If we want to start any discussion then first we need some basic things people can agree upon. What is right and wrong or what is immoral or moral.

Right wing men typically aren't suitable for any issues like male loneliness epidemic or gender based discrimination. First, They don't believe in the rights of gay, ethnic minorities and trans community which is really important. Second, they believe that you need to pull yourself up by bootstrap bs. The more concerning fact is that the mainstream right wing is getting pulled towards the far right in US as of now.

Some young republicans were seen using racist remarks against black people. The leading figure of current far right is Nick fuentes and you guys already know the poison he spew against every community which isn't white. He's seen as replacement of charlie kirk by many.

For example, let's talk about male loneliness epidemic or sexlessness among young men. This is essentially caused by outdated gender norms that's still imposed on men. The man has to be a provider and women need to be a nurturer and primary caregiver. On surface, it seems a good idea but in this economy it's really not. You have feminists screaming that women aren't slave of the patriarchy but same progressive women who subscrie to the idea of feminism and abolishing patriarchy won't marry a guy who doesn't earn or earns more than them.

They want selective patriarchy. Where they've benefits of benevolent sexism without getting the whole package that stems from patriarchy.

Men are lectured about toxic masculinity and how patriarchy is a culprit behind all the problems we face but when progressive men like us tell those mainstream progressives that women are the ones who always want men to approach, initiate dates, always pay and earn more than we're just being misogynist.

If we say that male loneliness and decline in romantic prospects are happening because of atomisation of society and unchecked hypergamy then we're fueling conspiracy theories. We all know the unlimited options women have and there struggles aren't remotely close to ours but the feminists will still emphasise that there is a lack of quality men.

If we talk about how women are just filtering out most men on the basis of immutable traits like height and race then you're being unreasonable and Andrew tate followed despite all the empirical studies supporting us. Most women are shrinking their dating pool with superficial things and wonder why they're having bad experience.

They frame male loneliness as a revenge against men for not treating them poorly and not doing the "bare minimum". Hmm, i wonder who's doing the bare minimum after you refuse to date an average man as an average woman. The guy who has never dated anyone in life is lonely because other men who have plenty of options don't put efforts for superficial women?