Going through the redpill rage phase.

kaspark07 · 2020-04-16T15:19:25+00:00

How is hating women constructive to your life and your goals?

Cabshear · 2020-04-16T21:49:23+00:00

The rage can be useful. While being stuck in hate, and not dealing properly with it can lead you toward a lot of black pill nihilism, it can help you focus.

What productive things can you do with anger? I always found lifting weights and exercising to be useful. Punching bag, religious practices, meditation to focus the mind. All that helps.

I’m sorry mate, there were lies. Lots of lies and the people who told them too you? They’re still back there. Stuck in those lies. It seems rather cliche to say “you woke up” but you kinda did!

Rage, be angry. Not at yourself. However, it’s imperative that you control it. Not let yourself become controlled by it. When it’s time To let the rage and hate go, let it all go.

Wokmichelin · 2020-04-17T01:09:48+00:00

Stop stressing yourself out by reading shit that stresses you out.

Red pill theories have some truth to them, but they should be carefully examined instead of swallowing whole. Because human beings (yes, even women) actually come in multiple flavors. The theories are just archetypes; they don't automatically mean that every single woman is a cheating, golddigging whore.

All women are like that if you believe they are.

And your beliefs are what shape your reality.

But, even if you do continue to believe in AWALT; once you find your own center it doesn't even matter if it's true or not. Because the only actions you can control are your own.

So take what's useful and then throw the rest away. Getting bitter for a moment can be useful, but staying bitter is suicide.

When you get the message, hang up the phone.

Alan Watts

30203forever · 2020-04-16T16:15:14+00:00

Looks like you have too much time on your hands. Work toward you financial independence AND do some serious sports when that "redpill rage" is trying to pull you down. Just concentrating on these two endeavors will pull you through, guaranteed. Set your goals, put them in writing with deadlines and just do it. What's the alternative? P.S. I'm 50 yo and would gladly sacrifice a finger or two just to have access to your knowledge when I was your age. Ether Vilar and other books which I never heard of back then, you know? And still, I managed to never get married (or even move a camel into my tent) and became financially independent last year (started on that road at 30). Had I known what you know, I'd not have to work for anyone by my mid 30s. So take your anger and put it to some good use instead of wasting your energy on people who will never care for you no matter what you do. Good luck!

Jake4523 · 2020-04-16T16:25:48+00:00

Take that anger and put it to good use. Go work out, lift some weights at home, or do some push ups. You can be upset, mad , whatever but don't hate, and don't let it control you.

ckreon · 2020-04-16T16:42:33+00:00

You can't blame women anymore than you blame men. Both genders constantly try to maximize their prime instinctual directives, and we've worked to a point where both can be very "successful" in that.

Recognize the game we're all playing, and the underlying causes for the state of things - use your logic. Once you do, you won't be able to be overly angry toward anyone.

It's not women's fault they were born into the most open and competitive sexual market the world has ever known.

That said, un-learning is never easy or fun, and we were definitely taught the wrong things.

That is the better target for anger, in my opinion. What kind of system knowingly builds such a false dichotomy, preaches honor and loyalty and then promotes everything but. Tells us not to do one thing and then ONLY shows us that thing over and over.

There are things we should be very angry at, but women are not that thing.

Impossible-asset · 2020-04-16T17:46:24+00:00

Well.. get past it.

No. Really. Get the fuck past it. Honest advice.

Put those thoughts into an another analogy.: "I realllly hate trees now because they drop leaves and sap and are fodder for squirrels and shit. Fuck trees. Even my christmas tree sucks because it's a tree." ..... does that make any sense? No.

Neither does hating women for why they are the way they are. Sure there's "female nature" bullshit that people with nothing better to do get absolutely wrapped around the axle about, but more like it's the laws. Laws incentivize the behavior.

If the law said "hey Mikee, when you quit your job, it's ok to stop by the cashier and take half of what they have in there." Guess what I would do? I'd be getting paid on my way out the door. Just like women do in divorce court.

Well. Now you figured it out. Good for you. You shouldn't be pissed at all. You should be like "SWEET! So all I have to do is not get married or live with a chick and I'm not going to get divorce raped. And if I dont bother with a girlfriend I wont get monkey branches or have to deal with false sexual harrassment claims. Break out the WHORES AND COCAINE baby!!".

Spending you time being pissed does nothing. Zip, nada for you.

You're now free to focus your constructive attention on improving yourself so you can be happy and successful.

Youre welcome.

Tookarn · 2020-04-16T17:50:23+00:00

Guilty here, I've been through the rage phase and now I'm just quietly calm and accepting of the social dynamic between the sexes.

It will take some time for your anger and frustration to pass but I would suggest that you at least try not to make things worse by acting them out. Focus on yourself and I wish you well in your endeavours

Leonidas0902 · 2020-04-18T09:35:58+00:00

Listen to Metal Bro!! Especially slipknot, Pantera

Learn martial art, where you can compete against other MEN. Use your anger in working harder on achieving your dreams.

kubicas · 2020-04-20T13:42:34+00:00

Don't get stuck on negative thinking. Real understanding will set you free. It's your anger and resistance towards the things that are in the world no matter if you like it or not. Accept it and use that hatred as a fuel and cope by heavy workouts, music, art, hobbies and putting things into motion. Don't let it fester passively. Become indifferent to what's out there and control and do what you really want bro. Girls will come and go or stay away from them, it's your choice but forget about idea of having someone forever be it family, friends, girls. That's attachment "issue" in current times. Faith practices, discipline and principles will definitely help. Be a man of conviction and don't break it for nobody.

CaptainTarantula · 2020-04-20T14:23:34+00:00

Simps attract bad partners. Its kinda like the woman who always ends up with the deadbeat. I learned that women in general are not the problem. Girlfriends have screwed me over. I have screwed over girlfriends. No one is perfect. The best marriages I've seen are where people make efforts to improve. That kind of lifestyle is not for me. Don't hate the player. Hate the game instead.

panzer0001 · 2020-04-21T14:08:33+00:00

U r mad at yourself actually.once u figure it out it goes away

panzer0001 · 2020-04-21T14:07:49+00:00

Catching a brick with your face. Lmao

NotherThrowaway284 · 2020-04-17T14:53:04+00:00

Others here have already given good advice, so I'll only add this: having something else to do and prioritize really helped me.

If all there is for you to do is sit around and think about it, it'll drive you crazy. Find something else to pour yourself into.

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KellySummerlin · 2020-04-25T05:30:51+00:00

Misplaced blame, overgeneralizing half of humanity.

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Cfaraway · 2020-04-18T01:12:03+00:00

Not sure how, but you have to work through the anger. Get to some of the classics in your reading, such as Seneca (who I've never read, I'll admit!). The point is to learn to accept the world as it is, change what you can, and not worry about the rest. And the thing you can most successfully change is ... you.

I know I'm not being helpful. I've been through the rage too. It gets better. In my case, it helped a lot to realize that the desire I had for women is really a kind of sickness, a harmful addiction. So now, like a recovering alcoholic, I know it is with me every day. And every day I fight to overcome it. And if one day I fall off the wagon, the next day I get back on.

Hang in there, and come here to talk sometimes. You have brothers.

csehszlovakze · 2020-04-17T08:11:29+00:00

It's perfectly normal to go through it, but what you do with it is up to you. It can help with exercise, putting yourself in monk mode (no sexual/romantic situations of any kind), deep diving in MGTOW content etc.

1st10Amendments · 2020-04-17T05:25:47+00:00

While AWALT, it isn’t necessarily so that women don’t love men. They simply love differently.

They think the way they love is what love is supposed to be, and when men don’t meet their standards, they assume men don’t love them. It isn’t so much that they’re all evil, it’s that they are different than men. That is not the only way men and women differ; I mention it only as an example.

Feminism has given them the ability to act on those differences. Before, women had to hitch their wagon to a rising star to be able to afford nice things. Now they can be the rising star and acquire the good things without a man. What they do need men for is an orgasm. Well, the heterosexual women, anyway. And so they’d find a man - any man, have her way with him, use him for what she wants, take all and give back as little as necessary to keep him from walking off the court... unless and until she wants him gone.

But then they get Baby Rabies and find the window closing, or they approach or hit The Wall and have trouble finding a man who would touch her with tenderness, but only lust or as a sperm pouch.

So the women try to marry for love. But they still think of themselves as the great catch they were once. (I am in my fifties, but if you ask me, I still see myself as I did when I was in my twenties and thirties, so I get how the women feel.)

I say all that to say this: they aren’t evil, so they don’t merit my hatred. They are, however, different. That would be okay, too, except their view of men is skewed far off base. So far, in fact, that they consider my masculinity to be toxic. I am a monster to their way of thinking, simply because I have gonads that produce testosterone.

I still wouldn’t mind so much. I do believe all people have the right to think however they want to. They can be racist or hate “normies” or “breeders” (heterosexuals), but when they act on that emotion and either act with aggression or advocate aggression, up with that I shall not put. Now they’re actually dangerous not just different, but armed and after my very hide, starting with my manhood (literally and figuratively).

So, I am no longer in the Black Pull phase. I am simply cautious.

Now I wouldn’t touch one with a ten-foot pole.

DonMelbourne · 2020-04-17T00:20:28+00:00

You're not suffering from red-pill rage, you're suffering from blue-pill rage. That is, some part of you still wants the blue-pill world to be true, so you are resentful and resisting giving that up.

Once you have fully swallowed the red-pill, and realise that this red-pill world is the one to live in because it is simply better here, then you can finally let go of the blue-pill world. Good luck, brother!

P.S. And don't hate your mum! She has experienced her own travails. Talk to her, and try to understand what she's been through. Respect her experiences just as you would want her to respect yours, even if she doesn't. Just don't compromise your own needs while doing that.

Lifeat35 · 2020-04-16T15:22:58+00:00

Most here have been through the phase to some extent.

It’s going to take time for acceptance, especially if you’re newly separated.

Start focusing on you, not them. There’s no reason to hate women, just understand you’re better off working on you. The longer you go, the less you’ll care.

prophetoffun · 2020-04-16T23:16:41+00:00

Been there with the Vilar stuff, it’s very convincing now but odds are you either will meet or have forgotten you’ve met women that actually have convictions and ambitions.

evigungkar · 2020-04-16T23:00:27+00:00

Probably most of your anger is not warranted, but that is unimportant. What is important is that anger is not going to help you. Anger takes up some of the finite resources of your mind that could have gone towards your betterment or happiness. It also puts forth a sort of exterior blame or lament which is without purpose. You do not control the exterior forces that act upon you. All you control is yourself and if you have suffered then all you can do is change your ways so you do not. You are your biggest problem, not women and whatever expectations you feel they have failed to meet.

Even if you have in any sense been wronged by anyone you should not be angry. It is only to suffer twice. I think it was Seneca who said that man is not affected by events, but by the view he takes of them. Last week my car got keyed by a person who happened to be a woman. Some nut. Now I could have been angry, but it would change nothing. I simply considered where I had parked; a bad spot. I admitted to myself some contributory negligence and will be acting differently onwards. Instead of being angry I was happy to have insurance. It's already been repaired.

901735 · 2020-04-16T20:59:49+00:00

How did u go through all this? Idk what to do.

wank, fap
come to the bottom of what it is you want from and for yourself this time and what are the steps to get to it
work on results of 2
only build yourself up, never tear yourself down
when you fail to do 4, it was most likely because you didn't do 3, so return to either 1 or 2
goto 1

p.s. As a male to a male - your rage comes from you having external wants, when not met, it makes you hurt. If you do not have any wants, you are free to just observe, no judgement, the hardest part being you judging yourself.

Reciprocity12 · 2020-04-16T19:02:04+00:00

I didnt really have a rage phase but Barbarossa's content got me through whatever it was. It was sort of this angry call to personal empowerment. I dont expect that to work for others the way it worked for me.

For the average rager I recommend exploring TFM's red pill grief cycle. I'm not a huge TFM fan but he put alot of thought into it and I think its valuable.

First vid seems like a silly asian cartoon but it sets the stage for the framework. https://youtu.be/AsKyUxS05mc

Second vid he starts to get into the mechanics of it all and addresses the unpleasant topics. https://youtu.be/yQkrIiKKQOA

The rest of the series looks likes it on that last channel. He has mostly moved to bitchute and only a few gems of his remain on YT.

IBudgetForIt · 2020-04-16T18:02:42+00:00

If you have to be angry, then be angry at the lies society has fed to you about the nature of women, rather than being angry at women who are just being who they really are. Can't be angry at a cat for being a cat, but you can be angry at lies about the nature of a cat.

GulfCoast_Ty · 2020-04-16T17:45:50+00:00

I think we all went through some form of rage, my thing is to not listen to alot of the ragers on youtube. I noticed that the more I listened to their rage the angrier I became. I focus more on my life, wants, needs, and goals. I feel sorry for my brothers getting put through the ringer in divorce and family courts and I learn from they're mistakes but I can't/won't hate all women simply bc of their gender.

Title	Going through the redpill rage phase.
Author	veeryohn
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Date	April 16, 2020 3:16 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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