40,000 suicides per year (mostly men) yet mental health is a women's issue that needs special attention

stop_stalking_me · 2014-12-22T19:57:22+00:00

Are they seriously going to throw around that number which is made up of mostly males to make a claim that women need special attention? WTF kind of logic is this?

mattatinternet · 2014-12-22T23:36:55+00:00

This is brand that, from what I can gather, specializes in products aimed primarily, if not exclusively, at women.

I see nothing wrong with them using the proceeds of sales to advance the cause of women's mental health issues.

tipper_the_clown · 2014-12-23T03:08:15+00:00

I don't think this particular link is anything to get outraged about, I don't see where they specifically downplay mens issues.

That said, the vast majority of anti-suicide movements/commercials/organizations or what have you, seem to focus on women.

What about the men who kill themselves?

God only knows, we live in a society where male lives are disposable. It breaks my heart to even think about it. People aren't aware of how much of a problem it is with young men today.

nobody2000 · 2014-12-22T20:11:07+00:00

sigh

Suicide is mentioned only in the first paragraph. It's an attention grabber. Nothing else - your title is clickbait.
The proceeds are going toward mental health awareness, with a special focus on those that affect women.
The brand is a brand that probably has something like a 95-99% female customer base. This is who they communicate to, sell to, and make all their money from. It's strategically important for them to communicate that they focus on what's good for women.
They can do whatever they please with their money. They're a company in a free-market economy, and they want to contribute to female mental illness. Who am I, you, or anyone else to stop them?
They aren't necessarily downplaying men at all in this. They're stating their intentions, goals, and announcing this campaign.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

Frittern · 2014-12-22T20:18:05+00:00

I cant believe how blind I use to be about the rampant sexism against men ..

ToonTheShed · 2014-12-23T02:21:59+00:00

Here is Stats Canada for 2009

Qapiojg · 2014-12-23T13:02:09+00:00

The issue is not that this private company targets women, they have that right, the issue is that they're using the complete 40,000 number to advertise themselves. They'll only be helping about 8,000 of those people, so why misrepresent themselves with the inflated number.

Elvick · 2014-12-23T10:10:10+00:00

So let me get this straight...

“The stigma around mental illness is so entrenched,” said Dr. Vranich, “and even more for Americans because it’s a ‘pull yourself up by your bootstraps’ and ‘don’t complain’ kind of society.”

This is applied to men far more often than women in reality. Yet, they're focusing on helping women who suffer from mental health issues?

I guess men should continue to pull up their bootstraps and not complain, because women first. I know it's a female focused product, but I think this is a real example of the failings our society has.

No one minds supporting women with breast cancer, even if they aren't women. People buy things they might not otherwise. [whether the money actually goes to it or it's more a marketing ploy is another story]

Why can't people be happy to support everyone with mental health issues? I would feel good about helping everyone. Just as I would feel good about helping women specifically. Or helping men specifically. I'd rather help everyone possible, because that acknowledges them all.

With depression especially, this is just another thing to be depressed about. It's kind of counter intuitive to me, it wants to help with mental health focused on women. While men continue to fall deeper into the hole. I've suffered from severe depression and suffer from crippling social anxiety. I managed to get out of my depression with pure self will, but it is not easy to do that at all and most people need help. If they don't get it, it only gets worse and worse.

Focus needs to be on helping everyone suffering. Everyone should matter and everyone should feel great to support a company that supports everyone. It shouldn't be a good marketing tool to focus on helping just who your product is for.. Only men's products are often used to help raise money for women too. It's just shit.

registereduser2 · 2014-12-22T20:15:26+00:00

I don't think suicide is a 'mental health' issue. At least not in the way that you and those you're criticizing think it is. Suicide is surely a sign of good mental health, not poor mental health.

Title	40,000 suicides per year (mostly men) yet mental health is a women's issue that needs special attention
Author	stop_stalking_me
Upvotes	142
Comments	56
Date	December 22, 2014 7:50 PM UTC (11 years ago)
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