Do redpillers understand they are abusive?

PutsWomenOnPedestal · 2023-12-19T01:40:12+00:00

I suspect they know but they don’t care given the misogyny and resentment inherent in those movements

bluemagex2517 · 2023-12-19T02:31:26+00:00

I think it's similar to racism. Most racists don't think they are "racist," they just think there are inherent differences between races and their race is superior... to them that's not "racism." They think of it as "reality."

Similarly most red pill guys don't think they're "abusive." They just use "tactics" to get women to do what they want. That can't be "abuse," because it's just that they are more clever and superior. To them it's just "restoring the natural order" to their relationship (or some other bullshit justification).

Though, historically, when I first encountered the red pill in cira 2012, they were more a club for sadists talking shop about abusing their wives and girlfriends. I remember reading someone say, "I don't have time for "safewords.""

That's changed as the red pill became more of a cult of self-help for the incel community.

LeadingSomewhere6162 · 2023-12-19T02:15:02+00:00

I suspect they are aware but are so caught up in misogyny and trying to “get laid” no matter what.

TenaciousVillain · 2023-12-19T04:52:01+00:00

Some are well aware and weaponize the fact that many are unaware and really believe they are religiously backed in some of the hellscape views they hold. The ones who know better thrive on the chaos of the ones who are willfully ignorant and don't want to know better.

Carloverguy20 · 2023-12-19T18:36:35+00:00

They deny it. You can't reason with a redpiller, they are stuck in their own ways, if you dare call them out, they will call you a betah.

QuarantineTheHumans · 2023-12-19T22:36:25+00:00

A red-pill who gives a shit about being abusive probably won't be a red pill for long

86Logs · 2023-12-26T16:07:32+00:00

No, the ideology of the red pill movement puts women in the category of property as opposed to equal humans. They justify it with "traditional gender roles" but a lot of it is just oppression for the sake of keeping a woman from accidentally discovering she wants to have sex with someone else.

I recently came out from this fog and really had to unlearn some unhealthy thought processes about women, their place in the world, worth in association with sexual history, etc. It's actually quite embarrassing to look back on things I've done and said along the way. I can't understand how my girlfriend put up with me while I was wrestling with these things, she is a Saint for sure.

The big problem with red pill is that it fails to account for women as humans, with feelings, emotions, desires, AND the same capacity for exploring the world as men. Just because a woman has sex before she meets someone doesn't mean she won't be a good companion. It's fucking ridiculous when you really get down to it.

Available-Level-6280 · 2023-12-20T00:59:11+00:00

I think that anytime you want to change other persons core self ie manipulate them to your advantage, you are being abusive and assholish. Like cmon. Let people be themselves.

Eastern-Resource-773 · 2023-12-21T19:27:03+00:00

Define abusive.

thesouthpawscrub · 2023-12-22T21:24:07+00:00

They're totally aware...

AlexFerrana · 2024-12-27T03:25:14+00:00

They likely know that, but doesn't care and doesn't think that it's something bad. Some of them even proud of it.

420TechParty · 2023-12-19T03:52:01+00:00

In some aspects yes, but if you havent had sex or arent getting girls then who gives a fuck?

Title	Do redpillers understand they are abusive?
Author	Mediumrare45
Upvotes	37
Comments	32
Date	December 19, 2023 1:19 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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