F (25) another rant

MoreThanPurple · 2025-12-15T17:56:09+00:00

We don’t allow feminism here. If you would like to remove the references to feminism and update this as a discussion post, I will reapprove but please familiarize yourself with the goals of red pill women as they are not feminist in nature.

dressedlikeadaydream · 2025-12-15T16:22:45+00:00

Ah yes the myth of "sexual liberation" in which progressivism sold women "freedom" but what we got instead was disposability

Wife_and_Mama · 2025-12-15T17:24:45+00:00

Being an OnlyFans model is not automatically empowerment. For many, it seems to be about validation and insecurity, not freedom.

Being an OnlyFans model is never about empowerment. It's always about validation and insecurity, often coupled with unrealistic expectations of where it will go for the performer. Teenage girls think they can make six figures doing this, only to ruin many of their prospects for a career, husband, even certain social circles. It's not empowering. It's destructive and predatory, almost exclusively.

This is not what feminism was originally about.

It is now. There's a reason there's a "no feminism" rule on this sub. The term is meaningless today. You could argue for pages with another user only to find out you both have degrees in feminist intersectionality from the same college. It means what the user wants it to mean.

And to be clear, choosing sex work is a personal choice.

No. Sex work is almost never a personal choice. Women are forced into it, either by circumstances or literally through trafficking. It's both reprehensible and indefensible and claiming otherwise is just harming the women we claim to champion. Read the accounts of porn stars and sex workers. See what they say about the life. It's irrevocably harmful for every one of them. The idea of the empowered sex worker who chooses that path exists in... Firefly. That's it.

Edited to Clarify: I do not consider OnlyFans to be sex work. No sex is happening. The women involved can get out at any time. There's no risk of pregnancy, disease, or abuse. The majority of women on OnlyFans choose to be there.

ArkNemesis00 · 2025-12-15T17:49:46+00:00

Fun fact: the Catholic Pope at the time of the birth control pill (the one who wrote Humanae Vitae summarizing the Church's stance on artificial birth control) condemned it, with one of the main reasons being that he was concerned society would move in a direction of increasingly objectifying and disrespecting women.

matcha_cream_puff · 2025-12-15T16:42:37+00:00

I'm not too sure if this post actually fits the rules, but I will respond anyway since it's a topic I have always been very interested in.

I want to talk about our dopamine driven culture, and women’s need for validation today. The pressure to show our bodies, the need to feel desired, and the lengths some women go to for attention. Things like crossing boundaries, seeking validation from unavailable men, or using sexuality as a shortcut to feeling valued.

Women seeking validation, desire, or attention isn’t a new moral failing created by social media. I think almost all of us would agree that, as women, we were taught from a young age that being wanted is the primary route to security and status. In the novel The House of Mirth, the female protagonist engages in every single behavior you mentioned, and the novel was written in 1905 and set in the 1800s. We just have a different manifestation of it now.

Being an OnlyFans model is not automatically empowerment. For many, it seems to be about validation and insecurity, not freedom. This is not what feminism was originally about

Feminism fought against women being reduced to their bodies, but importantly, it also fought for economic independence and the right to define one’s own life as a woman. Many women today engage in sex work not because they misunderstand feminism, but because our society literally rewards it with money. I don't think it's a failure of individual depth or integrity as much as it's a reflection of what the market values. Amouranth makes like 2 million dollars a month as a streamer/OnlyFans girl, but she started off being a Disney Princess for children's birthday parties. I don't think she would have made that career move if the pay for those two roles were on par with each other.

From an RPW point of view, we do not believe in pursuing sex work and this type of behavior because we think it will not make us happy, even if it paid 2 million dollars a month. Essentially, we have made a value judgement that being in a loving LTR with someone we respect and cherish leads to a happier life, not a moral judgement. (I'm sure some RPW believe it to be immoral, but as far as I understand, that's not necessarily a part of RPW theory itself).

And to be clear, choosing sex work is a personal choice. My point is not to judge individuals, but to question how these choices are framed as empowerment.

Since you are talking about feminism, I will mention that feminists have long pointed out that choices made under constraints like financial pressure and beauty standards aren’t the same as free choice (hence why people dislike "choice feminism"). I don't think any serious feminists would call a woman who is desperate for cash and engages in sex work online to make money "empowered", or a girl who is lacking love in her personal life and finds it in strangers online "empowered".

And honestly, one last thought. Isn’t it cooler to be the woman with depth, integrity, and a strong sense of self, the one who cannot be easily accessed or consumed. Rather than being known only for being desired by everyone? How doe's that show real value?

Ranking women by some sort of moral hierarchy is an extremely slippery slope - by this logic, the women with the most value are the ones in Taliban controlled Afghanistan who must wear Burkas and are not allowed to speak or laugh in public.

Depth, integrity, and a strong sense of self aren’t proven by being inaccessible, hard to reach, or less sexually visible. And being desired doesn’t mean a woman lacks those things. Similarly, a lot of women at RPW are stay-at-home moms who do not engage with the job market, but that does not mean they are not intelligent or have less value than career-driven women.

A woman doesn’t gain value by being rare, elusive, or difficult to consume. She has value because she is a person with rights, needs, labor, and inner life, regardless of how many people desire her or how she chooses to express her sexuality. Her actions may impact her SMV or her value as a desirable partner for the type of relationship RPWs tend to want, but they do not and should not impact her value as a human being.

InevitableKiwi5776 · 2025-12-16T01:03:26+00:00

Maybe stop worrying so much about what others are doing.

No-Ad8127 · 2025-12-15T23:11:43+00:00

“Isn’t it cooler to be the woman with depth, integrity, and a strong sense of self, the one who cannot be easily accessed or consumed. Rather than being known only for being desired by everyone?”

That is all “well and good”, but I think you know “good and well” that society doesn’t reward good moral behavior. And unfortunately in every society in every era, it is the truth.

We’re simple creatures at the end of the day. A lot of us want acknowledgement and rewards from the people around us, and you can’t deny that the age old method has always been the most popular despite its risks and its penchant to create derision.

What you said is absolutely true in an ideal world, but unfortunately reality has different ideas.

Sparklingfairy_ · 2025-12-20T18:33:49+00:00

I love this post!

_Pumpkin_Muffin · 2025-12-15T17:42:30+00:00

Based on this, what would be your advice to us people on RPW?

Ok_Pomegranate7730 · 2025-12-15T22:29:11+00:00

I'm a bit confused about the choice of sub. It is very unlikely you will find here the woman you assign the question to, so we’re just discussing what others do and “how it should be”

People make their choices. It's not new to use bodis to gain money. Whatever they want to call it I really dont care

Family life is not for everyone, it's hardships sometimes, it's sacrifice. If some woman would be happy living like this, I would not vote to put her in handcuffs for this

It's the same for abortion for me. I dont care if u do it. I don't need a ban.

It's just sex work new form. We have a saying that it's tne oldest Job in the world. If will always be around, of course in era of internet if will evolve, but it's Same thing in a new wrapper

But I believe that every woman has a right to select her life. If it's easier life for her, she can do this. There are woman in very poor countries in abusive relationship they can't escape Probably in comparison to that it's emporewent. But in a kind of vengeance, self-destructive on own way

But in society where we have a choice to lead a regular life and have a family, that's choosing a harder path to live I think

AutoModerator · 2025-12-15T15:53:13+00:00

Title: F (25) another rant

Author Traditional-Sherbet2

Full text: Hi again. I’m writing another post because the feedback on my last one was surprisingly good. Thank you for that.

Before I start ranting a little, I want to be clear about my intentions. I am a girls’ girl, and this is about girl power, not criticism of women. This is meant for reflection, not judgment. An invitation, not a final answer.

My last post was mostly directed at the boys. This one is for the girls.

I want to talk about our dopamine driven culture, and women’s need for validation today. The pressure to show our bodies, the need to feel desired, and the lengths some women go to for attention. Things like crossing boundaries, seeking validation from unavailable men, or using sexuality as a shortcut to feeling valued.

Calling all of this empowerment seems dishonest to me.

Being an OnlyFans model is not automatically empowerment. For many, it seems to be about validation and insecurity, not freedom.

This is not what feminism was originally about. The women of the 70s fought to not be reduced to their bodies or sexual value. Somewhere along the way, that message seems to have been twisted.

Feminism should also allow women to be honest with each other. Not to shame, but to say when something looks self destructive instead of empowering.

And to be clear, choosing sex work is a personal choice. My point is not to judge individuals, but to question how these choices are framed as empowerment.

And honestly, one last thought. Isn’t it cooler to be the woman with depth, integrity, and a strong sense of self, the one who cannot be easily accessed or consumed. Rather than being known only for being desired by everyone? How doe's that show real value?

Also this is a critique of culture, not of survival.

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Antique_Mountain_263 · 2025-12-16T12:32:10+00:00

Sex work is not real work. OnlyFans is all about selling scared parts of yourself to men who are deep into the sin of lust. It doesn’t show value for either side to engage in that kind of behavior.

There is so incredibly much more in the world that they could pursue.. medicine, engineering, ballet, pastry cooking, creative writing, design, environmentalism, education… And on and on. They chose nothing productive and instead, the basest of human desires. Even if it’s a “hobby” it’s not a good one.

It’s a form of prostitution, clear as day. I hope I’m allowed to be that direct.

I’m an early 30s woman myself, work on my fitness and conventionally attractive for my age. I’m married with four kids. I have a very involved father and family and I would be shamed to death and forced to stop if I ever did anything remotely like OF.

SunRose42 · 2025-12-17T05:33:18+00:00

Yeah this is the problem with much of what gets called modern feminism. “Sexual liberation” just makes it easier for men to get laid. It doesn’t help women. I don’t know a single woman who sleeps around regularly who isn’t battling some sort of trauma (and more often than not, acquiring more of it in the process of sleeping around). It’s harmful and encourages us to dissociate sex from love.

I’m an outlier here in that I do identify as a feminist (mods please don’t ban me, not trying to argue or proselytize); I just think that word means something very different from how it’s typically used in liberal circles today. Just saying that in case you wanted to DM someone about it; I saw the note about your original post.

ok-firefighter2266 · 2025-12-18T00:00:01+00:00

Guys, what is the percentage of women who actually do sex work/only fans? Is this really common enough for it to be a big deal? Prostitution is the oldest profession. We can write all the think pieces and “hold [insert a group] accountable” all we want, it’ll always be a thing.

2025-12-21T19:09:19+00:00

I personally do not care about liberation. I'm married , I raise my kids. That's a perfect life to me. I also don't like showing off my body for any reason especially to intentionally profit off of it or have attention from other men. That's not my value. My value is at home where I am important. All women have different values though.

cubatista92 · 2025-12-15T16:13:14+00:00

From the point of view that there is not a pimp involved, it is empowerment.

If someone only ever saw their career as being in the sex industry, being allowed to practice it without becoming a pariah, it is empowerment.

If someone wanted to have a different trajectory in their professional life, and ended up in SW, and have come to accept it as their main source of income for as long as the industry will have them, then it is empowerment.

What is not cool, is people in the sex industry trying to convince inexperienced and immature people that it's easy money and they are missing out for not becoming a content creator.

Title	F (25) another rant
Author	Traditional-Sherbet2
Upvotes	21
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Date	December 15, 2025 3:53 PM UTC (7 months ago)
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