Are OnlyFans creators exploiting lonely men? | ModernDayDebate

psychosythe · 2024-01-16T17:29:11+00:00

Well, that was 15 mins of my life I'll never get back. They just kept going in circles around the fact that it's objectively harmful as fuck but most people don't see it as appropriate to intervene in someone else's desicion-making at that level no matter how harmful it is.

Also the blue hair dye really did damage Destiny's brain. I had entirely forgotten what it was like to hear him have a not-awful take on something.

sanitaryinspector · 2024-01-16T19:11:50+00:00

Paying for sexual media has been there since the mid 2000s at least, so what did onlyfans add to this? Apart from being centralised and facilitated

To me it's the purposefully blurred line between purchasing content and purchasing a fake friendship or even relationship. Some creators do sell girlfriend packages, which is a blatant fraud as it's already barely legal to be an escort

The authors never meet the users in real life, they'd be disgusted and some have shown that when it happened (look the 60k dollars fan story). Many of them I'm sure despise lonely men that need resort to so much effort for escapism.

flexible-photon · 2024-01-16T21:39:17+00:00

Of course not. Men can't be exploited in a patriarchy. Women are always the victim.

SentientRock209 · 2024-01-15T19:00:52+00:00

The video above is a debate on the idea that onlyfans creators are economically exploiting lonely men as they dangle the fantasy of an intimate girlfriend experience for money. On one side is Destiny, a political livestreamer and Farha, someone who does online sex work and who draws from her own experience for this conversation as they argue that purchasing online sex products is no different than purchasing other possible addictive vices like gambling. On the other side is Alex (or PlayingWithFire), an online dating coach with experience helping men gain experience in online dating but among his clients have been men who've paid for that premium GFE experience and NotSoErudite, someone trained in psychology who at times has delved into men's issues.

To me, it was interesting to see this convo explore the parallels and differences between paying for vices like gambling as opposed to OnlyFans that feels like something that takes more advantage of one's emotional state more than gambling and it was refreshing to hear this topic explored beyond the cliche of "well it's her body, her choice why don't you blame the incels?"

bottleblank · 2024-01-16T16:45:11+00:00

Yes.

Motanul_Negru · 2024-01-16T21:02:59+00:00

I can't believe I just saw and heard Destiny and an internet-famous OF veteran fail to mop the floor with a freaking PUA and - I haven't found anything on NotSoErudite but she's not promising going by this debate.

IbizaMykonos · 2024-01-16T17:24:32+00:00

Yes they are. And many are veterans, and they have zero hesitations of taking their money.

Maleficent-Store9071 · 2024-01-17T15:57:23+00:00

Most services are rooted in selling a false image or profiting off of people's misfortunes. Therapists - many cash grab from depressed people with no results to show. Lawyers with no passion for their job represent people in unfortunate life situations for exorbitant amounts of money. The whole concept of marketing is based on selling an embellished version of the product. And most people are able to understand that a connection you have to pay for is not real or valuable. Most understand that it's a business like any other. So why are OF creators a problem?

Marty-the-monkey · 2024-01-17T09:22:24+00:00

Is the alcohol industry exploiting alcoholics

Is the tobacco industry exploiting smokers

Is the gaming industry exploiting gamblers

Is the fast food industry exploiting fat people

Is the candy industry exploiting kids

Is the mobile app industry exploiting youth

And so on and so on. Etcetera Etcetera.

I don't think there's a single industry in existence where I can find a demographic that's isn't exploited. People overindulgence in something is something we can address, but sensationalizing it like this (making it sound like it's a unique phenomenon) is kind of reductive.

Current_Finding_4066 · 2024-01-17T14:24:47+00:00

Nah, it is always men exploring women! Duh!

/S

MutedBreadfruit106 · 2024-01-16T21:16:08+00:00

The thing about paying for a girlfriend experience is that it leaves you feeling emptier. Granted, that's only my experience. Maybe some men feel fully content with it, but I doubt it.

A while ago I paid for a webcam chick's private show and while it was awesome cuz I was horny AF and lonely after a break up, I could feel how it was just a small aspect of the relationship (sex and attention), void of the personal relational component.

Once I hit post nut clarity I decided it wasn't worth it, cuz it woke up in me that longing for a personal relationship with a woman but did not satisfy it.

Is this exploitation of men? No. It's no more exploitative than selling a beer to a thirsty man. It will probably dehydrate him, but if that's what he wants then it's his prerogative.

Is it exploitation of women? No. Nothing is forced upon them.

SchizoposterX · 2024-01-17T03:00:51+00:00

Very obviously yes.

nased_bigga · 2024-01-18T09:27:44+00:00

depends on one's belief on what is exploitation

hshsgdve · 2024-01-20T06:51:10+00:00

Yes, of course they are. It’s not exploiting people in their mind, because those men aren’t people.

FlexMissile99 · 2024-01-28T21:12:57+00:00

Yes.

Ok-Grape-8389 · 2025-01-08T05:36:39+00:00

Yes. it does.

Money is made trough explotations either of resources or other people. And our system worships money as its god. So your choices are to either have money, have resources, die or exploit other people.

SyrupLongjumping2702 · 2026-02-08T05:12:02+00:00

Yes, this is pretty glaringly obvious next question

Stand_kicker · 2024-01-16T18:51:58+00:00

No. People know what it is and are not being forced to give them money.

Title	Are OnlyFans creators exploiting lonely men? \| ModernDayDebate
Author	SentientRock209
Upvotes	49
Comments	40
Date	January 15, 2024 7:00 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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