After missing out two times in the final interviews(of engineering jobs) during my senior year due to diversity quota, this boils my blood

-MrPornFlakes- · 2020-09-07T08:40:31+00:00

Here's a genious thought maybe only accept people on the basis of their work and nothing else whoever is not worthy enough does not get the job

user_miki · 2020-09-07T08:44:20+00:00

This is how US tax payers funding feminism in developing countries.This is not a singular country ,is everywhere where US "help" is needed. Trump just found out that this ideology is in his government.I'm curious if they will extend the ban to foreign aid programs.

ShortTailBoa · 2020-09-07T06:43:38+00:00

This is disgusting. I don't know how anyone can look at this and not feel outraged by this injstucie.

Society is fucked.

MingSushi · 2020-09-07T11:39:15+00:00

So basically “Sorry you didn’t get a chance to interview, we’re only allowing women to do it but better luck next time” Bull. Shit. Absolute bullshit

Jexmaster · 2020-09-07T10:30:43+00:00

Can you temporarily“identify” as one?

dailysushi · 2020-09-07T11:31:32+00:00

This is the second time I see a post like this from Pakistan. The media potrays Pakistan as a sexist hellhole for women, then I see all this feminist pro-woman stuff. Is no country safe from this nonsense.

I mean does merit or equality exist in any country anymore?

docb30tn · 2020-09-07T08:21:36+00:00

Pandemic or not that's illegal.

hart-r · 2020-09-07T11:14:01+00:00

Welcome to equity, not equality

SonnBaz · 2020-09-07T11:08:19+00:00

Why the fuck are these idiots operating in my damn country?

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2020-09-07T14:39:36+00:00

Worst patriarchy ever.

Azad_h · 2020-09-07T13:46:14+00:00

when we have so many excellent applicants

Oh pls stfu you are picking your "excellent applicants" by their gender

Thanos_damadredditor · 2020-09-07T12:01:54+00:00

Women have no excuse to be broke in 2020 there are companies that will literally hire you just for having a vagina. And not to mention the other avenues to make money. This push to hire women is 10x stronger than the push to hire people of color.

fuck_ya_bud · 2020-09-07T13:28:55+00:00

Identify and apply as a woman. Done.

Rockbottom503 · 2020-09-07T12:26:42+00:00

To combat discrimination what we're going to do is discriminate against a different group...... But that's entirely acceptable because the newly discriminated group can't complain about it or they're misogynists!

njacc · 2020-09-07T13:32:36+00:00

Claim that you’re a trans-woman to get in. If they won’t even the playing field, take it into your own hands and do what’s right.

agarciase · 2020-09-07T14:33:53+00:00

In my university if you are a woman doing engineering you get 2 points more than a guy doing engineering to accés scholarships, just because you are a girl, they treat it like a disability or something

hammybutt · 2020-09-07T14:48:57+00:00

Ok as a female in engineering, things like this make MY blood boil. Honestly, it's the most backwards, anti-feminist thing to do to treat us like poor, incapable ladies who need handouts in order to make it. I know someone who worked in our college admissions office and got to see applicants' test scores, and she noticed a trend where the few females who were getting accepted had a significantly lower bar to pass than male counterparts. Shocking, then, when most of the students who then struggled academically were female. This absolutely does not help against the stereotype of "underqualified female engineers" and - in my opinion - almost creates more resentment against women in STEM. I've worked my butt off to get where I am, and I don't want to be given a job just for being a woman and to have male coworkers initially doubt me before they work with me. Too often I've seen underqualified women taking up space that other people have worked hard for and I honestly think it harms BOTH men and women. Ugh. Rant over...and I'm sorry to all the men who have to deal with this. I know I'm not the only woman who feels this way.

Lorenz99 · 2020-09-07T12:58:47+00:00

I feel your pain. Was among the top of my class for the very specific field I was studying for. I got passed up for all internships that I could reasonably apply for. But... All diversity check mark students got them. This country is going to shit because of these quotas. Under qualified people are getting jobs they have no right getting because of the color of their skin or what's between their legs.

playerthomasm6 · 2020-09-07T13:16:40+00:00

It has to be illegal to select people by gender right? They just went right out and said it.

MostLikelyPoopingRN · 2020-09-07T13:17:41+00:00

Equality is so great.

Similar thing happened to me. I applied for a position at an organization where a (female) friend works. I mentioned it to her saying I applied for the XYZ department, then she looks apologetically at me and says “oh XYZ department? They only hire women there...”

heyyy-kiddo · 2020-09-07T12:01:04+00:00

Do yourself a favor and ditch them. They chose quotas you choose other programs. If they want to play it like this so be it. Let's see how long they can take it. US is heavily relaying on external workforce for STEM fields and more than 70% are male. Just go to other countries:China(future prospect looks good as US struggles to keep up),Japan,Russia,Europe(but not UK).

excess_inquisitivity · 2020-09-07T13:06:53+00:00

mhandanna · 2020-09-07T14:24:20+00:00

(Meanwhile nothing is done to get more men in to university in general - with the UK head of university admissions Professor Mary Curnock, even calling this a scandal that nothing is being done about this, and blamed feminism and peoples fear of being called misogynists)

If you want some data a male professor needs 80% more publications, 260% more citations and 72-83% higher H index compared to a woman to get a professorship... many unversities informally only allow hiring female professors and a few do so openly... the Dutch one is a good example.... no men allowed for 18 months to apply for any acadmiec job and women who are hired get 100,000 euro bonus for research and. mentoring.... they are being legally challenged for this

NORWAY parliment (Iceland and Sweeden did the same thing, affirmative action cant be used on men... feminsits in iceland went berserk when a small admission grant was propsed to men in nursing in a university where 98% of nursing students were female so it was stopped and in Sweeden feminsts sued (while simulataneously calling for that kind of thing for women lol))

There is some concern that the Equal Status Act is being interpreted in some quarters to mean equal access by men to occupations where they seem to be underrepresented, such as health and welfare occupations.The representative told members that the Gender Equality Act permits different treatment of the sexes when that promotes gender equality. So far, different treatment with respect to women has only been permitted in favour of women.

Why feminism has no place in egilatarianism

In 2017 the UK’s Chief Medical Officer Dame Sally Davies replied to requests stating that she had no plans to conduct an annual report into men’s health, despite having published a detailed and extensive annual report into women’s health strategy in 2015

Feminism in a nutshell:

There was the Irish education minister in her report on gender ineqaulaity in educaiton I shit you not.... this is what she said.... she ignores male underperformance in primary school, highschool , degree, masters, phd, male exlcusion rates, higher rates leaving with no qualifications, hugher illetracy, higher exclusion, drugging with ADHD drugs etc.... less men in primary teaching, highschool, college, university and the sum of the report was that the gender imbalance was not enough senior female professors and urgent action needs to be taken (Ireland is as well now, they made multiple female only professorships).... I shit you not

ThePolarisWarrior · 2020-09-07T14:30:39+00:00

US, EU, UN, ... They are all forcing feminism on all other weaker countries. Every "aid" comes with a feminist condition. Weaker countries need to realigned themselves and cut off influence from these bullies.

2020-09-07T14:39:30+00:00

It's hurtful to men and patronizing to women. Just hire the person who's best for the job, no matter if they're a man, a woman, or neither.

Diaz_Linetti · 2020-09-07T14:51:20+00:00

As a woman, I completely disagree with women-only programmes and hiring processes.

IGuessThisIsFine91 · 2020-09-07T16:54:31+00:00

This sounds like how Biden picked his VP, no?

Ahielia · 2020-09-07T12:51:24+00:00

This is blatant sex discrimination.

lancashirehotpot91 · 2020-09-07T14:11:23+00:00

Female privilege. How on earth can this be allowed? And worse still, people actually support things like this? Equality of opportunity - yes! Equality of outcome? Ridiculous and discriminatory. Surely stuff like this has been challenged in court? It should not be legal.

Maybe OP should just temporarily identify as female to get in?

Do people who benefit from affirmative action feel comfortable to get stuff handed to them just because of their genetics rather than their achievements and merit? Can they be sure that others who worked harder to get to the same level aren't judging them because the system was favoured them?

I know there is a problem with discrimination and work needs to be done to tackle it, but affirmative action ain't the answer.

WolfeBane84 · 2020-09-07T14:24:43+00:00

"in pakistan"

Am I reading this right. They want to send a group of only women....to Pakistan....

Really?

Confuzzeddotcom · 2020-09-07T14:35:36+00:00

The rules for work and employment in Pakistan and India are crazy, I can understand some are there to protect women but sometimes it goes too far.

kingjohn1919 · 2020-09-07T18:19:53+00:00

Straight up sexism, and 100% against your fundamental rights

WarOfNoise · 2020-09-07T18:26:32+00:00

United States Educational Foundation... in Pakistan?

LollipopFlip · 2020-09-07T18:47:34+00:00

That's exactly how black people feel with incentives they receive here in the US.

mocnizmaj · 2020-09-07T20:05:34+00:00

This is ridiculous. I work in a warehouse, and during last two months we didn't have a lot of work, and when contracts from some workers expired, they didn't renew them. Now, when I come to my job I like to work, I don't slack, my time flies faster when I work, so I do my work and I don't complain. But, as the business is recovering, they start bringing new people, and as I'm in Germany they have these quotas of man and woman they have to employ, at least that's what I think it is. We have 3 men and 7 women working in the part of warehouse where I work. Out of these 7 women only 1 is capable of working in a warehouse. These 6 other women are to small and weak to work in a warehouse. What happens? You have one man per shift doing work, while these women stand around and chat. Why? Because they can't lift the packages, and what they can do, they do it slower than we do it. So, they fill their goddamn quotas, but now I have to work for other people, and we are paid the same. Tell me universe, is that fair?

Immastopya · 2020-09-08T04:01:27+00:00

My grandfather who just died basically kickstarted higher education in pakistan. He wanted everyone to have a better education, a better life. EVERYONE.

dcsievert · 2020-09-08T05:40:08+00:00

"I identify as a female for all career matters. Don't repress me!" This would probably work in the US. Might get you shot in Pakistan?

King-Zahi2438 · 2020-09-07T13:31:15+00:00

Seriously?

BurningOrangeHeaven · 2020-09-07T14:01:13+00:00

Maybe you can contact the local news and try to "expose" them the way its comminly done for every other issue.

saicho91 · 2020-09-07T14:15:33+00:00

idk where you are from but here you can sue the compagni for that!

Ash_Divine · 2020-09-07T14:42:07+00:00

Diversity over competence just so the corporate overlords can look good. Honestly when will this shit end? You don't achieve equality by denying the opposite sex the opportunity. I don't know feminists would say this is but it is not feminism, that's for sure.

secwizzz · 2020-09-07T15:01:10+00:00

Time to start identifying as whatever you want. I would resubmit the application and let them know you have transitioned. Wear a dress to the interview.

125612561256 · 2020-09-07T15:05:42+00:00

This is why all the resumes should be without a name and wothout a picture. No need for quotas.

jwinf843 · 2020-09-07T15:42:06+00:00

Time to start saying you identify as a woman on your applications.

TopcodeOriginal1 · 2020-09-07T15:51:48+00:00

Sue them, that’s illegal

Walshy231231 · 2020-09-07T15:56:15+00:00

Is this not illegal? Seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen

tryintofly · 2020-09-07T15:57:35+00:00

What the fuck?

BelievesInGod · 2020-09-07T16:02:51+00:00

Maybe you should just identify as a woman and they object you can call them out on their anti-trans rights

Smaskifa · 2020-09-07T16:08:35+00:00

There's a huge push in tech to bring in more diverse (i.e., anything but straight, white men) employees. I work in tech and interview candidates. I've interviewed FAR more women than men in the last couple of years. This is not due to lack of male applicants. Most of the candidates I've interviewed are either Indian or Chinese.

There's also ADA academy which provides free tuition for a limited number of female web developers. It's a good school, we've hired a few employees from them and I've been happy with their graduates. However, they have a stated goal of at least 50% of their candidates being minorities. So my straight, white girlfriend, while already studying on her own for years and being easily qualified to get in got rejected 3 times in a row and gave up.

caem123 · 2020-09-07T16:12:46+00:00

Fulbright? fuck them.

Oblivity0 · 2020-09-07T16:23:51+00:00

Wowwwww I’m surprised of the blatant discrimination especially for a US education foundation

tisseenschande · 2020-09-07T16:25:47+00:00

Ah, equality at work

pirateofmemes · 2020-09-07T16:29:47+00:00

sometimes i see people do things for women and i think "fair play to ya, they need it". then i see things like this. and i think we need bullets, we need pitchforks and we need gasoline and lighters. this shit makes me want to burn down society.

Existent_ · 2020-09-07T16:31:15+00:00

I just had to do a school assignment on why women are "underrepresented" in STEM fields, it's honestly so idiotic that they cant fathom that people shouldnt even care about gender in the workplace bc it's not important. It doesnt deserve to be talked about bc it doesnt matter and I'm sad that I had to talk about it for a grade.

KesterGW · 2020-09-07T16:58:17+00:00

Yeah sexism in stem against men is rife atm

dvzel · 2020-09-07T18:19:01+00:00

equality of outcome is discrimination

universallybanned · 2020-09-07T18:26:59+00:00

For most careers, you can learn what you need without relying on universities. Men need to make their own way and build their own businesses. Abandon the systems that have already abandoned you and work together with other men who have built themselves into something without these systems.

je97 · 2020-09-07T18:49:04+00:00

I hate diversity quotas as a gay disabled guy. I'd hate to feel like I got somewhere based on certain characteristics rather than me being the best candidate. I'd constantly be questioning myself.

dikbum · 2020-09-07T18:54:38+00:00

Gives you full grounds to sue for sexism. Godspeed.

Mackdude15 · 2020-09-07T19:03:15+00:00

Shit like this has turned me into a Republican

TigPlaze · 2020-09-07T20:18:08+00:00

Wow, that's blatant sexism. I hope they get the shit sued out of them.

RedPillMissionary · 2020-09-07T20:18:24+00:00

We need to repeal affirmative action. It turned white women into a privileged class in every facet of society

SgtMajMythic · 2020-09-07T20:32:33+00:00

Wait wtf. This is illegal if you are in the US. Not sure who to contact, but I suggest the non-emergency police line in your area.

corbiniscool · 2020-09-07T21:57:41+00:00

As you are aware, due to the COVID-19 situation the UGRAD selection process had to come to a halt. Due to the continued uncertainty, we regret that we are only able to select a small group comprised only of men for the Spring 2021 cohort. The remaining interviews will be conducted online on September 10, 2020. All the interviewees for that day have been called and contacted. The final selection will be made from these and earlier interviewers. We regret that we are unable to select more this year when we have so many excellent applicants. We encourage you to apply for the next Fulbright Master's degree competition.

LegendaryEmu1 · 2020-09-08T04:30:29+00:00

Thats discrimination...

deathr919 · 2020-09-08T16:24:28+00:00

Bro just say your transgender and boom your in

bestmidnight45 · 2020-09-09T00:13:38+00:00

Yeah, they should definitly pick a smaller group of people, but ONLY WOMEN??! we need another planet...

Random_redditor3626 · 2020-09-10T02:15:59+00:00

I see this as a good thing

Strikester101 · 2020-09-07T06:56:29+00:00

I'm confused, what?

What about the small group of women?

theclassybutler · 2020-09-07T21:03:26+00:00

Oh boo hoo. Boo hoo hoo

FUNonABun_713 · 2020-09-07T17:32:11+00:00

Wow, its like you have no fault in this at all, and diversity quotes etc lol. In my experience, you are just a bad interviewer or have a low level engineering degree

Double-Let8318 · 2020-09-07T12:37:19+00:00

TBF, Pakistan actually does oppress women

fakeuser515357 · 2020-09-07T15:26:33+00:00

I think this sub needs to have a serious look at itself when it supports the rage of a person who is complaining about a program which is improving women's prospects in fucking Pakistan.

SuperiorFarter · 2020-09-07T10:34:55+00:00

Women are more susceptible to social influence. They are easier to brainwash into voting liberal. That's why they let them in the universities and keep men out. Don't take it personally. This is clown world after all.

simcityguy09 · 2020-09-07T10:02:39+00:00

Get fucked lol

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