As of now 60% of Japan has gone MGTOW. Race is on its way to extinction.

SufficientGlass · 2018-09-16T10:54:03+00:00

That Quora article you linked is actually quite good.

The Japanese culture turned out to be very good at figuring out what little details in a relationship is actually important to us on a deep level

Sex could be replaced through masturbation with VR and other tools and an advanced pornographic culture, or prostitution

Deep personal conversations, blowing off steam about your manager or best friend could be had through special business who cater to specifically this with trained hostess staff who have regulars.

Having your head on someone's lap while watching a movie - also available

These "services" that a normal regular wife that used to offer branched off as separate businesses. Instead of having to pay for your wife with all your earnings at the end of her "growing apart", you just pay for what you use and when you use.

Importantly they've figured out what matters to men and made a business out of it. I believe the world will follow. I'd expect these services spring up in west in not too distant future.

heavywepsguy · 2018-09-16T11:12:13+00:00

This part of the author's response:

[Edit: This is the first time on Quora I have locked comments. The reasons was not abusive comments, but that an anonymous Quora admin has for the first time in my Quora history taken upon herself or himself to remove my responses to the comments, so that they are left unanswered from my end, without justification or explanation. Under these circumstances I cannot have commenting on, regardless of how passionately I favor open debate and discussion, as it makes the boat lean so much that it sinks. I am sorry about this, for all you who would want to continue talking about the answer in the comments.]

Too little, too late cucks. Can't put the shit back into the horse.

Sir_manalot · 2018-09-16T10:19:18+00:00

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Tsukikoselenia · 2018-09-16T11:23:36+00:00

And probably the #1 reason is that the entire job system over there is designed to give your Japanese wife your entire paycheck and let her manage your finances. Men receive an allowance of their own money they earned by their wives to spend as they please and it's not much. Married men do not get a choice of where their paycheck goes. It always goes to your wife's bank account.

But my main reason why I don't date Japanese women any more is their aversion to public displays of affection. No hand holding, no hugs, no kisses. Makes you feel unloved and depressed. You might as well be strangers so why even have a relationship?

They're chasing after foreigners who are still willing to sit through their shit long enough to get their fix then dump them. They'll learn soon on this part.

Hands down, Chinese women are better than Japanese women in these regards but Chinese women are more expensive to keep in the long haul and less likely to be a high income earner themselves. So they can be a bigger financial drain.

RadikalesRadiergummi · 2018-09-16T10:30:11+00:00

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Anish_yamaha · 2018-09-16T10:49:08+00:00

interesting that guy had to lock his quora post because all his responses about the subject were being deleted by an admin

Tsukikoselenia · 2018-09-16T12:42:02+00:00

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3rd_viewpoint · 2018-09-16T13:59:10+00:00

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EnslavedOpethFan053 · 2018-09-16T12:31:44+00:00

The author of that article lives in Sweden.

Don't cry for him. He's already dead.

the_unseen_one · 2018-09-16T15:16:23+00:00

The West is a lot closer to this than you'd thinj, we've just managed to slap a bandage over it by importing immigrants hand over fist. The problem with that us we have reached the number of immigrants that we can tolerate or use, and once those immigrants children are naturalized, their men also rapidly lose interest in marriage and breeding for the same reasons westerners do. All importing these immigrants succeeded in doing is buying us a few more decades, and providing the illusion of healthy population growth.

Interesting times are coming. We're rapidly reaching a point in which normal men, without any of our vitriol, are independently deciding that marriage, fatherhood, and women in general are not worth the massive risk and cost. Risk and cost which comes with zero respect, payback, or reward. Women fought tooth and nail for a system in which they can treat normal men like trash, ignore our sacrifice and commitment, and provide absolutely nothing in return. They thought this would free them from a prison that never existed, but really all it did was trap them in a downward spiral with the rest of us.

Go your own way, men. You can't stop this, but at least you can try to enjoy your life before it all goes up in flames.

TheLastMgtow · 2018-09-16T11:26:46+00:00

>They're chasing after foreigners who are still willing to sit through their shit long enough to get their fix then dump them. They'll learn soon on this part.

Hey, just for the record. Women dont do this. Women monkeybranch. They never have the balls to break up with a man. They will whine, nag, and try to destroy his soul before leaving. Talking straightforward and dumping for a specific reason and be direct and honest is a male specific quality. It takes effort and discomfort for a man to swallow his pride and not break up when it should be done. Women instead have no problem with cheating first, and postponing.

Japan and south korea will have the same end.

In Europe they found an alternative system, where instead of letting it slowly colapse, they will create pockets of conflict and pressure that tend to renew the cycle of patriarchy/feminism. And you guessed it, at the detriment of native male populations, and the importation of migrants.

It wouldn't suprise me if Japan changed its immigration policy for the same effect.

3rd_viewpoint · 2018-09-16T10:56:17+00:00

there is also host club for women (with manga like man)

good to know that women in japan suffers the same sexual misery as men haha

Rimefang · 2018-09-16T12:43:30+00:00

Ah hell no! Japan can't extinct now! Who is going to make my Anime?! For fuck sake!

mongolian_usa · 2018-09-16T10:21:37+00:00

Well, to be fair I think we might of had something to do with it. They haven't been right since we dropped the bomb on them. Twice.

VAJattConfederate · 2018-09-16T13:28:20+00:00

Japan was not killed by womens liberation, Japan is far more anti-feminist than the west, it's being killed by long work hours and a culture of submission to hierarchy if anything.

GoDuke2018 · 2018-09-16T12:09:49+00:00

good...do not give into these feminists entitled privilidged whores. They will divorce rape, alimony rape, cs maintenance rape, false poundmetoo rape, false dv accusation rape and on and on. wake the hell up guys and. just "dont do it". unless you are chad or tyrone you will be financial raped by feminists. dont ever raise tyrones kids. walk the fuck away. #manout

2018-09-16T11:33:26+00:00

Conservative Eastern cultures are the same. Hope men awaken in Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, China and the SE Asia.

CeleritySteam · 2018-09-16T14:24:00+00:00

So fun fact. Dragon Quest is about the biggest RPG series in Japan, as in they have actual laws on when a new game in the series can be released so it doesn't harm their national economy with everyone staying home from work at once. And Dragon Quest games are full of fucking red pills (at least the originals, the SJW remakes not as much) with 7 and 11 being the biggest examples followed by 4. So many fucking AWALT stories, I'd say at least half the plot points involving a female character are fucking AWALT stories. Japanese media is full of these and full of female characters who are actually decent human beings with respectable character traits yet are still feminine.

They know. They know what they want. They're telling people what they want and they're warning people away from what they are worried about.

And... people aren't listening.

So what I think is gonna happen is China is gonna make artificial wombs so their excess males don't revolt and the rest of the world will either copy them or be dominated economically by those who do. It should go without saying this will result in a peaceful sunset for the thots as no one need ever make any more, at that point.

I suppose Japan could do it instead but China has more resources and immediate pressure on themselves.

IronMeltsinmyHands · 2018-09-16T13:19:07+00:00

I mean, hey, in a couple decades, there'll be more real estate around. Sooooo, thank you, women of Japan, for finally opening doors to colonialism. [Fun fact I realized recently [I was not a fan of books earlier in my life, shut up.], he who controls the land, controls what ideas are passed onto the people.]

Dear God it makes so much sense now whey religions did not want women to have any power or be organized as any group.

ovrload · 2018-09-16T12:42:17+00:00

I’m from Australia and I’ve noticed a lot of young Japanese women here now. Probably on working holiday and student visas. Japanese women are whores to any tall white guy

elementalwalruss · 2018-09-16T14:09:39+00:00

When you think about it, all of this could be solved if there was actual equality. If women also had to approach men, if she was average, she also goes for average men (not just the top), if taxes/paychecks were the same, laws the same for all for all of them etc.

Equality in femspeech just means give me more priviledges. And thing is, if they get too many and then men say that they have too much, they start bitching so they can't really take it back either.

NoThirst · 2018-09-16T15:41:24+00:00

...some (I'm not saying ALL) of this is rooted in economics. To marry a Japanese woman a man MUST own a house. The bride and her family insist on this. If he does not, he is worthless and not an eligible husband. Most Japanese men cannot afford a house anymore. Japanese women also are not shy about stating they will only marry a man making x amount of money. When Japanese men do marry...in general their wives will quickly quit work to have kids. Japanese women typically manage all of the family finances, many supplying the husband with a monthly allowance. Japanese women are very devoted mothers...the husband quickly becomes only a paycheck and later a target of hatred. Some parts sound familiar.

its_meKnightSwolaire · 2018-09-16T12:47:45+00:00

Annnnddd Quora locked his post

dontdoxxyoself · 2018-09-16T14:42:14+00:00

In the comments that made it up before being locked, I saw lots of people mentioning that herbivore men are just not very masculine or are parasites that don't want to separate from mommy and daddy.

But, I thought masculinity was toxic and a boy should love his mommy. FFS, if you GYOW, you're both toxically masculine and a simp AT THE SAME TIME to these females and their supporters with a Y chromosome.

rossquaza · 2018-09-16T13:51:47+00:00

1945: America was like, "As part of your surrender, you need to give your women rights just like us." I would have been like, nah fam fight me.

Icsparks · 2018-09-16T15:37:39+00:00

Dated 2 Japanese girls for a few months in NYC. They only cared about dinners and brunches. To their defense I can say that once you provided the meals you could do almost whatever the F you wanted sexually and they were always available for sex and were pretty loyal in the sense that they didn’t flirt with other guys while around me. Meaning they were not such attention hores as many western women.

EvilCoyote · 2018-09-16T12:09:01+00:00

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whackPanther · 2018-09-16T21:27:53+00:00

I've been there. It's beautiful. The men are workhorses yes, maybe even moreso than American work culture, but they're happy. They don't have the death in their eyes that I was told to find. Their lives seemed like their own.

Entire video game arcades filled with men in suits coming back from work, tiny amusement parks attended by men with no families in sight.

They've taken their lives back and it really looked like a glorious existence.

anongogogo · 2018-09-16T15:25:26+00:00

I'm surprise it hasn't gone 90% yet. You literally have to give your entire income to your wife if you get marry there. Sex in Japan isn't even hard to get with all the countless amount of JAV actresses.

In fact, you can fuck countless pussy as long as you can manage a job and don't spend on stupid things.

GoDuke2018 · 2018-09-16T17:59:44+00:00

This is great news for mgtow. Men finally pulling away from the plantarion matrix after taking redpill. Denying feminists our hard earned resources. If strong empowered feminists are so strong and empowered, they can slave away 40-50 hours like men do. Good, good, let them work their entitled lives away, fuck em. # manout

2018-09-16T13:08:04+00:00

If you think that is crazy, check out South Korea, .96 replacement rate ffs lmfao! Goodbye South Korea.

2018-09-16T16:29:23+00:00

Wow, so many comments on this quora thread are just baseless anecdotes pretending to be based on research. Pretty common that people aren't able to distinguish their anecdotes versus statistically relevant conclusions. i.e. a bunch of female solipsism-- thinking their perspective is the only one on earth.

Niggatonic · 2018-09-16T13:37:48+00:00

not sure if this is in the comments, but probably not...

japan is literally being cuckolded by US. the US has many military bases in japan and the US military members are chadding it up there bigtime. i personally know a black US marine with a japanese wife lol

internet_juice · 2018-09-16T21:22:40+00:00

I was in Hawaii recently and met a Japanese couple on their honeymoon. I saw the bride flirt with so many guys, almost a certainty she is cucking the guy. I feel bad for the 40% of japanese men who are too blind to see their wives/girlfriends for what they are.

dynamicflashy · 2018-09-16T17:07:12+00:00

It's not just in Japan

Blissbynature · 2018-09-16T17:22:01+00:00

As huge numbers of Japanese males shrug off relationships, the Japanese females are chasing the foreign men. Seems like mgtow in America might be good for foreign men who come here wanting American women.

haymansafc · 2018-09-16T18:37:36+00:00

They're probably sick of becoming victims of hypergamy, like many are in the western world. Enough's enough and gynocentrism has got to be called out for what it is, somewhere...

HonoluluLion · 2018-09-16T18:41:04+00:00

A lot of you guys aren't even mgtow, just hoping the way women act "gets better" so you can go right back into the blue pill thinking lol who cares

Zombocom1911 · 2018-09-16T19:23:29+00:00

time to bring back the dowry system, and pay vast sums of money to get men to commit, and methinks that women will be absolutely shocked at the prices (MILLIONS)

EmptyNewspaper · 2018-09-17T05:19:49+00:00

As of now 60% of Japan has gone MGTOW. Race is on its way to extinction.

MISSION: ACCOMPLISHED

cobaltcolander · 2018-09-16T11:48:30+00:00

Good post. I love Japan, very much. I hope your predictions turn out to be wrong, OP, but I can't deny that you have make a good point.

Cristoff13 · 2018-09-16T11:59:22+00:00

No I am not concerned for Japan's future. This is what's necessary, long term, to get their population down to a more sustainable level. The population will get much older for a time. This is unavoidable. In due time the birth rate will increase.

genethedog · 2018-09-16T12:52:19+00:00

It's crazy how they don't know when to stop. It really is the best demonstration of their inability to adapt due to their high level narcissism and entitlement. To see there's a problem, to have a relatively clear understanding of what's going on, and then to double down and keep digging.

Dig Up Stupid

MenGoingTOWin · 2018-09-16T15:34:03+00:00

Here is a somewhat-translated version of the survey (graphics are not translated)

And here is the original Japanese

Keep in mind this is a survey and not a census, so it's a rough estimate which may be lead by blocking issues or other forms of bias, but it does seem that japanese-MGTOW has already reached the tipping point. It would be interesting to watch how the next generation changes over there due to insanely low birth weight and many women being unable to support themselves further.

Japanese culture has generally trended ahead in social issues when compares to the USA. Will a submissive model be restored? Will they legally mandate cucking? Will any of these men want to go back if it did?

urban_hermit91 · 2018-09-16T18:41:39+00:00

Don't be paranoid my brother. These things have a way of working themselves out. This outrageous, run away feminism is a newer phenomenon... maybe 5 years. Everyone is taking notice, and once these idiot thots prove to the world that they are utterly useless... useless at work, producing no children for the govt, a burden on society, there will be a massive correction.

AttackinTheCops · 2018-09-16T19:29:35+00:00

Still, fun as hell place to visit.

deathtocontrollers · 2018-09-16T20:22:21+00:00

Women always double down.

2018-09-17T00:07:57+00:00

Just waiting on a sex doll that cleans the house and my mess when I use it.

ALTMGTOWACCOUNT · 2018-09-17T09:29:22+00:00

Women destroy nations, and they eagerly invite conquerors.

2018-09-16T13:02:10+00:00

Life fuel

Tookthemethpill · 2018-09-16T15:22:05+00:00

this is good for MGTOW

2018-09-16T15:54:04+00:00

I will gladly step up to help the Japanese. Show me to my harem, please.

Graypube88 · 2018-09-16T16:55:12+00:00

Good 👍

Jonlife · 2018-09-16T17:20:26+00:00

Dude got censored on quora

RighteousSouljah · 2018-09-16T18:29:55+00:00

Incredible. Coming to a country near you.

Mitchell78 · 2018-09-16T18:57:18+00:00

From what i understand the Japanese government is doubling down on feminism doing nothing to create incentive for men.

hardtostarboard2016 · 2018-09-16T20:51:32+00:00

There are still alphas to fux but no more betas to bux. Predilection checks out.

Mintoxicatedlyace · 2018-09-16T22:32:26+00:00

Women will just go lesbian, as they easily go from being straight to in a lesbian relationship when in the right environment. I’ve seen it first hand in female sporting clubs. This is what feminists want coz they’re all hairy man hating lesbians.

5channel · 2018-09-16T22:38:38+00:00

worry about your own country

2018-09-17T00:57:46+00:00

What does this mean for the future? Are they gonna end up mixing the population more with foreigners or are they all gonna leave and end up not being a world power

badmanahgwanso · 2018-09-17T03:08:49+00:00

According to this very recent article Hong Kong is not too far behind:

https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/families/article/2147743/how-herbivores-hermits-and-stay-home-men-are-leaving-generation

Given that their culture is more materialistic and less polite than Japan's culture, this doesn't surprise me in the least. The woman who wrote the piece is a former sex talk show host who seems near or at the wall, which of course explains the judgmental tone.

2018-09-17T03:28:32+00:00

agree wiht all except the extinction claim. japanese people have been around much longer than we have and will be around for much longer than us.

Atton_Risk · 2018-09-17T03:49:07+00:00

http://nerdreactor.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/date_a_live_u898.jpg The Japanese man also embraces the full power of the waifu.

AngelTe2016 · 2018-09-17T05:30:06+00:00

He was saying that women would simply not ask men out because it would just be all about shaming and twisting the cause-and-effect narrative. Its women who are driving grass eating men to do these "grass eating things". Again this is about not taking accountability which women are professionals at. They would seriously let a society go extinct, instead of self reflection realizing maybe that its the WOMEN that are worthless shit.

jrpark05 · 2018-09-17T06:02:55+00:00

I live in China, and more Western men here are waking up to the reality of Chinese women: that they're demanding, expect you to take care of them, any kids (usually want to "give you" 2-3), HER PARENTS, buy a house (even though real estate in China is outrageous in cities, where most people live and where the jobs are), and a car (not just any car, but a BMW, Benz, or Audi).

Oh, this is while they'll stay glued to their smartphones, pass off all childrearing to their mothers, don't even clean the house, and are extremely shallow.

However, the problem, which I am working on in my way, is that the expats are going after the expat Western women, which are worse. More are going along a path, that while they may not know what it is, is MGTOW. I'm telling as many men as I can.

jrpark05 · 2018-09-17T06:06:51+00:00

Or, how about passing laws that restrain women's wild nature (Calypso was a metaphor), and/or women actually learning skills that make them useful and/or actually staying in decent shape and/or being pleasant?

Nah, too much to ask.

starkfuture · 2018-09-17T10:02:11+00:00

And they have a national debt three times their GDP, right?

Silver lining - no more financial slaves born to service their parents debt. I am all for it.

stupidonparade · 2018-09-17T12:17:53+00:00

Shopping yesterday at Whole Foods and witnessed a fat simp carting around some mulatto kids all alone. No woman to be found. Guessing she sent him to shop for the groceries while she hit Nordstrom Rack next door or stayed at home and called Tyrone over.

Disgusting. I see this all the time. Smart men are staying out of this shit show.

Tsukikoselenia · 2019-01-23T16:56:18+00:00

The comments on this quora answer are absolutely disgusting. EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN know about herbivore men and about how it it caused both by women and by the ridiculous work culture here (look into what Karoshi is if you want to have some "fun"). And yet.

That's one pov. The other side I'm told by locals is that the women are exhausted and don't want to have to work full time plus do all the household stuff for a husband who will never be home and cheat on her when people she rauses the kids. I know women who do their own thing and have no plan to marry because it doesn't seem worth it.

There we go. they're poor victims again. And the man is never at home (he WORKS, retard) and cheat.

For your information, because of the culture here, a man often doesn't even have the money to go to a PUB if his wife woesn't give him some allowance.

Women traditionally manage the finances and decide what you get even if she's a housewie. Yes I know, it's an absolutely horrible idea if you want your home to survive. Luckily it becomes less and less common but thanks to tradition, it still exists.

They basically just flipped off the mgtow speech and completely skipped the fact that if a man isn't borderline rich, or at least significantly above average, marrying him is, quote, "unthinkable". But nah. The problem with herbivore men is men cheating. They don't even give a crap about females as a whole, but they're problematic because they'd be lazy and cheat. women really have a victim complex and men are terrible at enabling it (and people with an asian fetish believing everything an asian woman will tell him because they're angels are even worse).

Valk_Eir · 2018-09-16T19:45:36+00:00

rockorbe2002 · 2018-09-16T13:16:44+00:00

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As of now 60% of Japan has gone MGTOW. Race is on its way to extinction.

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Title	As of now 60% of Japan has gone MGTOW. Race is on its way to extinction.
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