Does the Red Pill damage the nuclear family structure

sweatsmallstuff · 2024-02-21T04:21:03+00:00

Yep. My ex husband went red pill slowly at first, then full on. He lives a part from us and constantly sends me screeching rambling texts about “how women are the worst” while he streams and tells his followers the same. He’s a sad, lonely man who lost his family over an ideology that hurts him just as it does us. He’s fixated on the idea he can have “a new better family” with some 25 year old (imaginary) that wants an angry man who can’t drive and spends every waking moment playing video games with people just like himself 🤷🏾‍♀️.

Aware_Illustrator_81 · 2024-02-21T05:54:26+00:00

Yes! Sadly it comes under the guise of wanting to protect the nuclear family, but in fact it’s arguments that cater to the worst elements of men’s vices and argues that these vices are laced within masculinity itself, I’ll give a few examples

The 1st of the vices include Cheating, the red pill argues that its okay for a man to have a wife while having women on the side, any man who has the time to have affairs, and a wife is at best is a distant father and husband, but usually these men suck ass at being parents and a husband, they lead to divorce’s. They argue that because men’s inherent desire is to just spread seed, that they can fuck around and it’s just okay.

The 2nd of these vices is workaholism, The red-pill is very much in favor of the Baller/hustler lifestyle or some alternative aspect of it. It argues that men who don’t have the aspiration of this lifestyle’s generally are either unloved, sexless, or are at high-risk of taken advantage of for their time. So if you’re not doing this, you can kiss a healthy relationship goodbye because it’s never arriving.

The 3rd of these vices would be a paranoid mindset, “if your girlfriend has a social media, she’s cheating” this is a paraphrase from Myron of Fresh’N’Fit, a huge red-pill podcast, but the red-pill constantly parrots that you should be on guard of a women taking advantage of you in some way or form, whether that be your time, your attention or by cheating. That you better watch your back because before you know it she’ll be with Chad raising his kids.

I can list more vices from this, but all of these vices make men retreat, and I’d argue devolve into a barbaric form that prioritizes selfishness and fear over selflessness and love. Men cannot act like this and pretend it’s family oriented as well, it’s one thing to be a selfish prick and be self-aware about it, it’s another to be a hypocrite.

Stargazer1919 · 2024-02-21T08:27:11+00:00

I was raised by someone with views similar to redpill.

It was damaging and traumatic.

squirrelscrush · 2024-02-21T03:46:13+00:00

If it's the redpill, it damages any notion of familial relationships. Men are discouraged to commit and marriage and long-term commitment is seen as beta cucking.

And I don think any family will be successful while following redpill ideas. As if any of the redpill creators have any happy family of their own to boast about.

Used_Barber958 · 2024-02-21T14:54:31+00:00

My ex cried in front of me once and then he acted like I was gonna loose all respect for him because of it, he said things like “I don’t think you should loose respect because it was x situation” like he needed to explain why he was upset. I can’t think of a family that will be lead by a man who thinks he needs to be a robot. At the end I lost respect but because I was being disrespected SO much.

Plus walking on egg shells was not fun. How can you have a healthy family when you’re tense and afraid you’ll do something wrong? Kids would only add up to that.

Also the whole I can have as many women as I want, you just need to accept it. I couldn’t accept that, he was so promiscuous and also projected onto me. When I found out all the things he did I couldn’t even kiss him anymore, I was disgusted I can’t think of ever being with him again, it gives me an ick. I’m so glad I never started a family with him. Having a daughter with a man like that? No thank you. I prefer to hit “the wall” 7 times and end up living alone with 10 cats. That’s sounds a lot better than living with him.

Edit: for clarification

mammajess · 2024-02-21T06:54:01+00:00

Yep, it encourages domestic violence, short term relationships, paranoia and valuing partners too young to be legal/ethical/practical instead of a peer.

ROBYoutube · 2024-02-21T03:36:55+00:00

Can you elaborate on what you mean? Isn't the nuclear family structure for the 'beta bux' or whatever those lunatics call guys in happy relationships?

theReaders · 2024-02-21T06:18:06+00:00

nuclear families were a 50s psyop forced down americas throat to control a rapidly expanding population, and not how we have historically lived.

bluemagex2517 · 2024-02-21T12:57:26+00:00

I don't care at all about what the red pill or anything else is doing to "the nuclear family structure."

The Red Pill is hurting people, real people in real families and real people who are on their own. That matters infinitely more than some nebulous concept of the correct way to have a family.

The nuclear family as default should be damaged, it should be destroyed. Not that no one should have a family structure similar to the nuclear family, but that it should not be considered default. But, the red pill shouldn't be what's destroying it, we all should be destroying it. The red pill should shrink and go away, because it's a cult of misinformation and harmful ideologies.

Reject the redpill and reject the nuclear family as default.

shawninpa · 2024-02-21T17:26:52+00:00

Not only men are red pill. There are plenty of women that hate men just in different ways

Chili440 · 2024-02-21T18:10:25+00:00

I thought they were all about being their best selves? Holding frame and not reacting to her shit tests, sexing her whenever she wants cos she's so hot for his alpha dominance and stepping up to be the head of his family. God, the fucking plate spinners can't even get their own philosophy right?

Recent_Beautiful_732 · 2024-02-21T18:50:24+00:00

What people here don’t seem to realize is that domestic abuse and men having affairs are core features of the traditional nuclear family. It’s not depicted that way in media because conservatism is all about false romanticization of the past. But in reality the people back then living this life were miserable, and it was common and expected that men would cheat.

The traditional nuclear family is by its nature abusive towards the wife. The very definition of it requires that the wife be under the man’s control.

legend503 · 2024-02-22T09:44:39+00:00

Nope it actually helps.

Modern promiscuity is harming nuclear family.

Mobile_Yoghurt_2840 · 2024-02-24T11:00:05+00:00

I think the original way of life and family structure is the best way to go. Red pill goes with little truths to it while painting everything in a bad light. The original life and family structure, without the influence of religion, tradition, or red pill, is probably the best way to live.

StandardAdvantage700 · 2024-10-28T13:59:00+00:00

The Red Pill gurus out there are ruining men and radicalising them to a dangerous ideology. But these content creators don’t care because this is the type of content that performs well online and gets them the clicks, views and most importantly the money. This is sad given that the male viewers really think these are their mentors that don’t want them to be trapped or are freeing them from some terrible impending doom unless they listen to their advice on women and families. These men listen to them hoping they won’t get used in their lives or whatever from the advice when really these Red Pill Gurus are using them the most and if not ruining their chances of happiness. These creators spread an ideology that lets men think they can give into their worst instincts and still perceive themselves as top tier ‘masculine’ men (whatever the hell that means). There are women speaking out about how their partners have been influenced by red pill ideology and it’s ruined their lives together as a couple and for their children. It’s honestly so sad but I have no sympathy for the men that give into these influences only the poor women and children that will have to face the consequences of their horrible behaviour. They clearly cannot think for themselves and will implement whatever some dude online tells them to do with their lives just because he seems rich with nice cars and beautiful women around him. Long rant but It’s honestly pathetic.

shawninpa · 2024-02-21T19:23:06+00:00

I got into red pill after. She's the kind of woman that gave birth to red pill ideology

Recent_Beautiful_732 · 2024-02-22T00:38:53+00:00

Everything traditional needs to die. Traditional means misogyny.

Title	Does the Red Pill damage the nuclear family structure
Author	Sensitive_Panda_6245
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Date	February 21, 2024 3:10 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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