What is "the patriarchy"?

63daddy · 2023-10-03T14:22:47+00:00

Patriarchy: “a system of society or government in which men hold the power and women are largely excluded from it.”

Obviously western countries are not patriarchies. There is no public office in the U.S. that excludes women. Not only do women have equal voting rights, but there are more female voters. The feminist lobby is far stronger than the men’s rights and has won many laws advantaging women over men.

gre2704 · 2023-10-03T17:02:53+00:00

Patriarchy is whatever they need to hit you over the head with to make you shut up.

That's why they don't want to define it rigidly because then it would be less universally applicable and it would be debunkable.

Mission_Paramount · 2023-10-03T15:21:05+00:00

It's the hidden privilege I'm told I have that makes my life easier. Yet in all my time I've never seen it.

randomusername1934 · 2023-10-03T15:50:26+00:00

Just substitute every instance of the word 'patriarchy' you hear/read for something along the lines of 'THE ILLUMINATI!' or 'EVIL PSYCHIC SPACE SQUIRRELS FROM THE MIRROR UNIVERSE!!' and you'll put the statement or comment in its correct context.

ElisaSKy · 2023-10-03T17:43:25+00:00

"It's not prioritizing men's health and wellbeing over women's. And it's not valuing men's lives more than women's lives. Because if it was, those things would actually happen."

Actually, it is exactly, 100% that. Speaking as a former feminist whom jumped ship when the overwhelming evidence that it doesn't actually happen actually made it to my eyes (funnily enough, when I found the first piece of evidence for what actually happened, another feminist told me "don't listen to these crazy MRAs", and having been given somewhere to look, I looked and lo and behold, this actually makes sense), I actually believed all that because it just happened to be the ONLY evidence I was presented with for... Phew, almost two decades.

It's easy to believe in bullshit if the evidence against it never makes it to you, and you only see evidence (even if it is falsified evidence) in favor of it.

ButWhatOfGlen · 2023-10-03T16:33:49+00:00

It's the dominant femist victimhood masturbatory fantasy.

Cotehill · 2023-10-03T18:28:59+00:00

Patriarchy definition - "Man bad, everything bad men fault, reeeeee"

The definition of misogyny is very much the same.

Spins13 · 2023-10-03T15:58:45+00:00

A good war sanctifies any cause. They want to win and justify themselves a posteriori by rewriting the books, History and the media stories.

Mhhh, have they already won ?

SouthernSeeker · 2023-10-03T22:39:12+00:00

In reality: the system of governance by high-ranking officials in Orthodox Christianity (all the sects of it I'm familiar with, at least).

In Feminist theory: a magical bogeyman that protects women from the horrors of personal accountability.

Vegetable_Ad1732 · 2023-10-04T02:16:32+00:00

I recently came to realize that "patriarchy" is what we used to call sexism. They just found a way to imply men are to blame for all sexism, that's all.

FacesTheWind · 2023-10-04T05:17:27+00:00

the patriarchy is the sense, instilled since childhood, that the grass is greener for men. Its a global conspiracy perpetrated by half of the population against the other half. Its the knowledge that you deserved more, better, and that someone must be to blame for you not getting it. Patriarchy is everywhere, and everyone, lead by no-one, has no membership, isnt an organization and yet all organizations (except feminist ones) serve it. The greatest achievement of patriarchy was when it convinced the non-feminists that it didn't exist. Luckily we now have a new movement, the chosen ones who know "The Truth" and they shall inherit the world after saving it from the blind slaves of "The Patriarchy"

... or something like that...

Main-Tiger8593 · 2023-10-04T07:35:53+00:00

by feminist definition it is a social construct mainly upheld by traditional conservatives by paternalizing womens sexuality and male disposability to protect women "put them on a pedestal" at all cost...

it gets presented and interpreted at will to avoid questioning details but you can try to ask feminists at which point patriarchy would be gone with real life examples...

Codename-18 · 2023-10-03T21:46:23+00:00

It's whatever the fuck the want it to mean in the moment in order to win arguments without having any rationale

BEEZY086 · 2023-10-03T23:07:30+00:00

Ask a million feminsts what the definition of a patriarchy is, and you won't get the same answer twice.

NeoNotNeo · 2023-10-04T03:43:55+00:00

It goes by another name.

Excuse-riarchy

FacesTheWind · 2023-10-04T05:35:24+00:00

its just like "capitalism"
someone who wants followers creating a boogeyman out of the results of evolution.
just as "capitalism" was invented as an epithet to bemoan the imperfect world that results from property rights, "patriarchy" is an epithet to bemoan the imperfect world that results from being mammals.
very useful for fostering resentment, which is useful if you want to manipulate people.

reddit_pleb42069 · 2023-10-03T19:40:45+00:00

Patriarchy has a good definition. Its "neopatriarchy" or whatever you wanna call it thats something pretty undefinable.

ArmchairDesease · 2023-10-04T16:30:44+00:00

I'm not a feminist and I don't use the term "Patriarchy". But, as a man, it's hard to understand the extent to which the world may look male-centric to a woman. Try to put yourself in this hypotetical scenario:

You are born as a man.

Your first name is chosen by both your parents. But your family name is automatically your mothers'.

You go through childhood and learn about the world. You discover that almost all the great humans who ever lived were women. Books are full of queens, empresses, female artists, inventors and scientists. Power is typically transmitted to the first-born daughter. The few men here and there are treated as a curiosity.

Then you look at the world around you and notice that the majority of rich and powerful people are women. Politicians, CEOs, lawmakers, intellectuals, sports champions...

If you live in a country with a latin language, you also notice that neutral words are declined as feminine.

Finally you look at religion, and discover that God, the creator of the universe itself, is also a woman. So are all the prophets. And of course, so is her Daughter.

How would you define the sysem in this scenario? I know I would be very tempted to call it a Matriarchy.

Back to our world, it looks like men are largely considered the default human beings, while women are largely considered secondary characters.

That said, to me characterizing the system as a Patriarchy isn't helpful at all. Because (silly as it sounds) we should consider the purpose of life not representation, but happiness. And no one has ever proven that being considered the default human being brings more happiness than being considered a secondary character. I'd argue the opposite is more likely true.Because for each man who gets the longest stick (kings and CEOs), there are 100.000 who get the shortest sticks (slaves, hard laborers, drafted soldiers).

throwawaypatriots · 2023-10-04T23:58:41+00:00

It's the boogeyman that feminists like to blame for all of their shortcomings and failures instead of taking accountability for themselves, and as a get out of jail card when their bullshit is exposed.

DoctorNaughty69 · 2023-10-07T12:21:01+00:00

It's a fictional group of boogeymen that women thinking are sitting in this massive conference room at the top of some monolithic building with dark clouds surrounding it who spend their days coming up with ways to oppress and objectify women.

Taeganger · 2023-10-03T22:47:00+00:00

Sorry I am new here. How do women control more money under capitalism?

ThePureFool · 2023-10-03T14:29:51+00:00

Is it a Judeo-Christian (Islam) Thing?

That I believe is a rather patriarchal setup, and many of the young ladies complaining do appear connected to one of those particular religions.

Acewithasmile · 2023-10-04T03:17:41+00:00

As a feminist “The Patriarchy” is in my opinion mostly from feudalism, i.e Patriarch of a realm, where feudal lords would rule and make all the decisions like sending men off to war (their main job) and women where for making babies, although in the lower class they both worked (her at his respective job). So I would say the pecking order would go ruling class man > ruling class woman > lower class man > lower class woman. So in my opinion the patriarchy negatively impacts men too also.

mrkpxx · 2023-10-04T15:42:38+00:00

Patriarchy is men's response to women's flight into sub-responsibility.

Title	What is "the patriarchy"?
Author	dependency_injector
Upvotes	106
Comments	57
Date	October 3, 2023 1:22 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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