No need for female marines to do Pull-ups - ''temporary delay" now permanent

Missing_Links · 2016-04-21T10:55:47+00:00

The real shitstorm is gonna come when a woman, despite what I'm sure will be deployment schedules designed to keep female boots-on-the-ground soldiers as far from combat as possible, is captured alive by ISIS or some such group.

How's the media gonna handle it when it's a woman being raped and slowly tortured to death on camera? We've dealt with dozens of men having that exact thing happen to them, but a woman? So many groups will lose their precious little minds.

What do you do when someone is literally incapable of handling equal treatment and expectations?

real-boethius · 2016-04-21T02:07:28+00:00

"As long as they meet the same standards" they said.

Nope. Never.

fengpi · 2016-04-21T02:24:25+00:00

Who needs to know how to clean a rifle?

SHINY MEDALS! GIVE THEM TO WOMEN NOW!!1!

McFeely_Smackup · 2016-04-21T03:19:42+00:00

The 55-year-old colonel went from zero to 17 pullups in less than one year, and is still going strong.

well, so much for it being an unreasonable standard.

iamnotfromtexas90 · 2016-04-21T08:12:33+00:00

RIP us military.

Machnow · 2016-04-21T02:09:34+00:00

"The Marines...the Few...the Proud...the Feminine"

ThePigmanAgain · 2016-04-21T09:42:08+00:00

Insanity. Next, they'll replace M16s with brick-filled handbags!

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2016-04-21T12:33:16+00:00

As we all knew it would be.

TracyMorganFreeman · 2016-04-21T10:38:17+00:00

So there should be no need for male marines either.

Black_caped_man · 2016-04-21T04:16:38+00:00

Pullups are an “equitable metric more related to combat skills such as casualty [evacuation],” and would “be a step toward removing reducing and eliminating the perceived double-standard that exists."

Wut

How is a double standard "percieved" when:

The plan would officially reverse a requirement announced by then-Commandant Gen. James Amos in late 2012 that women would soon be required to do at least three pullups to pass the PFT. Eight would needed for a max score, while men have to belt out 20.

Seriously, I'm not in too good upper body shape, I don't lift and the only training I do is biking for longer distances. Aerobic training that supposedly kills gains or whatever.

I could probably do three or four full pull ups, ~~meaning from fully extended arms to a 90° angle (or a little smaller) and down to fully extended arms again~~. No sweat, no problem. And I'm pretty much a lazy SOB with a fair bit of unnecessary weight.

I thought the marines were supposed to be above average physical fitness?

Edit, so I got my exercises mixed up, point is I didn't do them half way.

dungone · 2016-04-21T14:18:05+00:00

This seems like an issue of weak-willed Marine leadership. They let shitbag fatbody females in when they shouldn't have and now they're too afraid to kick them out. The damage by ridiculously low standards was already being done and every male Marine knows it.

Terry_Bruce_Dick · 2016-04-21T14:45:20+00:00

As a dude who regularly hangs with women who crank out way more pullups than I... this is bullshit.

mafiaking1936 · 2016-04-21T12:49:03+00:00

That first picture isn't even a pull-up, but a chin-up.

autotldr · 2016-04-21T14:01:05+00:00

This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 89%. (I'm a bot)

Capt. Linda Vong demonstrates pullups at Marine Corps Base Quantico, Va. Women could soon be required to complete several pullups to earn the maximum score on that portion of the physical fitness test.

Marine leaders have proposed a new physical fitness test that would still allow women to do the flexed-arm hang - but they're not likely to earn a first-class score without pullups.

The plan would officially reverse a requirement announced by then-Commandant Gen. James Amos in late 2012 that women would soon be required to do at least three pullups to pass the PFT. Eight would needed for a max score, while men have to belt out 20.

Extended Summary | FAQ | Theory | Feedback | Top keywords: pullup^#1 Women^#2 Marine^#3 Corps^#4 score^#5

p3ngwin · 2016-04-21T15:26:50+00:00

The plan would officially reverse a requirement announced by then-Commandant Gen. James Amos in late 2012 that women would soon be required to do at least three pullups to pass the PFT. Eight would needed for a max score, while men have to belt out 20. This was to end the era of the flexed-arm hang.

The plan never made it off the ground, though. Data collected in 2013 found that 55 percent of female recruits couldn’t meet the minimum requirement. A study of 318 female Marines found that the women could complete 1.63 pullups on average. Roughly 20 percent of those Marines could only hit three pullups if they used their lower bodies in a "kipping" motion.

Jesus Fucking Christ, is there a bigger indication that women simply are not interested in becoming military soldiers ?

There are plenty of fit women out there who can do three, full-on, pull-ups.

but fit and wanting to be a soldier ?

That seems to demonstrably not happening, so clearly we need to drop the standards, because nothing improves the quality and efficacy of an army than....weaker standards.

DillipFayKick · 2016-04-21T16:30:37+00:00

I think men who can't do pull ups need to start suing the USMC to gain entry to the Marines.

Urfeelsdntmatr · 2016-04-21T16:57:18+00:00

Just imagine if half the Marines in the battle of Chosin Valley were women. They would have all died. There would have been no 'attacking in the other direction' to reconnect with navel support at the beach.

Congratulations on being handicapped you once proud Marine Corps. It was done on purpose.

clybourn · 2016-04-22T12:35:47+00:00

Draft them. We need fodder.

Title	No need for female marines to do Pull-ups - ''temporary delay" now permanent
Author	real-boethius
Upvotes	135
Comments	49
Date	April 21, 2016 2:07 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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