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[–][deleted] 37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes.
A few years ago, I was in a relationship with a guy who pressured me into doing a sex act I didn't want to do at that moment. I remember telling him I didn't want to do the thing. He said "I thought you were a submissive", trying to make me feel bad. So I did it, because I felt my credibility was on the line.
I felt like this was some type of sexual coercion. I've heard a lot of stories from BDSM practitioners that echo this kind of thing, but they saw it as a positive thing or "that's just how doms are" and I think it's all kind of bogus and fucked-up now. I'm glad I got out of the scene. It sucks.
[–]Catz10000FDS Newbie 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm always reminded that serial killers escalate from porn and are sexually aroused by hurting women. Does any more really need to be said?
[–]BlueSkiesOverLondonFDS Newbie 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In no other area would we consider consent sufficient justification for abuse. There’s a reason you can’t hire someone to kill you, sell yourself into slavery, or sign a contract to sell your internal organs. Consent is not enough to prevent harm.
[–]greenbagmariaFDS Newbie 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also doesn’t hold up in court if you consented to an illegal thing by the way.
[–]souredskittlesFDS Disciple 139 points140 points141 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Just because his penis is out when he is hitting you doesn’t mean it isn’t abuse.
[–]YVGNYFDS Newbie 68 points69 points70 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Thisss, exactly! . If a man choked a woman while his d+ck was in his pants its (obviously) bad but if he gets turned on by the idea and has his penis out then somehow that's OK????
I never understood this logic, BDSM is abuse and I will die on this hill.
[–]ecloFDS Newbie 21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Same. If anything it’s worse bc he gets off on it? Yet somehow lib fem sex posi nonsense has is thinking that bc someone gets turned on by it it’s just a kink and harmless.
[–]YVGNYFDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly it's so fucked up, apparently anything that makes penises hard is OK. Now there's idiots defending p+dophilia because waaaah it's just a fetish he can't help it!!!! All BDSM is messed up like he is literally GETTING OFF on her pain, the man who supposedly loves her is seeing her in pain and that turns him on. I knew a pickme friend whos bf loooooved her so much that he spits on her during sex and she goes on and on about how great their sex life is like???? She was literally getting abused and framing it as "love" its so sad. I never understand why this blatant abuse is advertised as a way to "spice up your sex life" uh?? What happened to just enjoying your intimate time with your partner, maybe getting some new lingerie not this insanity, it's also so stupidly time consuming with all those rules and accessories and planning and whatnot, it takes the fun out of sex.
How someone can go around and frame that as anything other than problematic and abusive as hell is beyond me, also what kind of "empowering act" requires aftercare?
They have a whole thing on how to comfort the sub after the ordeal and it sounds a lot like what abusers do to keep you bonded to them probably because it is 100% abuse and it drives me mad that we cannot critisize this because cOnSeNtInGgG aDuLtS and their LiFeStYlE
[–]greenbagmariaFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
She was literally getting abused and framing it as "love" its so sad. I never understand why this blatant abuse is advertised as a way to "spice up your sex life" uh?? What happened to just enjoying your intimate time with your partner, maybe getting some new lingerie not this insanity, it's also so stupidly time consuming with all those rules and accessories and planning and whatnot, it takes the fun out of sex.
It reminds me of a sort of addiction where your brain is so broken things that are good just doesn’t do it anymore. So you keep upping the ante until you OD. In this case, more and more dangerous sex acts until they injure themselves or die.
Empowering only because power in their minds only come from being desired by a man.
They have a whole thing on how to comfort the sub after the ordeal and it sounds a lot like what abusers do to keep you bonded to them probably because it is 100% abuse and it drives me mad that we cannot critisize this because cOnSeNtInGgG aDuLtS and their LiFeStYlE.
People can consent to doing bad things, consent is not a magic wand that sanitizes demented acts. We need to normalize consent-shaming. Shaming people to things they consented to do because at the end of the day consent = decision.
If you (consented) decided to run naked with a man in a public place, that won’t really hold up in court because again, it’s not a magic wand that makes things ethical or good.
[–]YVGNYFDS Newbie 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am so here for consent shaming, cause it seems that everything that an adult consents to is automatically OK on their eyes ugh
[–]greenbagmariaFDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I will die with you.
[–]curlywurlyprincessFDS Newbie 82 points83 points84 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It’s scary how normalized BDSM has become. It’s not “empowering” to be abused and degraded by a man.
[–]ecloFDS Newbie 33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yep I’ve noticed an increase in men proudly calling themselves ‘doms’, imho ‘dom’ is just shorthand for ‘abuser’, i DGAF about any of that consent stuff if you get off on DOMINATING women you are a sick fuck. You cannot divorce that that form the 100000s of years of patriarchy, you just can’t.
[–]AcademicMobile1FDS Newbie 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Dom" is just abusive scrote code for "greasy Loser"
[–]greenbagmariaFDS Newbie 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah DOM is now the shield they hide behind. “I didn’t hit her. I spanked her.”
[–]sleepykittnFDS Newbie 41 points42 points43 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Since women are still oppressed with an epidemic of violence against us, it cant be empowering. Its like saying a black slave fetish empowers the slave thats submitting🤡. A dominatrix is empowered but its still abuse, its also usually more gratifying for the male sub because of their depraved humiliation kink but for women submitting isnt a kink for humiliation. Its just pride of a pickme.
Big doubt that these so-called submissive men actually act the same as submissive women. Sex doesn’t exist in a vacuum.
If he’s self-centered enough to hire a dominatrix to do the laundry list that gets him off, and familiar to the sex-trade underbelly enough to know how to find one, then he’s not a harmless baby. Let’s remember that submissive women are often recruited (and possibly trafficked) whereas submissive men procure.
At the end of the day being a dominatrix —-it’s still a man paying a woman to do things to make him cum. Just your regular old prostitution but with even more health hazards.
[–]merlinscalculatorFDS Newbie 63 points64 points65 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why is it that whenever someone posts about the TRUTH of bdsm or porn on here I can only see a quarter of the comments 😂 it really brings all the male lurkers out of the shadows - dick in hand, mouth foaming, must protect my right to sexually and physically abuse women!!!
[–]pretty_killFDS Apprentice 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can only see 11 out of 18 comments at the moment. Bless the mods for all the comments they have to see and spare us from seeing.
[–]WittyImprovementFDS Newbie 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I lose a little respect for someone when they say they're into BDSM. Doesn't matter if it's someone I'm trying to date or not
[–]amhran_oicheFDS Newbie 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed!
[–]sleepykittnFDS Newbie 48 points49 points50 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The S litterally stands for Sadism. Consent or not, that will cause psychological harm no different than a bully criticising someone because the brain eventually internalizes it no matter if you think you wont.
I used to think its just a deeper form of intimacy for trusting, but wgy would someone getvoff on hurting the person they love? It's obviously not right.
[–]ilovesanddollarsFDS Newbie 48 points49 points50 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think the following is really important to note here, because the kink community emphasises the fact that there is ‘consent’ means it’s not abuse and that the fact that it is ‘pretend’ means its not abuse.
In practice, ‘consent’ in kinky sex is rarely handled at all let alone correctly. It’s an issue thats handled by most in the same way as consent is other sexual situations (totally ignored, coerced, manipulated, by deception and so on).
Your body does not know it’s pretend, and our experiencing consciousness resides in the body, so we sustain the same trauma as we would if it was real.
The above create trauma bonds, and this is a well known phenomenon in the kink community but is not recognised as such.
The above also creates negative emotional effects for both dominant and submissive; however, these are not recognised as the result of the harm abuse to both submissive and dominant but as a ‘comedown’.
Further, if you are consenting to what is presented to you as a healthy sexual activity that is in fact, abuse, have you really consented at all?
In psychological research, consent that is obtained deceptively or that is poorly informed (the person didn’t know what they were consenting to) is not consent.
BDSM is abuse, and no woman should feel pressured by assertions that it is not abuse due to it being ‘consensual’ or ‘pretend’.
[–]greenbagmariaFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
👏👏👏👏👏
[–]AcadiaLeather5071Ruthless Strategist 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Kinkmesha: my husband beats me!
Woman: that’s horrible! I’ll help you find a woman’s shelter-
Kinkmesha: no but I like it 🥴
[–]foodgrowerfoodeaterFDS Newbie 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not kinkmesha 😭
[–]wordy_friesFDS Newbie 40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Can't believe this has to be explained
[–]ballpitscorpion666 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women who really like it simply don't know anything else. I hear so many stories of women who woke up one day and said I can't believe I was doing this just because it seemed like the most likeable thing for me to do. It made me attractive. What's the fucking point?????? eeing how IT EFFECTS EVERYONE ELSE who want nothing to do with that kind of double standard..// it hurts everyone not just you// to play into it. We should hold them directly accountable for selling their sisters out for the price of shit. It's a travesty and an outrage. With all the 'oops I didn't even know' stories that come out.... Honestly don't believe women who say they like it. They're just brainwashed to loathe themselves fiercely.
[–]greenbagmariaFDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
By the way, SSC—— what kind of consent can a mentally, financially abused person, isolated from everyone, can give?
It’s not consent if she had no choice
[–]_grow_up_already_ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Consent does not erase abuse
Lack of consent is abuse
Coerced consent still is abuse
Uninformed consent still is abuse
Consent does not erase abuse it is only a portion of the correct circumstances which PREVENT abuse
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[–]eternal_boredoom1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
It depends a lot on how you go about it.
But the line is very thin and you have to be careful.
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