You guys are asking the wrong question about "Stacy's" and why sluts are not desirable.

Littleknownfacts · 2017-01-13T22:00:24+00:00

If it came out that Stacy was a virgin, desirable men who didn't look at her before would now come running.

Stacy already has more men running after her than she could ever possibly have sex with. Even if she slept with a different guy every day she wouldn't know a lonely night until well past the wall. And yes, some guys would still be willing to LTR her (though those men would be of much lower quality). Why the hell does Stacy need or care about men who care about her virginity?

Edit: Just changed up some words.

SkinnySweaty · 2017-01-14T01:04:47+00:00

frat guys get looked down upon when they have a long term girlfriend and fall out of the N-count race.

Why are frat guys the baseline for anything in these discussions? I mean seriously, is that all RP dreams about, being the ultra cool pussy slayer in the cool kids frat?

This is written by a supposedly TRP endorsed poster. Bunch of shallow motherfuckers over there if frat life is the ideal.

If you have nothing going for you as a man, but for some reason you have a girlfriend then women will be taking you seriously and checking you out as a result.

You're putting waaaaay too much weight on this one variable in the equation. The fact that you had sex or have a GF is really not that impressive. To anyone.

wtknight · 2017-01-13T23:11:46+00:00

If it came out that Chad was secretly a virgin, it'd ruin him.

To women? Maybe if he were a virgin it would. But if it came out that Chad was a guy with a low n-count who had only had sex with a couple of long-term girlfriends in the past, women would come running too, much more so than if they knew Chad was a male slut, because they would know he is a virtuous, faithful guy. The only difference here is the virgin thing, which is explained by the fact that most women tend to prefer a man who is slightly more experienced than them since they often take the submissive role in bed.

whyyoureadmyusername · 2017-01-13T22:10:48+00:00

If it came out that Stacy was a virgin, desirable men who didn't look at her before would now come running.

This is red pill fantasy. The vast majority of studs and 'Chads' I know could not give less of a damn about a girl's sexual history. They fuck whichever girl gives them a boner and as far as I can tell they end up in relationships with the same kind of women they were having casual sex with.

People who want low n-count women are low n-count men, like myself. And no one who has actually had sex with a virgin is getting in line to do it again.

ThrowawayNaked79 · 2017-01-13T22:57:51+00:00

"Chad would lose social capital and sexual options if he stopped sleeping with women; frat guys get looked down upon when they have a long term girlfriend and fall out of the N-count race."

You've got to be kidding, right? I might be willing to concede I will give a guy who has an unusually hot long-term girlfriend a second glance-- that does increase his appeal in my book. He must have desirable characteristics to keep such an attractive woman content.

But frat guys who "fall out of the n-count race" and get a girlfriend are only looked down on by other frat guys, not women. Women are likely to find him more desirable, particularly if that girlfriend is high-value.

dragoness_leclerq · 2017-01-13T23:09:43+00:00

Errrrr idk where yall come from (prolly India or China lol) but no high value chad comes running after women because they find out shes a virgin. Even in my patriarchal Italian ancestry family the males will be like 'hey, that's good, she's a virgin' not 'omg shes a virgin me must have now!' It's something positive sure, but not make or break.

Most guys would be okay with a low to average n count, and every gal can lie about her n count so it doesnt matter

ContrarianZ · 2017-01-14T07:55:30+00:00

If it came out that Chad was secretly a virgin, it'd ruin him. If it came out that Stacy was a virgin, desirable men who didn't look at her before would now come running.

Chad is not at all going to be ruined by his exposed virginity unless he acts like a stereotypical virgin (at which point you might argue he is not really a Chad). Stacy probably would gain some ground from an exposed virginity, but it probably isn't going to change her predicament by very much.

starsgoround · 2017-01-14T09:07:35+00:00

What small-minded crap. Are these supposed to be "biotruths"?

Here, biotruths are simple. A man's test in life is mating. A woman's is mothering. Women want men who are successful with other women (as much or more romantically than sexually) because their children, if sharing in that trait, are more likely to have more children with more resources/status/opportunities. Simple. Sensible. Men want a woman with whom paternity is assured. Obviously.

This doesn't make Stacy inherently undesirable as a wife or mother (and certainly not as a lover) unless you've been socialized by a bunch of bronze age stupidity. It depends completely on the system of paternity and its accumulated heuristics. Ours - or, rather, yours - is out of date because we (you) have no idea how to handle contraception coming down off our (your) chattel kick.

N-count fetishists are the worst. There may be some weak correlation between high n-counts and infidelity. Any causation can only be internalized placebo bullshit.

In real life, for many of us the best partners we've had are, incidentally - and it is incidental, women with high n-counts, a meaningless number in a real relationship provided you don't have the emotional maturity of, well, a redpiller.

quicklogaccount · 2017-01-14T14:03:41+00:00

At RP we need to get a good grasp on precisely what makes women with high n-count worst before we come around and go around defending it man.
Most guys simply "feel" they are and find validation for it in TRP, but there is a lack of rational understanding. But taking something without rational understanding makes a weakness, and we, above all, have the habit of purging them out, don't we?

I've shared a few too many times my view. It's an objective population versus individual issue.
The set "high n-count women" has a bigger number of alpha widows, women with impaired bonding capacity, cuckers and cheaters than others. I'll resist the temptation of saying why.
It comes that on average this SET of women has a lot more nagging whining annoying and self entitled bitches, which is the same as saying this set has lot more remarkably poor partners. You do well not committing to them.

But when you look to an individual, the n-count, or the even issues that so often stem from it (alpha widow, impaired bonding capacity, etc...) doesn't effect its attractiveness. Come on, Stacy can be hot, or might not be hot but might be such a little hassle to fuck you'll still see her some times. I'm yet to have sex shitty enough I'd rather have skipped it.
The important thing there is whether she is a shitty partner, or not. What makes her a shitty partner really doesn't matter.

Transmigratory · 2017-01-15T00:06:24+00:00

She may not get desirable men with options, the lower ends would still like her if she slept with 7k men.

Venicedreaming · 2017-01-14T00:27:46+00:00

The whole n-count impression is misrepresented imo. Both men and women who have high partner counts usually lose their ability to properly bond with their long term partners. Both tend to make terrible mates after a certain n-count. Women, more often than men, are more affected in a pump and dump event. With enough encounters where a woman is only valued for sex and nothing more, she will start forming baggage and insecurity. So this is where TRP generalized n count theory comes in. But both genders are affected negatively if they have too many partners in reality, women more so than men

Title	You guys are asking the wrong question about "Stacy's" and why sluts are not desirable.
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Date	January 13, 2017 9:48 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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