Despite all the talk blaming men about objectification and beauty standards, I've noticed most men in my life are very accepting of all types of women including their weight, body shapes and faces. Most women I know are very critical of man's appearance as well as his status.

carpeCactus · 2024-04-26T01:09:03+00:00

It’s always women who body shame other women. By and large, women use shame in their social interactions, not men.

Slight-Rent-883 · 2024-04-25T20:05:44+00:00

Jeezus yeah agreed. Some fat hog of a woman would almost always find a way to make fun of my height. Safe to say, I don’t talk to her at all unless she somehow is invited to some group I’m with

But even with my exes yeah. Just sad. But no, patriarchy and feminism lol

63daddy · 2024-04-25T20:48:12+00:00

Consider how common morbidly obese models are these days and how they are glorified whereas obese male models hardly exist at all.

Consider how much more time women spend than men on make up, hair, clothing, etc, specifically to be noticed (objectified).

Feminists objectification arguments simply don’t hold up to real life.

jessi387 · 2024-04-25T23:16:31+00:00

I can’t tell you how many times a woman has commented on my weight. I’m quite fit. And yet when I ever I lose a bit of weight so to stress, there they are to let me know. Like I asked . Funny from a group of people who demand that people respect their boundaries

Cybralisk · 2024-04-25T23:12:38+00:00

Men judge women's attractiveness on a normal bell curve so it's far more fair. i.e. a 5 is a 5 and an 8 is an 8 for the most part. Women don't do this, they judge an 8 to be a 6 and a 6 to be a 4 as well as highly over rating there own attractiveness. This is why you can be above average/good looking on dating apps as a man and get very few matches and if you look average or below you get none.

LunarRiviera21 · 2024-04-26T04:05:52+00:00

Women put themselves as a "trophy". So if you wanna get me, step up your game dear men. This is modern woman POV now.

As a male, i am sad to see generation modern women act like this. It makes me "not to date 20's or younger generation"

Tiny_Professional358 · 2024-04-26T03:35:50+00:00

Because the average and below average man is constantly forced to face the reality of what he can and can’t attract. Modern average and below average women are told they deserve the best for doing nothing.

TheSoundOfAnarchy · 2024-04-26T04:57:59+00:00

WOMEN ARE IN COMPETITION WITH OTHER WOMEN.

No matter how hard they try and twist it. Was is their unhinged obsession with putting it on us.

Lol, this is over. We are not dumb -

Ok-Yogurtcloset7394 · 2024-04-26T10:02:09+00:00

there was a statistics posted here once and it confirmed it. women are much more picky and more highly value beauty standards compared to men.

however this is mainly due to the spread of beauty sterotypes. trying to blame men for it however, is just idiotic.

stinkydogusa · 2024-04-26T09:39:59+00:00

It is the less attractive women. Beautiful women don’t do this. It’s a self esteem thing. They’re ugly so they have to have a guy above them(in their opinion) as a confidence boost.

Make-TFT-Fun-Again · 2024-04-26T15:16:10+00:00

Women consider 80% of men to be below average lol #girlmath

CarHungry · 2024-04-26T01:25:04+00:00

I think when feminists refer to objectification they are refering to women sexualizing themselves and then being rewarded massively for it via attention and resources. Women see it and then it encourages more women to do it on a societal level. What you're refering to applies more to individuals.

I don't know how you would fix this though since it's a pretty normal part of human sexuality and taking away women's ability to publicly display their sexuality or the ability to profit from it seems like an even bigger injustice.

Lonewolf_087 · 2024-04-26T18:07:43+00:00

Not me and it’s an issue for me. Idk it makes a problem for you if you aren’t attractive but you crave attractive people. It’s not a fun situation to be in honestly.

Sassy_hampster · 2024-04-26T11:23:37+00:00

Only care about the weight .

BlueThespian · 2024-04-26T13:53:02+00:00

Well men don’t really have a choice in this matter, in today’s dating market, men tend to think that putrid meat is better than not having any meat. While woman only want the best meat available. The best women will got with the best men, and to that I am not referring to the physically appealing ones. But honestly the one constant is that power has always reigned supreme, economic, political, and high ranking positions on distinguished companies. The problem arises when those powerful people start shooting below themselves, it crashes the dating market and they become highly sought after, it also gives hope to those subpar (mostly women) who will shoot above themselves and hold out till they strike gold.

My father was a pretty powerful man, he divorced my mother and he shot below himself (he was already a man in his late 50’s by this point), chose an ugly woman (she was 28), who was subpar, poor school performance, poor life skills, dressed like “cheap royalty” to keep appearances, no kitchen skills, etc. Seeing her arrive was like the most annoying thing ever. Over the span of 10 years I saw the transformation, she started to get branded clothes, buy makeup and overall improve herself (she was still an ignoramus, and not good looking, and still no kitchen skills. They even had a maid to do all the cleaning, cooking, and overall house chores), she even got a degree but she was still subpar. She improved her life and I am pretty sure she will leave him soon, those people are often after pensions, and while they wait they try to take as much as they can. I value this experience since I got to see and experience the “modus operandi” of a gold digger 1st hand. After 10 years of experiencing that I hope I make better choices than my father.

eldred2 · 2024-04-26T22:36:30+00:00

That's because it's all projection.

FriendlyFennel8511 · 2024-04-27T14:08:20+00:00

I would never date someone who is overweight, I’m entitled to my standards and know what I look for in a Women.

khanivorus_rex · 2024-04-25T19:57:39+00:00

The problem is the men that they know in their lives or at least selectively in their views isnt the common man.

Unique-Twist-8911 · 2024-04-27T08:50:51+00:00

Men's only universal beauty standard is don't be obese

Everything else is largely set up by women

NefariousnessDue4801 · 2024-04-27T00:55:30+00:00

women are pieces of shit who don't appreciate a single thing about men because they hate us for being superior

BetSuspicious6989 · 2024-04-30T01:32:22+00:00

Women have been the same since the beginning of time. It’s just more apparent in the culture we live in today. Let me give you guys some advice here. Women will never love you the way you want to be loved. It’s not in their nature. It’s evolutionary psychology. They love you for what you can do for them not for who you are. It’s never been different. You have to accept this. Unconditional love comes from a dog. We all got brainwashed growing up. They will never love you for who you are. For a sexual species it makes sense. Find a group of best friends to hang out with and pay for sexual encounters if you must.

The upper echelon guys will always have women but even those guys get the women for what they have to offer not for who they are as a person. Just look at it. Guy gets injured girl leaves him. Guy loses job girl leaves him. Guy no longer famous girl leaves him. Guy gets cancelled girl leaves him. Now notice other examples where a woman should leave him. Cheating. Women will never leave you for cheating. Getting in trouble with the law that’s high profile arrest they won’t leave you. Dealing drugs she won’t leave you. No serious commitment she won’t leave you. (Until she has to cash in her chips if she’s smart enough to) It’s biology. Once you know them they are extremely predictable.

Weak-Equipment5530 · 2024-05-01T13:23:45+00:00

Imagine if

Imagine if the world offered up a smorgasboard of men to women, to gawk and oggle at to their hearts desire,

Imagine if women had their own preferences for which men they like to look at, categorized by their body type

Skater, beef cake, scrawny, chubby, athelete,

What if they could look at quite literally 10s of 1000s of men of any kind they wanted to of any variety, down to hair color, penis size, height, skin color, age, race, demeanor,

Literally anything, you name it and there was a market for it.

Imagine the most popular type was fresh and wide eyed 18-20 year old college men, tall and thin with perfectly shaped muscles, big enough to be manly but not too big that they'd be intimidating, with large penises and a tight ample set of asymmetrical balls to accentuate their smooth and hairles freshly waxed taint, all to grace their beautifully plump and muscular assess.

Imagine if wives spent long hours masturbating to videos of these men performing cunnilingus and analingus on women while tied down, spit on, and slapped.

Imagine if these videos depicted men having spontaneous multiple orgasms just from going down on women and letting women aggressively penetrate their anuses.

Imagine women ignored their husbands and denied them intimacy because they couldn't stop looking at huge penis porn.

Imagine they scrolled endlessly to watch young 18 year old athletic men prance around in speedos so women could stare at their exceptionally large penises bouncing around, as they practically drooled all over the screen

Imagine women patted each other on the back and laughed as they described the 22 year old grocery clerk scanning their groceries, and how badly they wished they could squeeze his tight little ass, all in front of their dear husbands.

Imagine women scoffed at their husband's every time they voiced how small it made them feel,

"I'm a woman, I can't pretend I don't have eyes! I just appreciate the male form!"

Imagine women told each other and their husbands that reciprocating oral was kinda icky, but that it was okay because men could orgasm from penetration anyways

But that they'd be down to watch another man do it to him!

Imagine that men tried to tell their wives how lonely and neglected they felt, and women simply said "Aren't you happy I'm not out there cheating on you with every Tom, Dick, and Harry? This is just fantasy, it's not real!"

Imagine women everywhere told each other that it was normal to spend this much time looking at naked men.

Imagine, when, men finally had enough of this that women got together in groups and spoke of how broken they were

How much pain they were in and how victimized they were by this unrelenting force that wanted them to fixate on beautiful irresistible men

How how the world had used their love of large penises against them!

Imagine women encouraged each other to celebrate the small victories, after all, they didn't jerk off to that cute grocery clerk again!

Imagine women encouraged each other to ignore their cruel, mean, nagging husbands after all how could men ever understand how hard it is to be a woman?

Weak-Equipment5530 · 2024-05-06T00:17:28+00:00

Women want an honest man above all. Unfortunately it nearly impossible to find a guy who's not a liar. We all know that men constantly lie to women. Their wives, gf. That's a big problem.

Extreme_Spread9636 · 2024-04-26T00:12:22+00:00

I disagree. Men were acceptive of average. Yes, everyone has their flaws yadayadayada, whether it is weight, body shape, etc. Saying that they are accepting is further from the truth. People are definitely way more critical than ever. You just don't hear them talk about it, because it is not a good look to criticize someone like that. I'm talking strictly about long-term potential. When it comes to sex, sure, I agree.

tilldeathdoiparty · 2024-04-26T01:20:26+00:00

Everyone has a preference, not all men/women want a specific thing or feature.

Also

Everyone has a league/lane according to their status, sexual market place value.

Many won’t accept where their own league is. The ones out here complaining about it (on either side) are delusional about what league they are in and are expecting top tier results without putting in the effort.

If you are reading this and are getting angry for any reason, it’s not me or that I am lying, it’s you and your ability to take accountability for your situation. I’m not saying change your life or personality, but I am sure you could find 2 or 3 things you could do tomorrow that would make you a more desirable candidate to date but aren’t willing to admit it or take the action to make it happen.

This applies to anyone, anywhere, any sex/gender or religion, if you aren’t willing to do it, it won’t happen.

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