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[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist 100 points101 points102 points 4 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link
I realised this with my first boyfriend.
He seemed like a unicorn compared to the ones after.
Decent looking, athletic, nice guy wouldn’t cheat or get violent. Nice manners. But that’s it.
He had no real personality or depth. There’s no way we could of got married, it would of felt fake.
Men are so terrible they make the plain Joe’s look special, when they’re not.
Men are so bad they think they’re doing you a favour by attempting to hide their cheating. Pftttt lol
My ex really thought he was a catch whilst being highly abusive & cheating on me. Like where is the incentive to stay...
They think acting fake nice to our face for 3-6 months is some kind of achievement.
Just speaks volumes that they find it such an effort to pretend to respect women. Cant keep the mask on long most of them.
It’s why you’re not satisfied even when you land a ‘better’ one- because the bar is in hell. And the mediocre ones get put on a false pedestal for not being violent cheating scumbags.
[–]FluffandRaincloudsRuthless Strategist 41 points42 points43 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I noticed the "normal," bare minimum men I went on first dates with (OLD) seemed like a catch in some ways. Some were really good looking and they claimed to have decent careers. Great on paper. But, there was this awkwardness and lack of warmth, lack of romance. Most would be polite, but I basically felt like a friend. With OLD being so bad, this is how I decided to "just pick one" and "they can't all be that bad" and "maybe I'm Too picky." If I continued it with some of these men, the treatment was either more awkwardness to the point of being insufferable, ghosting, or passionless relationships with someone who "tolerated" me and eventually showed outright contempt (NVM + Pickme dynamic). I can't just tolerate "mediocre" anymore, and absolutely have to be attracted to a man inside and out. I hate how dates, conversations, and other things with men through that medium are so unsatisfying and boring these days. Absolutely they looked like saints compared to wife-beating blokes.
[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Yes sis I honestly think this is the goal of dating apps
It really runs womens mental health and standards down because you’re sifting through the worst of men you’d never entertain in real life
Because dating apps draw the most hideous, immature porn sick unsuitable low value men for 100 miles....men you’d never consider in real life.
Most men who swipe on you wouldn’t dare come over in real life. Some of the scrotes who tried to match me I would think pfffffft like you would have the NERVE to try talk to me in real life buddy, who are you KIDDING.
That’s why they NEED the apps for validation and sex- high value women just browse casually once in a while.
But they assume all women on there just struggle too 🙄when realistically HVW women get approached less and sometimes get tempted to browse online. But it’s not worth it.
Which means anyone who isn’t hideously low value looks like a high value catch by default....when actually they’re going to turn out a complete asshole because 90% of women on there had the same idea about him too and he’s speaking to most of them.
They too thought he seemed like a catch- in comparison to the catalogue of hideous trash men we wouldn’t meet in real life anyway - which is why the bar is so low on dating apps.
So this mediocre clown gets his social status massively elevated. Even if he’s average looking, average earning and quite dull and will later turn abusive and arrogant or serial cheat....he thinks he’s top tier because of all the superficial interest online.
Also men don’t seem to be able to differentiate between getting casual sex arrangements with pick mes and a relationship with a HVW. It’s very easy to get casual sex from pick mes. Doesn’t make them high value. Also most are lying to them to get the sex in the first place. Lol so did they really him or his act?
They become a big arrogant fish in a small pond, where if you stuck them in my capital....they look like a bad choice, like you’re massively settling just to have someone. Lol. They would be another nobody.
And having dated much higher quality men in the capital who brought far less audacity and were more generous, wealthy, attractive& interesting...you realise dating apps just force women into this narrow scarcity mode and obscure your standards. When realistically your playground is the entire world. There’s a whole world outside dating apps and plenty of better men with less arrogance concentrated in certain areas. Women aren’t shy of interest worldwide- men aren’t running out anytime soon.
So realistically the best you’ll catch on a dating app after years of swiping through gutter rank trash & wasting time .....is a moderately attractive serial cheat with a dull arrogant/immature personality...who will expect you to go 50/50 a few months in because his haram of Bumble pick mes did. And he’s likely to bring you drama and STIs. And start acting above you.
When realistically I could go a classy rooftop bar on a hot day, start schmoozing and come out with ten numbers from far wealthier men with less attitude to boot because they can visibly see their competition. Lol. Then I can weed them down to 2-3 firm options the next day. Because some will turn out to be bluffing or lame.
If you target the right areas you can easily find options, but you have to be in their line of view where they concentrate and have visible competition- Aka the room is full of business men and you’re at an expensive place where only well dressed men with money get in. Dating apps aren’t targeted enough- every low value guy is on there.
It’s more my cup of tea and bigger payoff than some arrogant cheating mediocre scrote earning under 40k on Bumble. Who acts like he’s some prize when I’ve got much better interest to pursue elsewhere. It’s why these men triangulate you with pick mes from dating apps and try knock you down, because they know you could do much better than what they’re offering.
I mean men think a match means they’re in there, when it’s not that simple. Sometimes you match by accident. A lot of guys on there are delusional about their REAL LIFE competition. It’s why you get 5’9 boring chumps expecting attractive women to roll over & pay for them to use them.
Plus most the women they’re playing on there are Pickmeisha’s who barely know them and are being told he wants a relationship- when he doesn’t or has a girlfriend . So even he’s having to sell lies to keep his soft haram of pick mes.
So it’s really very superficial interest, just cos they can keep a soft haram of pick mes with their games online doesn’t mean they can tie down a high value woman to put up with that in real life.
[–]FluffandRaincloudsRuthless Strategist 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I needed this, thank you ❤ I rarely if ever get approached, but I don't frequent bars and such. I think being off OLD has been the best decision for me . I cannot center my life and leisure activities around meeting men anymore.
[–]modernmedusaaRuthless Strategist 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Either do I tbh but I find it a compliment now.
Majority of scrotes who came over to me in my teens were not men I wanted to talk to.
I get the struggle because if you intimidate men - unless you’re at a place where HVM gather....most won’t make a move.
Which is why I really think HVW have to exclusively go out in certain places where certain men concentrate and can see their competition otherwise it can be tempting to browse on the apps.
If I go to more casual bars and clubs I get hounded by broke LVM all night bc I stick out which is why I practically have to stick to expensive classy places now. It really ruins my night going to casual places and being hounded by unwanted harassment.
The joy of sticking to expensive classy places is that only men with decent jobs, decent dress sense and money can get in. And there’s other HVW keeping the bar up with me lmao. Plus they’re not the only guy with money there, so they tend to have less attitude.
At the very least, you know they can afford to date - which isn’t the case on dating apps.
I rarely get approached at the gym or on the street cos they’re too scared. If they’re too scared to approach a woman they’re wimps, low value or not that interested anyway.
I get approached most at an expensive rooftop bar in the city (that’s more open plan and easy to talk) usually by men with some money, Ching Ching ;)
[–]FluffandRaincloudsRuthless Strategist 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Also good to know thanks! I'm either at work or "everyman" places like the petrol station, lower end department store, food store, etc. Not really upscale places. I think social clubs and hobby groups could help, maybe
[–]Ashamed-Reputation-2 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Towards the end of the relationship, they always love to mention the nice shit they did in the first 3 months but they get so quiet when you mention that they haven't done anything in the past 4
[–]NovemberinthechairFDS Disciple 45 points46 points47 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes.
[–]orangechickengeneralFDS Newbie 39 points40 points41 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"But at least he doesn't hit me!" 🤦🏾
[–]EqvviFDS Apprentice 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Legit had a woman tell me shr thought I must be jealous of their happy relationship because "he'd never raise his hand at me". That was when I told her she should leave the cheater... The bar is in hell and the worst of the worst men keep it there.
[–]blackmetalbettyFDS Newbie 107 points108 points109 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Try watching one of those cheesy action movies like Law Abiding Citizen where a guy's entire female part of the family is violently raped and wiped out by street scum, which gives him the background to be the badass that hunts them down one by one. The female characters are only purposed to die/suffer so he can go all Rambo, good man fights the forces of evil.
[–]PornruinedsocietyFDS Disciple 27 points28 points29 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And ironically the men who look up to these characters watch degrading porn, not knowing if the participants really wanted to take part. They just like to convince themselves they are noble, but really they are not, they just want the glory.
[–]EqvviFDS Apprentice 22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There's a whole name for this, it's such a common trope to create women in fiction just to be abused. Fridged women or women in the fridge.
[–]ccro7FDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's the main reason why I never wanted to watch popular forensic crime shows like NCIS. Every episode seemed to begin with a detailed description of how a woman was tortured and killed. Like, how is that entertaining? And why were the murder victims almost always female? To satisfy its misogynistic audience, clearly.
[–]Winnie6FDS Newbie 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Snuff films..and there are so many snuff film shows, it's horrifying!
[–]blackmetalbettyFDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jesus I had no idea. I wonder about the perspectives of the actresses that undergo these roles.
[–]SoybeanApocalypseFDS Newbie 100 points101 points102 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Normalized male violence gives violent men excuses for their actions, lets mediocre men act like a hero for doing basic shit for the girls they like, and lastly: allows these same mediocre men use male violence as a scare tactic for the women they DON'T like to "warn her away from bad behavior".
This is why so many guys lamely stand by when shitty things happen to us. They pay lip service to how bad it is but they sure do use it to try and police what we do. It's too beneficial for them to truly put in the work to dismantle it.
[–]WafflesTheDuckFDS Newbie 52 points53 points54 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
A thread on a potential 2 child policy and subsequent discussion on the lack of women to marry ended up with a few suggestions of legalizing prostitution so the single men don't go off on killing sprees.
I'm still disgusted by that suggestion. So throw more women at a nationality of men who already think women are subhuman and have no problem gang raping and torturing a 10 year old and throwing her barely alive body in a ditch afterwards?
They don't even care about their sisters and daughters getting raped and murdered. How do you think they'll treat trafficked prostitutes? And they're already violent and chose to elevate men over women. Reap what you sow. The last thing any country on earth needs is more men.
In nature, not everyone gets to reproduce. Some useless , entiitled NEET should have their genes culled. How did it get so backwards?
[–]SoybeanApocalypseFDS Newbie 28 points29 points30 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Something is so fucking wrong here. Every time women are supposed to give something up so that men don't hurt us. But this magical future where men stop doing it never, ever, ever materializes. Because violent men want thrills and taboo, but those are always relative. There is no rule women can adhere to to make men stop being violent, because violent men get their kicks from BREAKING THE RULES.
[–]WafflesTheDuckFDS Newbie 11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow. You're right. Getting away with it is the sort of privilege that would entice an every man Joe type person because that's the sort of privilege usually awarded to people well above their own station.
Kind of like how Kyles and Karens have used service workers as a substitute for having your own private servants to abuse.
[–]GIfuckingJaneFDS STRATEGY COACH 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Women's bodies have been used as sandbags to soak up male violence for centuries.
[–]WafflesTheDuckFDS Newbie 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can you think of other examples offhand?
[–]GIfuckingJaneFDS STRATEGY COACH 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I recommend looking at the framework of male-female relationships and the winners and losers in a historical context.
Who wins when there is a massive financial, educational, and legal imbalance built into the historical patriarchal structure of marriage?
The results are rape in the context of marriage not being illegal until the 1990s in the US, rape culture, unattainable beauty standards imposed on women, high rates of Intimate partner violence due to entitlement and distain/hatred of the woman in a political. Women have been a political scapegoat for centuries to keep the spotlight off of greedy leaders and corporations pulling the strings. Violence towards women was built into the system to provide that outlet for angry men so they didn't turn on the State.
[–]Galileo_SparkFDS Newbie 24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Getting married doesn’t stop violent men. There are men that still go off on sh**ting sprees even when they are married. They start with their wife and kids and then go from there into the community. This happens globally.
Also, what is up with incels and their obsession with k*lling sprees? These men sound like terrorists with how they talk about using violence when they don’t get what they want.
[–]WafflesTheDuckFDS Newbie 30 points31 points32 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. Some woman got stabbed 120+ times by a guy in a relationship after she mistook his car for her uber.
He just spontaneously did it. No stalking or planning. Hes already in a relationship. That's how close we are every day from being murdered. No dark alleys. No forced abductions.
Walking your dog in broad daylight, trying to catch an uber to work, getting pulled over for a tail light being out.
Sorry that I'm not focusing on the draft though. I'm the monster.
[–]PornruinedsocietyFDS Disciple 21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The more they get, the more entitled they become. Men say porn and prostitution stop men raping and killing women, we know it's complete bs and the opposite is happening and so many rapes go unreported as well.
[–]PrincessAmour 29 points30 points31 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
THIS!!!! Men will take the trash out after a women asks and we praise them
[–]ChgItToRayGunYouFuck 16 points17 points18 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, and then the scrotes are always outraged when you are a little cautious about them. NoT aLl MeN, tHo
[–]pozzalovahFDS Apprentice 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes that's true.some of the ppl ik will say things like atleast he is not a cheater.
[–]TellCerseeItWasMeFDS Newbie 9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is it
[–]Equal-Ear2312FDS Apprentice 7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know this has been posted before and before. but hell yeah! I needed a reminder like that!
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]janeaustenfan99FDS Newbie 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. Have heard a man say he doesn’t ever get physically violent with women as though it was an attribute.
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