strangers without even using words. They almost always come over and I may or may not blow it based on the game I run afterwards. Now I know a good follow up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Hey man, how old are my parents? Mine are near 60 and they get to bed around 9 lol

[–]rajesh81620 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Law 38. Think as you like, but behave as others.

[–]daygamer690 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Close, but I think one piece of your advice is flawed. It's not efficient to study your surroundings so logically/analytically.

Nobody can truly predict whether a girl will be interested before they even talk to her, calibrate your game after you find out, not before. I've approached happy smiling girls who instantly snap into angry girls and I've approached grumpy/bored girls who instantly snap into angels.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Lone wolf is my favorite. I find it easier than going in groups of friends. Also agree about meeting women in small groups than big groups. When you meet in big groups there is always at least one who will cock block.

Whether that is a feminist fatty or a white knight mangina. There's always at least one. Girls in small groups tend to be looking for cock. It makes logical sense to me. There is less people there to judge her. Her friends are looking for dick too.

It's easier to win over her friends to make them your cheerleaders. Which is important in picking women up in bars, clubs, or parties. The only thing left to deal with is logistics. I live close to the bars i go to. Literally walking distance.

Also agree about being the guy who is in control. A lot of guys out looking to get laid are trying to qualify themselves as candidates. Be the one who is doing the qualifying. Or be the chooser so to speak.

This can he hard for some men but I think spending some time on TRP or reading some of the stories about how shitty women can be then you will immediately be thinking why men ever put them up on a pedestal.

[–]notgivefuck0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

When you lone wolf, you have to own it.

[–]greatmikeshark-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

Finally someone who doesn't get butt hurt because he has to do everything TRP way.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy

These field reports always make me laugh because I imagine that none of this actually happened. Or OP was sitting in the corner scribbling down notes while sipping on a fruity drink.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy

Instead of insulting a stranger on the internet, why not go out and try it? Even if you end up just sitting by yourself scribbling notes about what is happening and sipping a fruity drink, you have a better shot at getting laid than at your computer at home.

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[–]RPmatrix-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy

haha, beautiful Game bro

nicely explained

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

Meh; frame is just hamstering. And even then; you might want to get checked out. Clinics are free in some places; and if you fuck as much as you say you do, you've got a disease.

[–]nicechallenge-1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy

To be honest I can't believe this shit, suddenly she wants to have sex with you only after a few lines. Are you as ripped as Zyzz or do you have a lambo?

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I drive an F150 and I don't take steroids



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