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I hope nobody posted this already but here is a feminist article saying that masturbation is rape

yeetyyello

April 11, 2020
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Title I hope nobody posted this already but here is a feminist article saying that masturbation is rape
Author

yeetyyello

Upvotes 117
Comments 58
Date April 11, 2020 7:42 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/fzgay4/i_hope_nobody_posted_this_already_but_here_is_a/
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[–][deleted] 45 points46 points47 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think there is a study somewhere where porn website found that women are the most consumer of hardcore porn, making the argument invalid.

We can also add this the massive consumer market for « masculine sex objects » bought by millions women, making it « empowering » while the same for male consumers is seen as evil, bad, etc.

Like always, double standards. Women are perfect angels and men are baddies, always, forever.

[–]jl05419 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

this one? It's the first i found when searching and i heard about it a few times before

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it is yes, never looked the data closely, just read here and there so thank you

[–]TeytoTK 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

This is sick. The article goes under “toxic masculinity” tag, but this level of feminism is not even toxic. It is poisonous.

So men are not allowed to be aroused by porn, while women are totally welcome? And some college student jerking on the image of his crush is a rapist, while the said crush masturbating while thinking about some rapper or a famous actor is doing them a favor?

I just cannot believe people could be THAT devoid of basic logics. This almost looks like somebody is deliberately trying to saw enmity between the sexes.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

is not even toxic. It is poisonous.

What's the difference?

[–]CorporateNINJA 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Poisonous will kill you. Toxic can kill you, but it probably wont.

[–]Vorpal_Spork 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No the actual definitions of the words are identical. I can't find a dictionary that doesn't say toxic means poisonous.

Dictionary.com

acting as or having the effect of a poison; poisonous

Merriam-Webster.com

containing or being poisonous material especially when capable of causing death or serious debilitation

Thefreedictionary.com

Capable of causing injury or death, especially by chemical means; poisonous

[–]PlatinumBeetle 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've heard it distinguished that poisons require ingestion, toxins don't, and venom needs injection.

[–]Farseer_Uthiliesh 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If it's rape to masturbate about someone without their consent, where does it leave women? What do women think about when they masturbate, shoe or dress shopping, drinking wine with 'their besties'?

[–]gbBaku 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If they think about drinking wine with besties, isn't that also rape? /s

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points25 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

If you intentionally go looking for stupid people, you will find them.

[–]MarsNirgal 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This has to be a troll. It pushes all the buttons too swiftly.

[–]yeetyyello 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I dotn think it is this website is entirely devoted to radical feminist articles like this one

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No mate, i think that is a troll, that shit is just too crazy. I mean

Being a sex worker is an empowering and noble career

This is le epic troll or just some crazy girl going nuts. I think both.

[–]auMatech 20 points21 points22 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

men enjoying porn is problematic

And here we have what this whole thing is all about... Men enjoying something. Time to make it illegal I guess, what reasons you ask? Well it negatively impacts women when men enjoy things since it fuels their oppressive drive to rape or whatever

[–]BimmerLife1992 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This whole thing is cringe and generalizes men as machines and not beings.....

[–]MarsNirgal 16 points17 points18 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd love to see their rationalization about gay porn.

[–]zaapas 12 points13 points14 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The fuck!? jacking off to someone real "telepathic rape!" How does it affect her? "It lower her energy." ....all porn stars should be dead by now.

[–]RyansPutter 7 points8 points9 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, she exempts porn stars from this telepathic energy drain rape thing, because they know their images will be sexualized so they've consented. Or at least I think that's what she's saying.

[–]citerunner 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I bet this is going to be a magic system for someone's epic fantasy.

It's the only vaguely intelligible thing I can say about this.

[–]zaapas 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ho yeah it's like deathnote but it's dicknut.

[–]princelydeeds 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Not a fan of Snopes but feel free to view their debunking of this post... https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/are-feminists-complaining-telepathic-rape/

[–]Men-Are-Human 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Snopes have been regularly caught saying things are false by adding details or focusing on one detail and only debunking that.

[–]pkarlmann 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Oo, they discovered Post-Nut-Clarity is real and that after that no Men - not even Alphas - wants to listen to their bullshit anymore...

[–]tandalgan 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep.

[–]JaggedGreen88 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I lost I.Q points reading this.

[–]mgtowolf 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They sexualize any female they see

Something that landwhales not only desperately try to convince themselves of, but are also trying to brainwash the world to believe it with them *laugh emoji thingie

[–]rabel111 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Thiss is a very mentally ill individual with a complete inability to understand or tolerate male sexuality. They are exhibiting sociopathic symptoms similar to those exhibited by serial killers. They seem incapable of understanding male as human beings and have zero empathy. Most likely a school teacher or social worker?

[–]macobus 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It's satire

[–]rabel111 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As was my comment

[–]aussietoads 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most likely a school teacher or social worker?

LOL. Yeh, I had a few teachers that would fit the mould. LOL.

[–]Arthuyo 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ignoring the fact this article is a satire article. I can't even imagine how this could be enforced.

[–]2011Minecon 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I feel like the word "rape" has lost all of his meaning

[–]PlatinumBeetle 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I try not to use it anymore. I prefer the term "forced sex".

[–]GVRBM 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“They sexualize any female they see” does this bitch not know about gay men?, Also, were tf is she getting the evidence?

[–]HarryShachar 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

In Judaism it is

[–]PlatinumBeetle 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Explanation and citation please.

[–]HarryShachar 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

In judaism,there is a law where you "can't spill sperm" or waste sperm for fun, however you want to translate it. It derives from this- Talmud Niddah 13a.

https://www-myjewishlearning-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.myjewishlearning.com/article/masturbation-a-touchy-subject/amp/?amp_js_v=a3&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQFKAGwASA%3D#aoh=15867365453609&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

"לא תשפוך זרע לבטלה"

[–]PlatinumBeetle 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link

Ah, I see. I'm going to have to read this, I think I know where the rabbis got the idea from, as being a Christian I've read the Tanakh in translation repeatedly (also some Josephus and many issues of some Messianic Jewish magazines and of course books about world religions in general). I think I should probably read the Mishnah too (I'm not going to read the whole Babylonian Talmud, seems too long and if I read one Gemara I'd want to read the other for comparison) and maybe the Zohar (which I expect to be a lot of interesting mystical nonsense).

Edit: Just read the article. Interesting. I would have guessed that they would have relied on the text about Onan more and that the mystics would have been the ones to rely on it less rather than the other way around. I see a fair amount of overlap here on the medical side with the nofap movement's arguments in modern times and much of the moral reasoning is similar to the natural law arguments I came across reading "Abortion & the early church: Christian, Jewish & Pagan attitudes in the Greco-Roman World" by Michael J. Gorman. It's fascinating the way different cultures reason about morality and the different tendencies in ancient vs modern people of how they go about it.

[–]HarryShachar 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The zohar book is actually interesting and I would recommend it,but the Talmud isn't worth the effort in my opinion.

[–]PlatinumBeetle 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I know, it's super long. That's why I was only seriously considering reading the Mishnah.

[–]HarryShachar 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I haven't read that yet

[–]PlatinumBeetle 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope they even have it in English translation, I don't read Hebrew or Aramaic and I'm too lazy to learn.

[–]ElijyahTheSexyPotato 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Another charming post from r/PinkpillFeminism

Why bother? Guys like this are stupid filthy piles of shit that wallow in their own filth day after day without Hope's of ever finding a mate or reproducing, which is a good thing. If you like WOW, play it but domt expect males to listen to your rhetoric. Itll literally drive you mad, would you argue with a pysch ward patient? I bet not so dont waste your time. Chances are, these fuckers are already miserable and brain dead so logic and facts would be pointless. Dont let them get to you dear

[–]theholdencaulfield_ 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Funniest part? They think we will actually believe their bullshit

[+]Banger2471 points 6 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

That‘s some of the cringiest, most idiotic shit I‘ve ever read.

I have rape fantasies, I get off on non-consensual sex, abuse and all that shit. So call me a sick asshole if you want but that‘s fantasy and I‘m well aware of it. I know the psychological impact this behaviour would have and I‘d never do that to a woman.

And I watch some fucked up shit on porn sites too, mostly amateur videos though and the kinky stuff people get up to in their own time and decide to film isn‘t on me to judge. But if it gets me off then yeah, I‘ll watch it.

And telepathic rape ain‘t a thing, what the fuck. Sexual thoughts and fantasies obviously do not directly translate into actions or create some weird alternate reality that affects us. If that were so half the female population would be voluntary rape victims.

[–]PlatinumBeetle 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think she meant "mental rape" rather than literal telepathy.

[–]Legal_Adviser 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There's no way this is legit. Gotta be a false flag.

[–]DrunicusrexXIII 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TL, DR - some people are crazy, and will post their ravings online.

[–]Nicholas_Cage3 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not gonna lie I started to laugh at "telepathic rape"

[–]Moronic-Simpleton 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women doing porn is a good thing.

BUT MEN SHOULDN’T ENJOY IT

[–]RyansPutter 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Telepathic rape is what the villain did to Counselor Troi in Star Trek: Nemesis. Jerking off to a picture doesn't mind-rape someone and it certainly doesn't energy drain them. I think this person thinks that science fiction is actually real.

[–]yeetyyello 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No I think she just got this from her telepathically raped mind

[–]Ody_ssey 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

An incel wrote that article.

[–]DiedSl0wly 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I hope to god this is satire

[–]DoubleDollars69 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What in the Kentucky Fried Fuck did I just read?

[–]MDE427 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a stupid fucking 'article' .... this is fake right? An Onion story?

If it is real it's got to be written by some unattractive woman nobody thinks about while masturbating and she is mad about it! FFS - every man has imagined himself fucking the hottest women in his life and nothing would ever stop this. It's a part of human biology and without this drive the human species would cease to exist. It isn't something anyone can just 'shut off' ..... what the fuck could be going through their mind writing this obnoxious shit?

[+]PlatinumBeetle -10 points-9 points-8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If you take out the misandry and female supremacy I agree with her.

A lot of her arguments are why I don't use photographic porn and some touch on why I try to refrain from certain fantasies sometimes.

The problem, as usual for feminists, is that she makes this all one way. The women who are porn models? "Telepathic sluts", just like the men masturbating to them. The women masturbating to fantasies of male celebrities? "Telepathic rapists", just like the men masturbating to fantasies of their female friends.

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