Even Zac Efron gets blown out

heynow1236 · 2017-05-29T08:16:15+00:00

I don't understand where you get the idea that women never look at the camera when taking a picture with a crush/significant other. I think you're reading too deeply on that one.

redpillbanana · 2017-05-29T03:48:40+00:00

The quote from /u/Archwinger is spot on.

There is always going to be some percentage of girls out there who are just not into you; the best any man is able to do is improve his batting average with the general female population.

Let's say you're into Suzy next door but she's been giving you the cold shoulder. You lift, dress better, improve your grooming, work on your game and status, and become a much better man in general. The problem is that Suzy is just not into your type and thus will never be interested.

In the haze of your disappointment you might not have realized that you've improved yourself to the point that 2% more women are into you. Congratulations, you've just expanded your global dating pool by 70 million women.

This number may be a bit unrealistic since it is based on the world population, so let's focus on local women. Do you live in a city with a million people? 2% = 10,000 women. Only interested in the top 10% of women? That's still 1000 women. Not enough for you? Keep improving yourself and this population will grow. Cast a wider net to increase the population you draw from.

This is why oneitis is so limiting for a man and why /u/MattyAnon says: If your question is "there is this one girl", you're doing it wrong. It is akin to a baseball batter saying, "There is this one ball I want to hit..." This is also why you should "Fail fast, fail cheap, fail often" when it comes to dating; the time you spend with an uninterested woman is time being taken away from an interested woman.

RedPharaohRising · 2017-05-29T02:27:33+00:00

Look, I get your advice about pretending to not be ethnic to get laid. But if ethnic guys keep compromising their standards and allowing such behavior to be acceptable, the treatment continues. The second a girl says something like that to me my interest is dead. If you want a ton of lays, you can treat this as a shit rest, but if you're looking for anyone who's a prospect, this isn't a red flag, it's a black flag, grounds for instant dismissal.

cherrytreecharlie · 2017-05-29T04:08:43+00:00

Yea this was fucking stupid

adanrarian · 2017-05-29T07:56:52+00:00

I get not having what it takes to pull hot white girls and settling and all that but for the love of god, stop telling others what to go for. As an Indian guy, I have my options with ethnic women but I refuse to go for them. I have fucked some white women who were more on the ethnic side like Polish and Italian but WASPy white girls here are trash, fuck NY!

As a man I have way more respect for a guy who goes after the kinds of women he is attracted to and keeps on trying despite the countless rejections. I would love to see a brown guy who pulls hot blondes on the regular exist but until then, I will keep trying and trying and trying until I am the first one and have sex with a tanned brunette while I get there, even if a sky high SMV is what it takes.

OP you come off as the kind of ethnic guy that failed hard with hot white girls, settled for the kinds of women he is not really that into, and now wants all other ethnic men to follow in his garbage foot steps. I bet it would make you cry if you saw a brown guy get hot white girls because you yourself could never do it. It is guys like you and that faggot /u/needlesspickupline who gave guys like me insecurities in the first place and led to the creation of countless other race trolls on this fucking sub.

Why is it that failures and losers feel so inclined to tell others what to do?

Squats4urmom · 2017-05-29T04:19:42+00:00

Your commentary overall isn't off the mark. I agree with most points.

Also I would like to point out that this isn't Zac getting blown out. For all we know if he keeps plowing he might get it in. But he won't be her alpha, that is a bit apparent.

But also that chick he's in the video with might have one of any of the reasons that you quoted to not be interested in him on the promotions for baywatch.

But also they hung out a lot in an environment where Zac was probably pretty beta. Looking like the Rocks little brother on set and all, taking orders from crew and director.

So it's hard to say that "even Zac gets blown out" when a girl who got paid to be physical with him isn't fully receptive when there's social media and handlers pointing her in any 8 ways at once.

TaylorWolf · 2017-05-29T02:48:12+00:00

I think what you missed is that attractive guy is immensely confident in his game. Other guy has literally zero confidence (in his game at least). Sure looks are a factor in your mentality... but that's what it comes down to in the end.

If you are attractive AF with zero confidence in your game girls will sense something is off and avoid you like a serial killer.

madethewrongmistake · 2017-05-29T05:40:26+00:00

I keep on seeing these subtly whiny "ethnic guy" posts. If you go outside of your race, you get alpha rejects. That goes for everyone; get over it.

Think your asian GF is hot - old, fat and stupid to an asian alpha. Think your white GF is hot - trashy skank to a white alpha. Think your black GF is hot - black alphas think that bitch is fucking crazy. Think your south asian GF is hot - passed up for wanting to have her own career and no kids.

That said, if you like the rejects, you might also benefit from the way alpha rejects of a different race judge SMV.

FatStig · 2017-05-29T05:23:23+00:00

Zac efrin is a child. Women want men. The rest is cultural. Know what wins in every culture? Success. Looks matter, and honestly they are the easiest aspect of yourself to improve. But success and the confidence it brings trump everything. In fact faking the confidence is probably the easiest smv upgrade. But you have to believe it, the best liars believe their own bullshit.

All-DayErrDay · 2017-05-29T02:41:44+00:00

I see two completely different experiences with dating. Aldairion states how he doesn't get to experience dating the same way his friends do - most of whom have new dates every few weeks like its no big deal. He further states that its difficult for him even though he has a good job, an active lifestyle, hobbies and all that good stuff but none of that matters if you're inherently unattractive to the majority of women you're around. On the other hand, we have TrenAcetate who states he is tall, white, good looking and muscular - "I feel like I am living on easy mode compared to many other guys". He has been hired for every job he has applied for, gets approached by women and rarely gets rejected when he approaches. He has very average "game'' and often says stupid shit but it doesn't matter, they still want to bang him. You can browse through their profiles to get some pictures of them.

So the first guys hopeless because he's inherently unattractive? I looked up pictures of him, I didn't think you had to be that much better looking to get a gf.

That was a bit of a tangent but coming back to the point. So the two users represent the two ends of the dating spectrum - Guys who have it easy and guys who have a bit of trouble but wait - We all know a guy who is 6'4 blonde hair blue eyes literally looks like Hitler's wet dream but he still sucks with girls - One of my closest friends is like that - and we all know that one 5'6 scrawny guy who just pulls like crazy. So what's going on here?

You never really explained this contradiction.

skittles_man · 2017-05-29T10:23:49+00:00

lol.

If you look through both of those users post histories, you'll understand why /u/TrenAcetate pulls a lot of tail. Dude's ZFG game is on point. Dude fucks with hard drugs, juices, and lifts. If you read through /u/Aldairion's posts, you'll see a completely different story. His posts come off beta as fuck; self-deprecating, woe is me, non-assertive. He Posts AMAs about every little thing that's going on in his life. In every post it seems as if he's seeking validation. I could only imagine what he's like in real life.

Lemonhead89 · 2017-05-29T10:42:49+00:00

Her: Whatever you are trying here isn't going to work - I don't like Indian guys

She actually said this? What a fucking cunt. She couldn't even bring herself to at least try to be polite.

PhoenixVSPrime · 2017-05-29T08:55:10+00:00

This is an excellent post, you can literally see and read zac's beta body language and his beta comments to her. Even though he has a "perfect" body, she can see that he's put her on a pedestal and cannot reciprocate affection because she knows and he knows that she's above him.

This is just proof that you can look like an 8-10 but if your inner game is shite then you get rejected. Not only does he have fame but fame doesn't mean shit either once she's also famous.

PlebDestroyer · 2017-05-29T11:24:11+00:00

If you're from a big city, banging chicks in the midwest is too easy, basically a cheat code to getting laid.

Sometimes a 6 will blow you off while a 9 will fall in love with you.

Lived it. Save that quote.

letjustbagemntagem · 2017-05-29T07:45:36+00:00

I read Askmen (aka cucked sub with mods that delete every other thread) there and here and /u/Aldairion is a narrow faced whiner, manlet, and has nerdy hobbies to boot; guy even posted links of his instagram account (he is usually the shortest guys in the pics). Guy will make you tear your hair out, one of the most depressing people to ever read and he even dropped out of college at one point due to this depression.

At some point, you can't keep blaming race for everything. If a Zayn Malik or Zyzz lookalike was struggling to get action, then we could talk. Otherwise it is just raw SMV speaking, it's not Hitler crawling out of his grave because girls rather fuck a 6'4 muscular jock as opposed to a skinny fat brown manlet with a lower self-esteem than girls that get pumped and dumped at clubs.

Try to change your watering hole

Here is the reality, WASPy white girls with good looks are tough for everyone. I am white (despite accusations against me on this sub) and while I kill it with ethnic girls on dating apps, I rarely get much attention from hot white girls on there. Even in real life, I notice they tend to be more closed off in general and will readily reject a handsome white guy.

If you're short and facially unattractive, you better bring something to the table (wealth and/or status) no matter what your fucking race is. On top of that if you are a different race, then you need to make an effort to blend in.

I don't think guys should give up their pursuit of getting their types of women but understand the women you are trying to get, WASPy white girls are tough even for average white guys, as a minority you better bring something to the table if you want to get hot ones.

Before we start blaming race, at least make things equal. If a Zayn Malik lookalike is struggling, then we can blonde hair blue eyes is some magical advantage but the truth is, I have found that a handsome ethnic guy usually does about as good a handsome blonde guy (not as good as a handsome white guy with dark hair though).

Problem is you are comparing some ethnic manlet with nerdy hobbies and a self-esteem lower than a club slut that gets pumped and dumped to a 6'4 chad; not exactly the best way to make the race case.

grandaddychimp · 2017-05-29T05:32:38+00:00

What if you're taking a selfie together? Is she supposed to look at the guy instead of the camera?

2kute42 · 2017-05-29T13:04:50+00:00

Does anyone else hate these constant long ass posts. Just get your point across

intenz1ty · 2017-05-29T14:46:34+00:00

Looks matter way more than most people here are willing to accept. People here have this bluepill idea that they can "game" their way to levelling the playing field, or that their financial means somehow affects their physical attractiveness. Delusional bluepill garbage. The redpill is that looks are everything. The blackpill is that you can maximise your looks but you are at the mercy of your genetic parameters.

stemgang · 2017-05-29T16:26:25+00:00

That is a very cold bitch. Lost all attraction when I saw her speak.

augizzz999 · 2017-05-29T10:42:07+00:00

Manlets, when will they learn?

you_are_the_product · 2017-05-29T03:43:17+00:00

Why the hell don't women like Indian or other "ethnic" guys? Seems like an oddly racist way to be. As an average guy I guess I don't get it. How fucking offensive to just come out and say "I don't like indian guys" that's just shitty.

circlhat · 2017-05-29T02:18:32+00:00

So stop being too hard on yourselves. Work on your SMV, enjoy life and be happy. Stop obsessing about gender wars and women - all that will do is cause you to fall into a deep spiralling state of depression and loneliness which will just make matters worse.

Blue pill advice, looks don't matter as much as you think, the difference for me was just game, and that was because I focused on women specifically, learn what they really wanted.

It seems the only advice men can get is work hard, life, and magically you will do well with women. It's like saying if you want to learn guitar work on yourself and be happy and stop obsessing over the guitar in reality if you want to learn something you need to study , practice.

Get your looks in order first then worry about everything else. Max out your looks as much as you can gym, grooming, hairstyle and dressing sense.

This will put you in a endless cycle of self hatred of never being good enough, I had women sleep with me once I learn game without being shaved, holes in my cloths, hair not comb, but before I had game, I was spending money on creams, hair styles, suits, pants, expensive name brand cloths and never got laid.

As for /u/TrenAcetate, remember that is a very powerful steriod, which will make you look good, but honestly is this what we are promoting here

cashmoney_x · 2017-05-29T13:10:30+00:00

Some of those photos break one "rule" while affirming another.

telecowboy · 2017-05-29T14:29:03+00:00

Great post. The visual cues you supplied with the Zac Effron video and the play by play interpretations of them were priceless. Extremely helpful. As a visual learner, that resonated a lot more than just reading your text.

And the point of your post, that even Zac Effron loses... this should help a lot of guys. Everyone loses. No one gets all the girls. If she isn't feeling it, move on to one that is!

I look forward to more posts.

amberdus · 2017-05-29T18:34:15+00:00

I've posted this before, but more than anything, people like people that are good at stuff. Find something you enjoy doing, and go get good at it. Make it something practical or primal, and girls will like you. Try martial arts. Learn to cook really well. Figure out how to catch fish better than the guy beside you. When you get good at things, generally your overall appearance changes. You change because you gain confidence. Now people see that you're good at something, and as a bi-product, you have some confidence too. Double Whammy! Now go out and find something you're good at and work hard to be better !

GeoKart · 2017-05-30T00:50:12+00:00

Damn. Lot of hate for Indian guys here (and TRP in general).

Toker95 · 2017-05-30T00:57:40+00:00

Id that you in the long hair pic op ?

Luckyluke23 · 2017-05-30T04:18:32+00:00

Mini FR:

i feel like the fr worked because you was concurrent and the line was lit ( i laughed hard at it, only cos i know you aren't Indian i guess)

then it was what you were wearing. but then again it's good to have an all round package.

Toussant · 2017-06-05T09:24:06+00:00

Why did you delete your post?

Anyway here's this girl with a different guy, different body language:

https://youtu.be/k9E8249eImI?t=7m39s

Cool_Mob · 2017-05-29T03:52:04+00:00

Nah man I'm good.A stinky pussy is not more important than my values and integrity. I'd have given a stern cold stare and turn away from that basic bitch.

And nah man,looks doesn't matter as much as you conveyed in the post. Confidence,Masculinity matters more.

Cdub352 · 2017-05-29T13:06:40+00:00

If you really believe a woman in love will always look at her man instead of the camera and that her looking at the camera is somehow a reflection of his being of less status in her eyes then you really need to get off the forums.

The map is not the territory. Theory is a big picture guide, not a set of Newtonian laws dictating every fleeting moment of human interaction.

epixs · 2017-05-29T02:52:41+00:00

Good post man, lotta helpful advice. Really liked the tren a vs anadrol plug lol. can't beat em'

Title	Even Zac Efron gets blown out
Author	manthefuckup_
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Date	May 29, 2017 1:21 AM UTC (9 years ago)
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