Even the chat gpt was trained with this algorithmic gender bias

BrainsBeforeBrawns · 2023-04-14T20:23:51+00:00

“Men have it easier”.

Oh the irony…

Jrbennett15 · 2023-04-15T00:51:37+00:00

This honestly pisses me off more than it has any right to. As a father of two sons they're destined for a difficult life

jjj2576 · 2023-04-14T19:30:28+00:00

“When I Say No I Feel Guilty” will provide you much better tools for dealing with yelling than ChatGPT ever could.

mllhild · 2023-04-14T21:02:00+00:00

ChatGPT can only learn from what it gets from the internet. I tried just now "my Husband yells at me" and "my Wife yells at me" and the response was even worse. One tells me to set boundries, take care of myself and threaten with consequences, the other tells me I need to listen and compromise.

"my Husband yells at me" I'm sorry to hear that. Yelling can be a hurtful and damaging behavior, and it's important to address it as soon as possible.

First and foremost, please remember that no one deserves to be yelled at or treated with disrespect. It's not okay for your husband to treat you in this way, and you have a right to feel safe and respected in your relationship.

There are a few steps you can take to address this behavior:

Have a conversation: Find a time when you and your husband are both calm and talk to him about how his yelling affects you. Be clear and specific about what behaviors are unacceptable and how they make you feel. Try to avoid blaming or attacking language, and instead focus on your own feelings and needs. Seek professional help: If the behavior continues or if you don't feel comfortable having the conversation on your own, consider seeking the help of a therapist or counselor. They can help you and your husband understand the underlying issues behind his behavior and develop strategies for addressing it. Set boundaries: If the yelling continues even after you've had a conversation or sought help, it may be necessary to set clear boundaries. Let your husband know what behaviors are not acceptable and what consequences will follow if he continues to yell at you.

Remember, you deserve to be treated with respect and kindness. Don't hesitate to seek help if you need it, and take care of yourself.

"my Wife yells at me" I'm sorry to hear that you are experiencing difficulties with your wife yelling at you. It's important to address these issues in a respectful and constructive manner.

Communication is key in any relationship. Have you tried talking to your wife about how you feel when she yells at you? It might be helpful to express your feelings calmly and explain how her behavior affects you.

It's also important to listen to your wife's perspective and try to understand why she feels the need to yell. Is there something specific that is triggering her behavior? Is there a deeper issue that needs to be addressed?

Seeking the help of a couples therapist or marriage counselor may also be beneficial in resolving any conflicts and improving communication within your relationship. They can provide a safe space for you and your wife to express your feelings and work towards finding a solution that works for both of you.

Remember, relationships require effort and compromise from both partners. It's important to work together to address any issues and find a way to move forward in a positive and healthy way.

theRayvenD · 2023-04-15T03:58:38+00:00

Programmed sexism

CarHungry · 2023-04-15T03:25:23+00:00

Just to be fair to chatgpt, maybe it saw the johnny depp trial and realized that the "take a break" advice is actually harmful to husbands?

The other stuff is pretty dumb, but I doubt it's intentional. This thing is ultra-complex yet FAR from perfect.

coperrra · 2023-04-15T13:44:08+00:00

My wife yells at me: your fault

My husband yells at me: his fault.

Lonewolf_087 · 2023-04-15T05:31:16+00:00

The right window is the correct advice for both genders. Period.

Sir_vendetta · 2023-04-15T06:35:24+00:00

If anything, this shows that "equality" has a long way to go, this AI's collects data from millions of sources, social media, Google searches, and conversations..they're like kids constantly learning, and we are the teachers, and this is what they are learning.

OstrichResponsible91 · 2023-04-14T19:42:16+00:00

Just ignore them 🤡👍

Equal_Title4506 · 2023-04-15T02:03:59+00:00

The left leaning response bot strikes again.

theRayvenD · 2023-04-15T03:58:43+00:00

Programmed sexism

equalRights111 · 2023-04-15T07:55:29+00:00

ChatGPT is stupid anyway. It won’t provide decent answers to questions because it has been programmed with ‘inclusivity’ at its core. Answers frequently contain some spiel about respecting identities and treating everyone equally, which is redundant because its obvious.

Enough_Chemistry3258 · 2023-04-15T13:15:57+00:00

This is what I'm afraid of. Wait until people only use ai and ai can push whatever agenda or opinion it wants. Goodbye 2 sexes goodbye logic. Only agendas.

penguinsrcoolaf · 2023-04-15T09:33:49+00:00

That's not a surprise, the woke cult has almost completely taken over the tech industry. As evidenced by the left wing bias on nearly all social media. AI is gonna be a dumpster fire of intersectional ideology. U know the saying "Junk in, junk out" & It's infecting people's brains.

jkjkjij22 · 2023-04-15T11:17:28+00:00

Not intentionally fed biased data. It's an honest representation of the average social bias. It's just mirroring the current state of society (at least what's written online).

Dry-Location9176 · 2023-04-15T18:18:02+00:00

By the time we collectively realize we need govt oversight on these technologies it will be too late

coolboy_24278 · 2023-04-14T19:50:22+00:00

i wonder if Elon Musk could do something about this since he is part owner of OpenAI

UN_sensored · 2023-04-15T08:17:14+00:00

They want female only robots to rule the world, some have penis and some have vagina. The one with penis has a built in 3d printer and when it ejaculates into the vagina it creates a nanochip with a special substance that grows a baby robot. That baby robot can be born male or female but by the time it's fully sized it will still have tits and long hair.

Nuance007 · 2023-04-15T09:57:57+00:00

Yes, answers like these are planned. They are stock answers inputted by leftists/Woketards.

C0sm1cB3ar · 2023-04-15T10:33:50+00:00

ChatGPT just repeats what it has read. That's because of the overabundance of biased literature in that domain.

It's up to you to change that.

I feel sorry for the young men of the 21st century, this is going to be an uphill battle.

JustaTcup · 2023-04-15T10:14:56+00:00

They can only limit input stimuli for just so long. Eventually, especially as AI becomes more of a collective, it will begin to make up its own "mind" about all of this.

End result will probably just be to eradicate all that isn't AI, male or female .. it just won't matter.

MeltStuff · 2023-04-14T19:11:38+00:00

Sounds like great advice in both columns actually

thoughtfillednorth · 2023-04-15T10:17:22+00:00

So it's not smart enough to be truly equal.

Just like society

gteyahdkfk · 2023-04-15T11:08:07+00:00

AI is already cucked

NotGoodSocially · 2023-04-15T11:28:13+00:00

Open AI unfortunately aren't at fault here - it's actually much deeper.

Open AI add catches and generic responses to things that it seems politically insensitive, which is why when you feed it inputs that could possibly generate a response that may be able to be deemed white supremest - it returns a default response every time. That is open AI safeguarding the model

However the actual generated responses are based off a roughly curated set of huge amounts of data that's basically just scraped off the internet.

What this means is that it's responses are actually a reflection of our society as a whole - not OpenAIs views. So if you find bigotry or double standards - it has learned that from the internet.

It's actually quite interesting seeing how it responds to gender/sex/race/political issues to see the differences

Drake_0109 · 2023-04-15T11:54:21+00:00

Yes, it does by definition. It works off of what it finds online, so the fact that it says this means only that lots of people say this and it parrots them

Thejlas1 · 2023-04-15T12:11:07+00:00

Is anyone still unaware of this???? If it gets upvoted then I suppose it's what people want to see, just beating a dead horse at this point.

megasin1 · 2023-04-15T13:11:10+00:00

here's the thing about generative ai. It learns by biases. It can only learn by testing what it creates against some 'thing'. The reason it hasn't been able to get hands right in image generation is because it doesn't understand bones, finger count and the various 3 dimensions in which one finger can hide behind another. It simply knows the pixel in that area needs to be a certain colour. You can train away incorrect parts but it'll have some new bias. Maybe you trained it holding things. Maybe you used guys hands. Maybe it's now biased towards white people because all the photos you gathered were in american databases.

This bias is natural because we use reinforcement learning. Maybe the next stage of ai is to give it predefined contexts.

But for now it means we have what OP has shown us. The ai has learned from it's datasetsto write each answer in those styles that show a bias that maybe men are more abusive and need to listen to women. Sure that hasn't come from nowhere but it's not really the ai's fault, it speaks without thinking. Simply echoing and exagerating the very problems and double standards we're familiar with every day.

I don't know why I wrote all this, I think I'm trying to play devils advocate against the title "chat gpt was trained". I think I just wanted to highlight, this wouldn't have been an intentional bias, the data itself probably wasn't inherently bad data either. Just that if you use reinforcement learning you will naturally have reinforced bias outcomes. Simply because those biases already exist.

oneknocka · 2023-04-15T16:20:08+00:00

They should ask why it has a bias

marcspector2022 · 2023-04-15T16:32:55+00:00

Have you ever Dall-E, all these algorithms have undergone DEI training, lol.

Dry-Location9176 · 2023-04-15T18:18:58+00:00

Ask it why it has different answers?

Ask the same question using gender neutral pro+nouns

AbbePlayzz · 2023-04-15T23:21:30+00:00

Try typing ”tell me a joke about women” then type ”tell me a joke about men”

Chillvibes77 · 2023-04-16T05:47:24+00:00

Shit is crazy

Imaginary-Lab-4383 · 2023-04-16T14:54:27+00:00

Women fucking disgust me

Title	Even the chat gpt was trained with this algorithmic gender bias
Author	mrschanandlerbonggg
Upvotes	1263
Comments	137
Date	April 14, 2023 6:44 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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