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Maybe I'm the minority here but I feel inclined to give props to this guy. Yes,he's crude as f but at the end of the day, he's showing some morals in wanting to tell a woman he likes her but not for the long term - and wants to tell her from the get go.
Believe me, nicer more politcally correct scrotes will just pay lip service and let you draw your own conclusions. Let your imagination carry you away and reap the benefits- I feel like this guy is being clear and transparent. He cites lifestyle (kids) and sexual interests/compatibility (I know, barf) but still.
It's not like he's asking "fellow scrotes, how do I dodge the question of WHAT ARE WE while I take advantage of her in the short term?" or "how can I convinceher to accept my terms that are less than what she wants?"
This chick is getting a blessing we only wish could be guaranteed to the rest of us: being told in our face EXACTLY what the terms are and given the chance to either sign up for it or not.
Would we rather this guy play nice and say all the right things, and six months later drop her under the pretext that she's too needy, too jealous, too this, too that? When it's actuall her kid and actually that they've never been sexually compatible all along?
Also, I want to be fair to the commenters shown there: none are telling him "who cares, don't tell her anything", they're giving him their answers.
It would serve us well to accept that this is legitimate, and some women may be down. What's not legitimate is manipulation and deceit but I don't see the big moral issue if he's trying to be honest - both to himself and to her.
We shouldn't make this a moral issue. Transparency is the moral issue here, not the seriousness of the guy with the chick in question. The transactional terms bewteen a woman that may be a pickme, have low self esteem or any other stake in this, are a risk-reward analysis for both parties involved. But the morality here, imho, is the clarity of the terms so each one can make informed decisions.
We can shame men for being dishonest, which is inmoral. But are we going to shame them for being honest? Or are we trying to shame because they're willing to get involved with women they're not serious about?
Is our expectation truly that they only get involved with women they're serious about? See what I mean?
Now... imagine if you could know this BEFORE you even get involved with him.
I'm bracing myself for the downvotes but... I believe this guy is doing the right thing.
Edit to add: in addition, this guy is explicitly acknowledging the sexual difference as an incompatibility. His mentality shows he wants to FIND A GIRL WHO'S INTO BDSM, and he reads like he's not even thinking of "turning" this girl onto BDSM. He's not normalizing it LIKE IT'S OWED to him.
I feel like this is the one time I have to side with the scrote.
(don't hate me guys)
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I respect what you’re saying, but my work is as a psychologist and the research just doesn’t support your view. In fact, people who are comfortable with exploring their sexual fantasies tend to have healthier relationships. A lot of the practice is actually about visual stimulation or an interest in bondage, pain doesn’t even have to be a component, and when it is a component it is something that is desired by BOTH parties. This community is actually very strict about the concept of consent and mutual pleasure, so much so that the established BDSM practices are studied as a model for how sexual consent can be communicated effectively.
I’d also like to point out that BDSM does not always follow a pattern where the man is dominant, that is really up to each couple to decide.
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I don’t really see the problem. He’s honest about his intentions and is looking for another consenting adult who wants a similar thing. Where’s the problem?
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