Is it rare to find a girl who doesn't do drugs these days?

Meat-on-the-table · 2016-03-15T08:16:15+00:00

...heavy into the party lifestyle.

There's your problem right there. You're looking for a fish in the forest.

Themooseconnection · 2016-03-15T10:38:48+00:00

Because of this I don't use drugs recreationally. I've used LSD as a tool before, but I'm not interested in the modern obsession with recreational drug use.

People in general have figured out there is no point to life and are looking for an escape. Women more so now they don't have the fulfilment of being a matriarch.

Scizzler · 2016-03-15T12:34:37+00:00

So you keep meeting the same type of girls.....oh I dunno, maybe try something DIFFERENT. Keep doing the same thing and you'll get the same results. The whole "does every girl do drugs" is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in weeks. Cmon bro, man up and do something different. If you're gonna say you've already done that then you need to reevaluate things, you DEFINITELY haven't done everything possible.

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callme-roy · 2016-03-15T14:23:24+00:00

in my experience women who do a lot of drugs have loose morals and fuck disgusting people "because they were messed up".

They validate the poor decisions they make with their vaginas just like they validate the poor decisions they make with their lives.

Women will fuck with and associate with guys who have drugs just so they can keep getting high for free. Get the fuck away from these women unless you want STDs for the rest of your life. Even if you don't care about STDs get away from them because a red pill man is better than that.

If you are following the advice here and taking care of your body and trying to maximize your self improvement. You yourself would not be on drugs or associate with people wasting their lives doing them.

I had a good friend that used to sell coke. He would tell me all the time how he would meet a couple and the boyfriend would send his girlfriend inside to pickup the drugs. The girlfriend would give my friend blowjobs or fuck for just a little extra while boyfriend waits outside in the car. This is just normal for these people.

experience: Lost 5 good friends to overdose. 1 to drunk driving. 3 to suicide. Plus a lifetime of trauma being raised in a drug addicted household. Trust me. The shit is toxic.

destraht · 2016-03-15T12:34:28+00:00

In my experience these girls type cast me as the very boring and safe guy while I think that the girls that I would consider for a girlfriend tend to put me into the maybe-possibly too wild to handle category. I think that the drugs offer a whole hell of a lot of plausible-deniability for the pre-event and post-event wrap up. I imagine that your simple presence will function as a mirror for them and that just by standing in front of them they will see themselves and it will make them feel a bit bad about it and then they will try to put that back onto you. I'd be far more concerned if these girls suddenly decided that they liked you a lot because that means that they are feeling like settling for the safe guy. That doesn't mean that you aren't a cool and attractive guy its just what they are bringing to it that would turn me off. Basically something like an alpha-widow even if you are super alpha. The dude who supplies drugs is just always there and then those girls tend to fuck that guy who is simply there at that time of the night.

[deleted] · 2016-03-15T14:23:33+00:00

Welcome to the current state American girls... The majority of them are trash. Especially at your age.

Like others have said, you need to change your hunting grounds. You won't be finding any unicorns in the party scene.

Gorech1ld · 2016-03-15T10:57:09+00:00

My friend, this is peak degeneracy. This is what the west has to offer these days.

Are you truly afraid of being too "old-school"? Well, back in the olden days, marriage was actually valued and women were shamed if they did anything even unlady-like. I mean, seriously, there was a time when just smoking mere CIGARETTES would've had a woman branded as a whore or prostitute, but now so many of them are beyond that at this point that nobody even cares about a cigarette smoking woman. It used to be that communities would only have a town whore. Nowadays, every woman is just a plain whore since slut-shaming isn't cool anymore.

It's things like these which makes me roll my eyes whenever I see somebody on here tell us to "enjoy the decline". I just can't enjoy seeing so many potential good women practically run into the wall at light speed, not caring about what they eat or drink and gaining weight without ever losing it because fat-shaming is also uncool. I can't enjoy seeing them getting hooked on drugs and falling into horribly bad habits. I can't enjoy seeing them just destroy their ability pair-bond, just because they were told that they can "have it all" and forsake the traditional values which actually led to this prosperous society being built. I mean, just how many women do you personally know nowadays even know how to properly cook a decent meal? Yeah, you yourself could probably count on one hand, maybe two if you're lucky.

I went mgtow for a reason, and this is one of them. The good women are just gone.

pcadrian · 2016-03-15T20:44:07+00:00

They're still out there, but they're very rare. I'm dating one at the moment. Was a virgin when I met her, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs/smoke/etc, does NOT like to party at all. If you go to RPW, she embodies all the qualities except she does all that naturally (Muslim background, traditional upbringing). She has zero experience and has no idea what she's doing, yet she does everything right for a LTR.

Keep searching and have fun in the meantime. Get the experience it takes to handle and manage a LTR. Learn to control your emotions, handle arguments, and most importantly handle your woman's emotions (i.e don't fall into her frame).

The experience you get with these duds you keep finding is very valuable (it was to me!). They push all your buttons, shit test like crazy, etc, so it's important to control your reactions to that. They do stupid shit like anger you, trigger jealous feelings, etc.

Learn to handle those situations without getting involved in a LTR with the sluts. That way when you find a LTR worthy woman, you will know what to do to keep her attracted. Most importantly, you develop abundance mentality because you internalize the fact that sex is easy to get (I struggled with this for a while until I finally got it). That way, your LTR won't walk all over you (remember AWALT).

royal_fucktard · 2016-03-15T15:30:49+00:00

unfortunately for you, a majority of the girls that age that don't do drugs don't have sex either!

machimus · 2016-03-15T18:27:16+00:00

WTF is "lean"? Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong.

It all depends if someone is using drugs as escapism from their personal pain. So you probably know the difference between an alcoholic and someone who has the occasional social drink. It can be like that for pot. Not so much with pills, opiates, etc. Coke heads tend to go all-out and can be high risk and have bipolar-like mood swings.

tb87670 · 2016-03-15T08:37:35+00:00

The area does affect it a bit but even out in the sticks where everyone tends to stick to just booze you will still have small groups of people who split on a bag of coke.

As for that feeling how everyone is hedonistic, this is modern feminism at play. Women have the power to do exactly what they shouldn't and party and wear their vag out on 50 dicks by 25, then they can turn around 'find religion' and claim to be a good girl while she locks down someone before she ages too hard. This is how it is. Lots of women do this not because they are necessarily evil or bad but because they can get away with it. If murder was not illegal you would see shit get crazy for at least a while until all the blood feuds are 'resolved'.

sensitiveduck · 2016-03-15T13:58:10+00:00

There are almost no hot chicks with the same dedication as most red pill men in any area of life. So your choice is to find one that isn't too damaged and try bring her on your own level.

PantsonFire1234 · 2016-03-15T14:06:05+00:00

Women that pop to many pills are hands down sluts or set up for a slutty life. It's a major red flag for a reason.

MentORPHEUS · 2016-03-15T15:22:16+00:00

Here's another perspective. I've never been a drinker but pot is my libation of choice since the '80s. I'm a very high-functioning business owner and dislike stereotypical stoners.

There are VAST swaths of the female population who won't give a second look to a pot smoker. Large numbers of these are rather sanctimonious about it, even though they may smoke cigarettes, drink like fishes, and pop pills like tic-tacs. They don't consider "their" substance to be one of abuse, but will openly talk down every other kind of drug user.

Here in Los Angeles, everyone is on some kind of drug it seems. Psychiatric meds seem to be overprescribed everywhere; SSRIs will wreck a woman's sexuality. Small towns around the state are rat warrens of tweekers ahd heroin users; my mid-20s stepdaughter mentioned there have been 5 overdoses and suicides of people her age in her small (<20,000) town this past month.

Bottom line- don't just look at her self-written label and assume she's not on some kind of drugs.

[deleted] · 2016-03-15T16:32:55+00:00

LOL i thought the first paragraph was you pretending to be a hipster girl. You sound like one of those hula hooping, pot smoking, flower headband wearing festival thots

NealS587 · 2016-03-15T19:36:11+00:00

Try finding girls at the gym, or when doing outside activities. You should try approaching in locations besides at parties.

Xenocynic · 2016-03-16T03:29:30+00:00

Beyond some really fucking freaky sex, these women provide no value and they will drag you down with them if given the chance. No matter how you put it, they are only good for that one purpose of being your personal nutting totem for a night.

NeoreactionSafe · 2016-03-15T14:06:47+00:00

The Blue Pill is all about "dumbing down"... it's self medication.

Within the Blue Pill mindset the only way to deal with reality is to be "happy".

Think of the word "gay":

1275-1325; Middle English gai < Old French < Germanic; compare Old High German gāhi ‘fast, sudden’

Originally it meant any kind of spontaneous behavior that had drama.

So the Blue Pill mindset is that emotions need to be sudden (gay) and that drama is what life is about.

Happiness is perpetual excitement... at least as the Blue Pill defines it.

Women are "gay" and the drugs keep the "high" going.

Masculinity is not "gay".

And that's why the modern form of "gay" deviates from historical views on "gay" and by that I mean male homosexuality. There are Manosphere writers who are butch male homosexuals that write about the disappointment in the Blue Pill version of homosexuality because it's... get this... "gay".

Back in the 1970's if you went to a Gay Parade in San Francisco all the guys wore leather outfits that looked like Nazi uniforms. The 1970's homosexual was a stud... his ideal was the super masculine. "Macho, Macho Man..."

So if we pull back from this we see that everything has been shifted towards the feminine mental perspective.

Everything has gone "gay" and drugs simply reinforce that "gay".

Qorion · 2016-03-15T15:04:47+00:00

OP, I'm 27F and I've never smoked or done drugs in my life. I rarely drink too. I have the same lifestyle as you - gym 6 days/wk, eat clean, etc.

It's true, dating is a little tougher because this type of lifestyle is not very common but there ARE people out there with similar lifestyles.

I wouldn't lose hope; just be patient and don't settle.

I wish there were more people like you with an "old-school" mentality.

Il128 · 2016-03-15T14:05:33+00:00

The problem is you're looking for ltr. Don't do that. A plate is a plate and you shouldn't develop feelings for plate I.e. Care.

There are no women worth having a ltr with in the world today. If you find one keep your game strong and use The Red Pill theory daily or you'll lose that unicorn.

aanarchist · 2016-03-15T11:19:14+00:00

welcome to modern america, enjoy the decline, or cry salty tears in my case.

Ifuckinglovepron · 2016-03-15T15:29:14+00:00

You are picking up girls in the wrong places, if you go to a bar to find girls, you will find bar slags.

Try getting involved in sports clubs like cycling it rock climbing or do some charity crap. Or.... Game at the gym.

evileddy · 2016-03-15T15:49:05+00:00

Drugs mean the women can go "I fucked those guys because of the drugs I was on... it wasn't me.. so it doesn't count.. I'm not a slut... it was just the drugs."

F_Dingo · 2016-03-15T15:51:11+00:00

You may need to choose different venues to get girls at. If you're picking them up at the bar, you're going to be getting the low quality ones.

Don't compromise on your standards at all, no matter how tough it gets in finding an LTR. For me personally, any drug use (past or present) is an instant deal breaker. It's illegal and severely harms the body, it shows extremely poor judgement.

DoerOfStuffAndThings · 2016-03-15T16:51:31+00:00

Spend more time in libraries and bookstores.

Project_Thor · 2016-03-15T17:46:47+00:00

black coffee and a Gatorade: I'm also a health nut. Gatorade was designed for when your entire system is totally exhausted e.g. Marathon. it also contains a bunch of crappy ingredients and colouring which has been proven to lead to mental illness. Black Coffee, Kudos to you, I love it as well, However Bulletproof Coffee has tremendous benefit. I'd check it out.

galvinatrix · 2016-03-15T17:53:36+00:00

Isn't drinking socially also recreational? My advice for you is to stop looking and waiting, don't be so picky. One might argue that you enjoy the high of working out, that its your drug of choice. You are 21, have fun. Be a sober Sally when you get older, the hangovers last longer and you'll be the creepy old guy wanting to party with younger chicks.

[deleted] · 2016-03-15T18:43:07+00:00

As you get older you will notice the consequences from drug use will start to manifest in the people you see around them. The ones who are by far the best off are the pot heads. They can still otherwise live a very healthy life. The sneaky ones are the drinkers and the one thing that has surprised me in my 30s is who from my friends in my teens and early 20s are now alcoholics. Aside from the partying they did openly back in the day they drank very frequently alone. Now I am starting to see people who look very beat up who are younger than I am. They will still have something thats good with their body but you can tell they are expiring right now. I know a few women who have great looking bodies, even at 30 but they have been squandering it away with their wild group sex parties (its just them and several dudes) and heavy drinking 6 times per week. Without makeup she looks like an old woman and her body will go very shortly.

The other types are those who are constantly on prescription meds for their mental issues. This is sort of the sneaky one. These ones are worth walking away from in just about all cases. They could have everything dialed in and could be fine, and then something in their body changes and the drug chemistry gets a little fucked and they become monsters. I have a family member, great looking woman, who has been on these types of drugs since she was in middle school and she is now in in her early 30s. At first you may not notice it but hang out with her a bit and you can tell she is fucked up. You never want to have any sort of permanent relationship with a person who has a mind that changes at the drop of a hat.

Tarnsman4Life · 2016-03-15T19:46:34+00:00

Yes it is, even most of the "gym" girls smoke weed or do some kind of pills in excess. Xanax seems to be very common "oh well that is for my anxiety" "how many are you supposed to take in a day?" odds are they far exceed that number.

It is tough, I take my primary hobby(shooting sports) very seriously. All it takes is one dumb bitch leaving her joint in my place and there goes my 2nd Amendment rights for good, thus I am very careful who I let in my house and into any vehicle I own.

JohnnyRaz · 2016-03-15T20:28:52+00:00

Every single outlet of culture / media HEAVILY promotes the party life / drugs onto the west. It is being pounded into our youth at a very early age now no holds barred. You're not "cool" unless you're poppin Molly and smoking weed and takin addys or white girl up in da club. The same media that is promoting all this fucking and no fathers. It's corrosive. Why is the media doing this? Who owns 100% of media in the U.S.?

wont_tell_i_refuse_ · 2016-03-15T22:24:07+00:00

Am I the only one who thinks OP is full of shit? I hardly ever encounter women who do drugs. A lot more alcoholics than anything.

EDDbDG · 2016-03-16T00:49:47+00:00

Are you really surprised that normie girls you meet at school/through friends are party girls?

Open your eyes dude, you won't find what you're looking for here.

Bielzabutt · 2016-03-16T03:27:04+00:00

.. or that isn't an alcoholic or that isn't on psycho-theraputic drugs or that can cook a fucking meal or keep a house clean or do her own nails?

Luckyluke23 · 2016-03-16T04:42:36+00:00

I'm the same with you, but Will Tattoos, can't fucking stand them. Every girl got them now, no matter where you go. it's a fucking joke!

chick at a young age like to party man, try older chicks.

eccentricrealist · 2016-03-15T14:33:29+00:00

21 here, dumped a few girls and my only LTR because of dope. It's especially hypocritical to do drugs if you're Mexican, more so if your father was killed by fucking drug traffickers like my LTR's father was. Absolutely disgusting. Anyways, there are some that don't or that only have tried it once, someone else gave good advice about looking for girls who do take care of their health. Of course be careful they're not those naturalist "Dude, dope is good for you" sort of hippies.

Fuck_shadow_bans · 2016-03-15T17:21:44+00:00

A. you are looking in the wrong places for girls that don't do drugs.

B. there's nothing wrong with a little pot now and again. you need to lighten up. you also need to stop being hypocritical if you've used lsd before.

C. can't turn a ho into a house wife. you need to look for a ltr elsewhere.

KnowBrainer · 2016-03-15T19:44:17+00:00

Stop looking for high quality people in low quality locations. For drug free women, you're looking for nurses, teachers, church-goers. Shop around places where you'd find that type of lady. Sorry, your university is a garbage receptacle. You're going to have to wait for the trash to be "born again" before they're worth anything.

EliQuince · 2016-03-15T08:52:47+00:00

Date an older and more mature woman.

brettfromtibet · 2016-03-15T13:36:24+00:00

Yes.. drug use is common. Especially in some circles. But not all: I would suggest going to spiritual groups (church, synagouge, yogga , meditation) or volunteer activities to meet a different kind of woman.

_red_carpet · 2016-03-15T14:39:11+00:00

Women are dopamine fiends.

So yes, it's really hard to find a girl who doesn't do drugs- because if she can't get her fix from the cc, she'll search for that feeling through other means.

You need to find girls who are used to a low amount of dopamine, and those are not likely going to be at parties.

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therhymerr · 2016-03-15T17:12:51+00:00

But you are a drug user... You've done lsd one of the craziest drugs out there. Just because they are currently using a substance doesn't mean you are above them. Back to the drawing board for you

MadKat88 · 2016-03-15T08:44:18+00:00

What they do doesn't matter.

I've been sober for almost 4 years. But I don't have my nose in the air about it. It's my choice, and I don't have some fantasy that everyone else is going to start living by my rules.

ITadminguuy · 2016-03-15T15:29:56+00:00

My body and mind are my temple and I try to take care of them to the best of my ability. I'm in the gym 5 days a week, I haven't had fast-food in two years, I stay away from processed foods, I only drink water, black coffee and a Gatorade after I work out. I read daily, I meditate, blah blah blah. What I'm getting at is I take my health, both mental and physical, very seriously.

Basically, you sound like a loser who doesn't have fun. No wonder you will be a faggot virgin forever.

prodigy2throw · 2016-03-15T15:03:06+00:00

Addiction is rampant among women. It's just more socially acceptable if they're alcoholics or potheads because boobs.

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