2XX: We all basically disagree with TRP. Well, sort of...

Baylien2 · 2014-12-20T04:58:13+00:00

It's obvious that most of those people have no idea what the fuck they're talking about. Don't date a TRPer? Well I guess I better put my TRP badge away when I'm on dates.

They don't seem to realize that the real world isn't the same as their little PC utopia that is reddit. TRP is a reflection of how the vast majority of successful men think.

Thelaterbloomerstory · 2014-12-20T04:42:35+00:00

Reward guys who interact with you with basic respect and honesty by returning that basic respect and honesty, whether you're interested or not.

Translation:

Reward handsome guys with a high sexual market value with basic respect and honestly by returning that basic respect and honesty, whether you're interested or whether you're interested but have a lot of other options.

You see, normal and ugly guys cannot be respectful, they're just creepy no matter what they do.

NightwingTRP · 2014-12-20T09:42:13+00:00

TRP is full of men with low social value. They wallow in a group delusion to shift the blame of their failure onto anything except their own various deficiencies.

My favourite comment so far. They genuinely believe TRP is like the complete opposite of what it really is.... to convince yourself of that, you've got to have one hell of a hamster or possibly an IQ below 70.

redpillexplainsit · 2014-12-20T05:02:23+00:00

stop fucking them

hahahaha. Men's version: what can do about manipulative sluts?

stop fucking them...oh wait we're attracted them them.

DoctorWelch · 2014-12-20T15:42:51+00:00

at the end of the day it just comes of as extremely pathetic and sad. I'm an attractive woman who is attracted to men who care about themselves. These are guys who go out and get hobbies that better themselves and meet women along the way, not guys whose hobby is hitting on women, and who care more about what other women think of them than what they think of themselves.

Oh, so what you mean to say is that your uninformed version of what TRP says is pathetic and sad, but what TRP actually says is totally on point? Okay, thanks for the clarification there.

Algermas · 2014-12-20T09:26:14+00:00

The hilarious part is that women themselves hold the keys to getting men to stop being TRP misogynists, they could do it in a week if they work together.

If supplicating BP behavior was what got attractive, young ( have to qualify that, no ladies we don't care what gets you going at 39, see the second comment "it would've worked on me when I was younger" aka when she was hottest ) girls wet there'd be forums dedicated to teaching Alpha male jockbros how to behave like timid deskjockeys, but there isn't such a forum because everyone knows the deskjockey doesn't moisten any panties.

R4F1 · 2014-12-20T05:02:37+00:00

So their answer is to reward guys who display non-RP traits and punish/avoid those who display TRP traits?.... The only reason people turn to TRP is precisely because those BP stuff doesn't work. If it did, we wouldn't need TRP and would still be getting laid either way. There's no lose-lose with TRP, because its amoral the least TRP does is prevent guys from being suckered by teaching them sexual theory and gender dynamics. If a guy can be BP and somehow it magically gets them ahead in life, then who are we to say stop it. All I see is hamstering from these crazy girls.

bm2l · 2014-12-20T12:52:33+00:00

Learn from the fisherman, not the fish. This is actually hilarious, its like a school of fish complaining about how fishing rods, bait, and nets are wrong and manipulative, and we should all just be using our hands like 'real men.' Denial of TRP is a shit test. Feminism is a shit test. They say this because theres nothing more disgusting to a woman than a beta pretending to be alpha. This ruins their world view of "fate" and "meant to be". She wants to be able to say that her sucking dick in the bathroom stall "just happend" but with TRP, some nerd carefully engineered the circumstances and manipulated her with DHVs, escalation, power talk, etc.

What they hate the most is the fact that it is cold, unaltered truth.

Hypothetical scenarios:

See a pretty girl at the club. Buy her drink after drink, hover around her, feed off her energy, compliment her and validate her.
Grab a girls hand, pull her to the dance floor, grind your dick into her ass. Never buy her shit, tell her shes lucky you found her cause she looked bored as shit.

These women want nothing more to convince every man that #1 is the right and only way to get a girl. They do this because they are weak and want power over us. In scenario #1 they get all the attention, validation of desirability, and they get to feel the power you feel when rejecting someone. Telling someone "you're not good enough for me" would boost anyones ego; and the more they get people to play by ther rules, the more power they have a potential of getting.

In which scenario do you see yourself eventually fucking the club girl doggy in the back of your car?

"Women giving men advice on women is like me writing a book 'The Third Trimester -- and What to Expect' - Bill Burr

Watermelon_Salesman · 2014-12-20T13:22:01+00:00

This comment, however, by user Handsome_Hunk, is surprisingly rational, balanced, and still being upvoted.

RPIreland · 2014-12-20T14:02:40+00:00

The thing I love the most about the most vocal of Red Pill criticizers (such as the ask reddit thread a few days ago) is that they always say something along the lines of "its terrible blah blah DON'T GO THERE".

Surely if its so bad you should encourage people to go here and see for themselves how bad it is?

token_stache · 2014-12-20T13:51:47+00:00

I've come to realize there are two reasons why people really hate TRP, which operate subconsciously.

The world needs suckers. Modern civilization depends on a large supply of beta suckers who aren't aware of what is in their actual self interest. Now TRP is small enough in real life, that they will still be enough suckers to keep the ball rolling.
Related to point 1, only alphas are supposed to reap the benefits of the betas. Women what alpha Da because people want their kids instinctually on the winning end. We pose a threat to that two. What if people who don't have that biological predilection start "gaming" the system by making themselves alpha. It takes away the women's guarantee of a genetic alpha kid while giving your genes a much higher chance of survival by combining with someone of a higher SMV.

[deleted] · 2014-12-20T10:41:02+00:00

Yes, there are some angry and embittered young men here who have had no success with women. They're called BP beta converts who are in the process of trying to change that and will do so eventually.

my-redpillthrowaway · 2014-12-20T12:23:59+00:00

haha the linked thread made my day. So basically there are 2 types of comments:

TRP is full of loser neckbeards. It doesn't work at all
After a certain point, they can't deny it works. So what do they come up with? It only works on shallow/insecure women.

And finally there's the infamous EMSK post. They couldn't deny that TRP works on the majority of women. How to deter people from it? Well, apparently it kills you from the inside. LOL.

RatherPlayChess · 2014-12-20T09:09:52+00:00

So why even say it?

When a person realizes their own ignorance, they'll seek out a teacher.

Only TIME can cure stupidity through education or death.

popthatpill · 2014-12-20T12:07:46+00:00

I'm convinced by now that, from women, denying RP is actually just a shit test: can you see through my denial? If not, you're obviously not alpha, because an alpha would, by definition, be able to see through it.

IVIaskerade · 2014-12-20T14:41:56+00:00

Remember, 99% of the people who criticise TRP haven't visited. Like so many things in life, they've heard about it somewhere else, immediately taken what they hear at face value without doing their own research, and gone "well that's awful!"

That, or they think TBP doesn't have to make up quotes (seriously, they always change the wording so the original intent is destroyted), or remove context, or ignore obvious sarcasm to make us sound bad.

vissil · 2014-12-20T13:28:28+00:00

TRP is full of men with low social value. They wallow in a group delusion to shift the blame of their failure onto anything except their own various deficiencies.

I don't understand. Even when I hated this place, it was clear that people here didn't blame outside circumstances. I just imagined a whole bunch of bro-bro dudes.

Throwaway_01__ · 2014-12-21T06:54:13+00:00

Kay, while you guys are angry and embittered men who post these stories circle-jerking about getting back at women, most of the stuff that you post here does have a point.

If you take all of the anger and bitterness out of it, you could make a subreddit called "dating and life for noobs" which would be extremely well received.

legauge · 2014-12-20T04:56:19+00:00

You'll want to expand in your opening post or it'll get deleted.

iluminatiNYC · 2014-12-20T21:50:14+00:00

This reminds me of the saying that the game is to be sold, not to be told. Women want to be seduced, and they really don't want to know how or why. Once you realize this, the fact that they hate the Red Pill, but love the behavior is congruent. Remember, women aren't just men with vaginas.

brotherjustincrowe · 2014-12-20T22:16:30+00:00

That entire thread reeks of a giant shit test/LMR.

getomc · 2014-12-21T16:14:28+00:00

That hamster wheel needs to be hooked up to some resistance.

cover20 · 2014-12-21T22:18:56+00:00

Why are they even discussing us? We are just a tiny fraction of a fraction of world population, there are much more interesting groups. And we are considered to be basement dwelling obese neckbeards who hate women.

cover20 · 2015-01-05T03:26:01+00:00

"Have sex ed/family health in schools teach the importance of respect in relationships, identifying signs of abuse, acceptance, and tolerance."

hooboy, my kids are in public school and the "health class" assault is quite strong. They have to take it for a quarter each year in middle school. And I think a lot of it is about this acceptance / tolerance stuff. It's fucking with the head of my 13 year old. Fortunately he will soon be done and I can work on straightening his head out and trying to cure his interest in "feminism".

And in all these health classes, where they talk about STD's, they NEVER ONCE mention that AIDS is incurable and horrible and much worse than the others, nor that it tends to spread by anal sex between gay men. That would probably hurt recruitment. But since I found out they didn't mention that, I make sure my boys know it.

cover20 · 2015-01-05T03:44:52+00:00

They don't sound all that negative on it. A guy comes on and explains it well (as I see it anyway) and ... they thank him!

I think this is new. Women are losing their hostility. They've lost interest in feminism, they are afraid of hitting the wall, they are more interested in knowing what the hell is going on.

Some are saying "don't fuck men who do this" but then others say "but it works, they do end up getting pussy". They are having a serious girl-talk about it.

CarrotTrees · 2014-12-21T01:30:12+00:00

Yeah post an I wanna get married thread and see what they say.

This made up for a shit day.

Gigem_longhorns · 2014-12-20T19:31:52+00:00

This thread actually made me want a TRPvs2XX debate subreddit.

It would need even mods from each group and each mod should only effect their side of the debate. Perhaps some flair to identify your side.

Probably should be started by a TRP veteran though.

Edit: also disable down voting. Down votes would skew perception of a comment.

Title	2XX: We all basically disagree with TRP. Well, sort of...
Author	satanic_hamster
Upvotes	41
Comments	111
Date	December 20, 2014 4:32 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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