Hello, It's Me...

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January 7, 2016
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Summary:

Someone once told me that if I wanted to find something revolutionary in bodybuilding, read a book from 100 years ago. So I pulled out the old school PUA playbook and started calling girls whose texts had gone cold.


Body:

We live in an age of hyper-connectivity. However, actual communication is at an all-time low (I base this fact on absolutely nothing). I was looking through my texts the other night and realized that there must be 50 dead conversations in there from sluts who gave me their number over the past year and never bothered to text me back. Or, we had a short boring conversation and it died there instead.

What am I doing wrong?

I wouldn’t say that I am a master at text game. As a matter of fact, I hate it. I love people. Everything that I love about people is stripped away when I send a text message. There is no tone, no passion. That’s when it finally hit me…

I cannot generate tingles with a text message.

I’ve been alive for how many years? How did I never think to call women? I guess it’s because I associate my phone with work/horrible conversations with my parents about my day/”I’m a millennial whose too good for old school technology”. However, I was in for the night and looking for some fun, so I channeled my inner Mystery, picked up the phone and started calling.

CALL #1: Belle

Belle – “Umm, hello?”

TT – “Hey Belle, It’s The_Titleist. How have you been?”

Belle – “Who?”

TT – “The_Titleist, we met at [Other Local Bar] a month or so back.”

Belle – “I’m sorry, I have to go.”

Damn, that didn’t go well

The next three calls I made went straight to voicemail. I can only assume that they never saved my number and pressed the fuck you button as soon as they saw some random no named person calling them. This was a little disheartening at first so I made myself a rule. If the girl messaged “who is this” or a one word response when I messaged them initially they were complete no-go’s and deleted from my phone. How about Dana, she was fun to talk to for a few days

Call #5: Dana

Dana – “Oh, hey?! Haven’t talked to you in a while.”

TT – “I know! What a disappointment since we had such a good time when we met.”

Dana – “A good time? My friends thought you were the biggest dick bag they’d ever seen.”

TT – “Sucks for them if they don’t appreciate my humor, but you did.” (Read that with a sly smirk)

Dana – “Haha I guess so, I don’t give my number out to just anybody you know.” Now we’re getting somewhere

TT – “I remember you like martinis.” She must have had 5 of them when we first met.

Dana – “Only when they’re made well.” This girl is showing serious interest, lets go for it

TT – “You’re in luck, I can make a martini that would cause James Bond to burst into tears of joy.” Cheesy, but who gives a fuck

Dana – “Well I’d love to, but I’m at my parents’ house right now. Rain check?”

PAUSE

This is interesting to me because I cannot tell over the phone if this is a shit test or not. I wish I could verify it because it sounds like one, but she could just as easily be at her parents’ house. I proceed as if it were and respond with an agree and pressure flip. I did this because I want her to commit to something in the future and at the same time tell me if there is genuine interest there or not.

Back to the action

TT – “Ok. My offer Is good for 3 days.”

Dana – “Well, I get back home tomorrow, how about Sunday? That’s within your limit, haha.” I guess I passed this one

TT – “Cool, see you then.” I hang up the phone Gotta keep a little dread going.

UPDATE: She texted me today, looks like my date is still on

There might be something to this phone game

It turns out girls are responsive to guys calling them. I guess it’s the novelty of it since I’m now one for two. (I refuse to count the fuck you button) But, I’m still looking for right now. I continue going through my phone. Calls 6 through 11 follow a similar pattern to the one with Belle and I’m starting to lose hope. Past 830 were reaching into booty call territory and that has a bad enough reputation considering I’m trying to revive dead text conversations. I make my next call, to Cherry.

Call #12: Cherry

Cherry – “Oh hey, this is unexpected.”

TT – “There’s that phrase again.”

Cherry – “Again? Haha, I take it I wasn’t your first call tonight?”

TT – “Nope, you’re number 12 as a matter of fact.” Why lie? This bitch isn’t special, she stopped texting me back for Christ sake.

Cherry – “It’s nice to know where I stand on your rotation.” Playful banter, eh? Time to escalate

TT – “Nah, I’m more like Schmidt from 22 jump street.” Hopefully she gets that reference She had a good time when we met; I can use it with impunity.

Cherry – “Are you going to wear green tights and perform peter pan for me?” Sweet, she does.

TT – “Bring me some green tights and we will see.”

Cherry – “Aww, I don’t have any…”

TT – “Then bring some popcorn and we can watch him perform it instead”

Cherry – “I haven’t seen you in three weeks, though! We’ve only spoken for like an hour.” Shit test identified

TT – “All I remember is making out before your friend tore you away from me.” Respond with agree and amplify

Cherry – “You were pretty hot that night.” Shit test passed

TT – “You only have one life, what do you have to lose?”

Cherry – “Ok, but you better have wine there.”

TT – “Already ahead of you. See you soon.”

Cherry – “Ok, text me your address. Bye.”

TT – “Bye”

I need to make my bed…


Conclusions:

  • Everything old is new again - I took a chance on calling a girl and it paid off

  • Calling girls instead of texting them is a lot more frustrating than it seems.

  • Red Pill Theory works - It works especially well when you can use timing, wit and tone to convey your meaning. Much better than through texting.

  • Supply and Demand - Demand for texting is low because supply is high. Therefore, calling a girl might just work out better.

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Post Information
Title Hello, It's Me...
Author The_Titleist
Upvotes 244
Comments 52
Date 07 January 2016 09:58 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit TheRedPill
Link https://theredarchive.com/post/55161
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/3zxrnz/hello_its_me/
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[–]Endorsed ContributorUrsusG79 points80 points  (8 children) | Copy

It turns out girls are responsive to guys calling them.

Next up: Millenials Rediscover the Wheel!

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy

I'm about as full of myself as they come but that realization made me feel real stupid

[–]1DaBaulz38 points39 points  (0 children) | Copy

You need to inject callback humour that you can refer to on the first text. When you meet her. Bust her balls about something and then when you write her number down, put the joke in the title. Saying 'hey I'm that guy you talked to on sat' reeks of amateur, she probably talked to 10 guys that night and it just isn't interesting.

For example, one girl I met at a bar was talking about how she used to play volleyball, and I told her that I am a volleyball highschool coach, and that she looked like a girl I would bench if I was her coach. I then bugged about this 1-2 more times that night. Well when it came time to text, we had an inside joke so I texted 'hey xxx, coach here its time to get off the bench and prove yourself'. She immediately is reminded about the night and the fun we had. The way you first chat with a girl you should nonchalantly look for some reason to be playful with them. I wrote her name in my phone as "jenny benched volleyball" to remind myself of it.

there are GREAT pua resources that handle this stuff, from people that I consider experts in the field. Specifically regarding texting I would get 'the ultimate phone and text guide' by love systems, magic bullets is also phenomenal too. These are paid guides but worthtotally it. And you can find them free if you know how. They also have good forums for free. I read them a few years ago and my pick up game is phenomenally better ever since.

PS I highly recommend callback humour, it has helped me bed many women. But you have to know when its too far. Never be a one trick woman with a girl.

[–]Senior ContributorNightwingTRP55 points56 points  (1 child) | Copy

Absolutely love your style man. I think one of the things we sometimes undervalue on here is novelty. Taking a chick to a novel place can work wonders. Appearing to be novel in your choice of cheap gift works well too. Anything which separates you from the crowd. Women need to look normal to be attractive, men need to seem abnormal (but in the good way, obviously, for those who are desperate to try and twist that.) We need to stand out from the other men. Whether that's in your style, or your method of contact... novelty is a good thing to experiment with.

Being called by a guy she was interested in is very different to being texted by him. It's in the novelty... and you've got to remember that those bitches hitting the fuck you button or quickly killing the conversation could have their boyfriend in the room, or another chad. Or maybe they were on the rag, or maybe they were feeling angry at the world... whatever, responses like that are mostly because of the chick's feelings at the time.

[–]pillpapa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

...and you've got to remember that those bitches hitting the fuck you button or quickly killing the conversation could have their boyfriend in the room, or another chad. Or maybe they were on the rag, or maybe they were feeling angry at the world... whatever, responses like that are mostly because of the chick's feelings at the time.

And that chick with her boyfriend in the room might be down to text you all night just for the validation of it. Getting the fuck you button is a gift in the sense that you can immediately move on. Plus trying again later after a missed call shows less desperation than trying again after she ignored your text.

[–]complex2128 points29 points  (1 child) | Copy

I always prefer calling and let women know upfront that I'm not a big texter.

This does a couple of things.

  1. It means your time is precious and you are not there to validate her, when she is bored. If I call you it means it's important and my time is fucking important.

  2. It creates a more personal relationship when you speak with them over the phone. I make it a point to say their name over the phone and believe subconsciously they are turned on by this and builds attraction. Works even better If you have a deep voice.

[–]Dr_D1amond7 points8 points  (12 children) | Copy

I'm pretty new to TRP after leaving a LTR, but recently when setting things up with women I figured it was always better to either call or arrange a date face to face in person. you get Instant indications as to how interested they are. If they are interested then you get a yes immediately. If they make an excuse then chances are they arent.

leaving it to a text message gives them time to decide whether or not to bother with you or gives them time to come up with an excuse, which is harder to do when put on the spot. Asking out by text is pretty lame as it is anyway.

Will remember this for the future.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 5 points6 points  (10 children) | Copy

It sounds like you knew it already

[–]Dr_D1amond3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy

eh. i still have a lot to learn but bit by bit its making sense. Every interaction with women i've had recently or in the past ive been able to put into context with RP theory and see what i did wrong and what i did right.

[–]Epoh2 points3 points  (8 children) | Copy

Than your smarter than I am, fuck I’m banging my head against the wall trying to bang someone. I try but despite the fact I am considered smart in one area, I’m really a dumbass.

[–]jkhattra5 points6 points  (7 children) | Copy

Don't call yourself a dumbass, keep learning from your mistakes and move on.

[–]Epoh0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy

So my roommate had a party at our pad tonight, and I’m chatting with these chicks and I genuinely can’t tell why they aren’t interested. I’m a good looking guy, but I can see in their face they aren’t buyin what I’m selling. I can hold their attention for a bit, but it must be my sub communication or something.

[–]Joseph_the_Carpenter1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy

Perhaps you are coming off as needy, or desperate?

[–]Epoh0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy

I really tried to monitor that but I can’t tell.

[–]jkhattra0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy

From what I've heard so far it sounds like you're somewhat desperate, and whether you can tell or not that might be leaking into your body language or even your tone of voice. Try meditating before bed each day, it really helps calm your nerves and gives you that I don't give a fuck attitude.

[–]Epoh0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Dude I meditate for like 40 mins a day everyday and study mindfulness for a job. Unfortunately despite the fact I have seen women in a completely different light in part thanks to this sub, I can’t really assume the qualities that take advantage of that knowledge or I don’t know how to in fast moving social contexts.

[–]fortheloveofpercy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's closer to a face to face interaction. It puts both you on your feet. There's absolutely no time to think about your response like texting.

[–]throwaway-aa24 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy

this is a good point. why the fuck do I text all these girls? They don't get to really be in my presence, and as such they usually end up blowing me off because there is no pressure with a text... but if I call them, I get to charm them, improvise, and put them on the spot in a way I can't do with text.

It's so funny how women respond most positively to being put in a compromising position. I'd rather be easy and text... but I have to get in her personal space, call her and bug her, whatever she may be doing...

[–]Valentinus91715 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

"My offer is good for three days" I'm adding that to standard operating procedure. If you have a can of tomato sauce that will last for 20 years before going bad, and an actual tomato, you put move value in the tomato because it expires.

[–]Sdom13 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy

Another weird aspect of text vs phone: I was listening to a talk by an ER doc who said that when nonverbal stroke victims would come in (stroke victims generally think they're talking to you but gibberish is coming out), he can give them their phone and text them and they can communicate with him.

In other words, communicating by text uses a different part of your brain. He claimed that this is why people are so much colder, impersonal and mean online.

I tend to think that it's more because there's less accountability, but whatever.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy

Great FR OP, it's always interesting to see an out of the box one.

Calling girls instead of texting them is a lot more frustrating than it seems.

This is because it carries the risk of rejection which is the major cause approach anxiety, once you got past the anxiety "Oh it's lame to call women." "She'll never respond." "This seems like a dumb idea.", what you find is that women are perfectly reasonable, if they're not interested they're not interested, if they are they are.

Ultimately what gets you laid gets you laid, looking down on a perfectly viable method is a mug's game, and it's usually because of approach anxiety, calling them out of the blue is no worse than dolling up and going out to a club or daygaming cold approaches to try get a number, of the two it's likely closer to the latter, and we know which one is definitely more respectable.

Just make sure you aren't doing this to women whose encounter went horribly wrong, it's fine if you didn't close, but not if an event happened that got you put into the beta category, because she'll only remember you as one or the other, and you haven't got time to orbit women.

In addition to this, becoming more prominent on your social media in a way that broadcasts your high SMV is a good way to get these sort of missed connections.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy

Shit, I just deleted all numbers from girls that stopped messaging me back or did not even messaged me at all yesterday. Great post. Sounds like a fun thing to do while being bored on a holiday afternoon, just too see what results I can get.

[–]UmbrellaCorp19616 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy

The contacts would still be available on google.com/contacts in the deleted folder. Enjoy.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

That was my thought process

[–]redpillavatar1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

I propose that you have a different type of abundance issue: in trying to juggle so many women you have less time for knocking out home runs?

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[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

This titleist guy, i keep seeing ur frs, are they all actually real, all from one guy?

[–]Muddpup641 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

Okay, this is what get's me every time fuckers.

Cherry – “I haven’t seen you in three weeks, though! We’ve only spoken for like an hour.” Shit test identified

TT – “All I remember is making out before your friend tore you away from me.” Respond with agree and amplify

You aren't agreeing and amplifying. You're actually doing quite the opposite. She's coming up with an excuse not to see you. You don't agree with that shit (fuck that!) and you obviously didn't.

Can somebody please get out their big chief crayon and draw me a picture?

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[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

This wasn't text game. I actually used my phone to call those girls

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Well done, I have hundreds of numbers. Wonder if I should call them all up, even though I've never cleaned out my phone. Wouldn't know what to say to each chick though.

[–]stawek1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

You will know what not to say after first 50 tries :)

[–]FaustoRMD0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

If you use whatsapp, send audio messages.

[–]Physio_Tool0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I do this when I can. Whatsapp is good because they can see your picture and remember your hot. And of course hear your voice and shit and you can delete the voice text convo if you fucked it.

[–]Squeezymypenisy0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Did you get this idea from the Adele song?

[–]random_11350 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

I almost ignored the thread when I saw the title (She has to be the most famous Alpha Widow out there).

Entertaining read. Goes back to being different than everyone else.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

It's a great thing too see some alternative game methods, great post!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Looks like Dana the lush who pounded back 5 Martinis and responded so warmly is as DTF as one could expect.

If I were OP, id escalate hard and look to close on first night

[–]killxorxbexkilled0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Calling was once the only way to communicate ha ha I'm 38 so I know how to talk! I've found that several young girls I've carried on text conversations with, once I called them, were totally fucking retarded and couldn't carry a half decent conversation worth shit. These types are good for eye candy and pussy.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

What time were these calls going out? Im usually busy as fuck and running across the room the phone only to find out its a number i dont recognize gets the fuck you button for sure. Honestly I get annoyed at calls. but thats just me i guess

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Would you mind hinting at you're geographical area? Downtown east coast metro? Do you think girls in that area are so tech hooked they'd be afraid to talk on the phone, or are they mostly flakes with dishonest excuses.

[–]Endorsed ContributorThe_Titleist[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy

To start, I'm not a geographical area ;). What I will say is that I'm in the suburbs of a major US city. Every girl in any major city will be tech obsessed, so honestly I think that it might be once again new and fresh to actually call a girl on the phone. If the girl is a flake, make her tell you herself.

[–]RedDeadlift0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Great write up man. It's always good to hear the failures too and proof that it really is a numbers game and don't let failure get you down, as a massive success could be just around the corner.

"Fail often to succeed sooner."

Edit: I also like the time limit pressure flip response when you didn't know if she was throwing you a shit test or not. Since it turns out she wasn't, it played in your favor.

[–]1Maverick10 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy

Didn't you learn anything from the Boondocks?

Bitches love smiley faces -Ed Wuncler III

[–]thisicanremember0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy

Which is fascinating, as RP philosophy says no emoticons at all. Period.

[–]1Maverick10 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy

Is that right :) IDGAF :PPPPPPPPP



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