I just quit watching fucking sports...

Halitenina · 2018-04-10T21:06:09+00:00

Rule Zero: Stay On Topic

lovs2spuge · 2018-04-10T16:55:38+00:00

What is wrong with watching sports?

If you get genuine enjoyment out of them, just like you would a movie or any other television program, then who cares? If you are trying to create this illusion that watching them is a waste of time, then isn't doing ANYTHING besides self improvement or working on your career a waste also?

Growing up playing a sport translates into an interest for watching them. I personally like the roller coaster of emotions I get from watching my favorite NFL team.

You shouldn't overly invest in watching sports, much like you wouldn't to anything else, if the rest of your life is not in order. But if it is, sports are sometimes a pleasant distraction and a genuine hobby for a large amount of men.

MentORPHEUS · 2018-04-10T16:40:41+00:00

I've never been interested in sitting still, watching OTHERS be agents of action. I also can't relate to the hardcore sports fan mindset where it becomes a huge part of their personal identity.

Sports are a kind of ritualized warfare; a way for men in a calm society to vicariously satisfy what might become aggressive urges.

Obsessively following a sports team but never working out oneself runs counter to masculinity.

da_Crow · 2018-04-10T19:33:19+00:00

Everyone, like OP, is entitled to their opinion and I respect it. I grew up playing sports and enjoy watching occassionally. But to everyone who thinks that makes a genuine difference to your masculinity, think again. I don't claim to be more of a man because I watch sports, but don't anyone dare claim they're more of a man than me because they don't. Peace.

Jaereth · 2018-04-10T19:48:17+00:00

I never got how excited people get over them.

It's the same reason I don't get how "streamers" have grown to be such an incredible popular institution in our entertainment media today. Ok, so you are watching this guy play a video game? Wouldn't you rather, ya know, play the game yourself?

That's the way I feel about watching sports on TV, or following them at all really. I love playing certain sports, like a lot, and am very competitive (too much) sometimes. BUT, there's no way you are going to catch me on the couch watching some other guys 1000 miles away playing it. It's just not exciting to me.

I've always thought the "sports fans" just had little going on with their personality, so they gravitate to that stuff to have something to talk to other guys about. I guess i'm not quite putting my finger on it. When we are meeting clients or vendors and shit, there's always without fail some guy who during the smalltalk starts talking about a recent sports game or team or what have you. I just couldn't care less.

HungryLikeTheWolf99 · 2018-04-10T16:27:25+00:00

This is a very rational conclusion for you to come to, and I support it.

Playing sports, of course, is an entirely different animal. But watching sports is more about watching celebrities play a game show.

YoungManHHF · 2018-04-10T16:35:44+00:00

you could use all that knowlege to make some money betting on games so its not all to shit

daryan1 · 2018-04-10T16:21:27+00:00

watching sports is fucking dumb, if you know all about your teams stats and ratings but dont know how to change your oil, youre doing it wrong

btrpb · 2018-04-10T16:10:00+00:00

I used to follow the Premier League.

So now I look at these sports, in Britain...sports, and then look at the fans. Your typical Newcastle United fan is a red faced overweight chump wasting his Saturday afternoon paying for millionaires to keep fit whilst he stuffs his face full of pies and lager and then stumbles home to a shitty nights sleep and then goes out for hair of the dog as soon as the pub opens on Sunday.

Is this what sport is? Unless you are competing at a reasonable level at one of these games your should pretty much avoid them and invest all that time in your own physical and mental well being.

PatsFever · 2018-04-10T16:23:29+00:00

Yea I quit watching the NBA because I realized it was giving me a false, masturbatory sense of competition. Just unhealthy if you ask me.

Damien_Scott · 2018-04-10T16:11:00+00:00

I can understand the camaraderie sports interest can create with strangers. I've never had an interest in watching sports. I've always felt that it was a huge waste of passion and aggression in men. Plus almost every sport league is corrupt as fuck. The fact that college ball players can't make a dime off thier name while the league makes billions on them is disgusting.

You'll see sports folk give gamers shit, yet they still jerk off to their fantasy football and bet thousands on games.

mallardcove · 2018-04-10T18:40:02+00:00

r / ihatesportsball

But honestly, what is the point of this post? So you made a decision for yourself. Great.

Are you trying to push the notion that men should not follow sports and its a waste of time? I'll have to disagree with that. If you want to choose that path, go ahead, I don't fault you for it at all. But don't try to lecture other men here that its a bad thing.

What I find hilarious is most of the guys ripping on others who enjoy watching sports probably didn't even play sports themselves and were picked last for everything. I played sports at a fairly high level(NCAA Division 1 baseball and football) and therefore can appreciate the ability it takes to be able to compete at high levels.

Like with everything, moderation. If you have worked hard all week, got your lifting in and want to sit back, relax and watch a game or two, go ahead. Same with video games. Just don't let it overtake your other priorities.

dcmcmd · 2018-04-10T17:32:41+00:00

I disagree with this. I had a very BP childhood but the exception was going to watch live sports with my dad. As a child/teen I learnt a lot about sportsmanship, competition, fighting to the death, dignity in defeat, etc from following a (UK) football team. It was also my primary exposure to a men-only atmosphere - very old-school guys drinking, swearing, occasionally fighting, but with real cameraderie.

I will say however that I also make a point of trying to play football socially, regardless of lack of ability, and I do a lot of running/gym work. Without that physical engagement then yes I could see how obsessing over sports might be a bit tragic.

BernaySaynders · 2018-04-10T17:15:25+00:00

Your logic is flawed. With the way you present your argument literally everything that isn't directly improving your life should be cut out. So that's gonna be cutting out basically every form of entertainment.

Just because you had no self control and let sports dominate your life doesn't mean we have to cut it out of our lives.

Watching sports is one of the biggest forms of inspiration for men. When I would watch Floyd Mayweather put on a masterclass performance it would inspire me to put in the work next day in the gym.

In addition to that, sports is also a great source of bonding with other men, though playing is better than watching in that case.

This post is literally retarded.

Gainster1990 · 2018-04-10T16:26:15+00:00

Here here, I used to be an avid fan of the premier league, I'd frequently go to games, spend my Saturdays watching Gillette Soccer Saturday etc. What a waste atleast I copped on at 25 years old that this is bluepill time wasting at its finest sugarcoated into making you think you're spending time wisely.

Good call OP you are also young and this is a blessing, the only " sports " I follow now is boxing and mma purely because I train martial arts other than that, obessive fans of team sports are time wasting betas.

Our competition is weak fellas, enjoy the decline.

RosstheMoss81 · 2018-04-10T16:07:57+00:00

After awhile you realize nothings on and all there is to do is go forward.

Jman1994678 · 2018-04-10T18:57:46+00:00

Wtf? No one cares if you don't like watching sports. It's fun for most people. I don't honestly see how this is RedPill related

mcmemi01 · 2018-04-10T17:10:22+00:00

Yeah this is fucking dumb...stop watching Tv shows, movies, YouTube videos, anything with entertainment value if this is your stance.

You could still enjoy sports without wasting your time following meaningless stats. Just watch the games you like and have a beer

[deleted] · 2018-04-10T16:54:23+00:00

The local sports ball team lost a playoff game a few years ago..... my girl at the time said "Let me get this straight, you don't want to have sex with your horny young girlfriend because other men lost a game?"

Got to say she had a point.

[deleted] · 2018-04-10T17:04:47+00:00

Only sports I could still enjoy has been boxing and mma. Mostly due to the sweet science involved in combat sports. The only good ones to really watch imho are amateurs or people on undercards not involved in any shenanigans trying to promote their fight. Aside from that everything has been cringe worthy. I don't care much for the lead up I just want to see good competition. But everything has just been getting worse as of late.

XanJamZ · 2018-04-10T19:03:54+00:00

There’s nothing wrong with sports. But it appears OP is referring to his obsession with sports and how it never returned him anything. It’s okay to enjoy something, but if that something isn’t helping you advance in life it’s probably best not to spend too much time obsessing over the details.

Black_m0ngoose · 2018-04-10T19:29:23+00:00

You're watching other men, be men.

Be a man worth watching.

rightshot12 · 2018-04-10T19:31:47+00:00

Sonny: So you must be pretty upset after the Yankees lost?

Young Calogero: Bill Mazeroski, I hate him. He made Mickey Mantle cry. The paper said the Mick cried.

Sonny: Mickey Mantle? That's what you're upset about? Mantle makes $100,000 a year. How much does your father make? If your father can't pay the rent go ask Mickey Mantle and see what what he tells you. Mickey Mantle don't care about you. Why should you care about him? Nobody cares.

Scene from the movie "A Bronx Tale" , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md2vBiNm7W.

EscapeTheGoat · 2018-04-10T20:03:58+00:00

I mean. I watch sports with my male friends. It's not all we do together but I mean it can be a legitimate way to bond with other men. You don't have to get pathologically invested though.

wolframheart90 · 2018-04-10T16:12:18+00:00

I'm a big sports fan. when my team loses I feel depressed and like shit. when they win I feel great. my self esteem is tied to my teams. it's not good. with thst said in not giving up my teams I just need to not have my sport teams dictate my mood and confidence

ThatOneDrunkUncle · 2018-04-10T17:06:41+00:00

I'm with you. I'm also 23 and I realized that watching other men do things I wish I could do is simply a waste of time. Like the others here have said, sports are recreation, but watching sports is masturbatory. It was fine growing up when we had someone to watch and something to aspire to, but it's time to start focusing on your own life. Sporting events are also fine for the social aspect.

A word of warning though, if your social circles are heavily involved in following sports, keep up with your teams on a periphery level so you still come across as one of the guys. Law 38: Think as you like but behave like others. Sports are still a man's domain and a lot of men enjoy discussing it. You will come across as arrogant if you act "above" following sports.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2018-04-10T16:47:34+00:00

There is a difference, of course, between "Playing Sports" and "Watching Sports"

Playing sports growing up is key to a man's development. I would suggest at least one team sport (to learn teamwork) and one individual sport (to learn self reliance).

Some recommendations:

-Social sports, like tennis and golf. I personally hate golf, but I wish I was good at it because, in business, that would be useful. I used to fuck a European pro-tennis player (nobody you've heard of). She was extremely fit, and looked great, naked, and she also liked that I was (a) willing to go hit balls with her - evidently her previous bfs were too insecure, and (b) that I could at least give her a bit of a work out - make no mistake about it, she could wipe the court with me, but at least I made a game of it. So if I hadn't spent some time playing tennis growing up, I'd have had to have passed.

-Swimming. Swimming is beneficial as we get older, because it's not as hard on the body, or particular areas of the body, as other sports (running, I'm looking at you). There are also other sports & activities that require swimming - water polo, SCUBA, etc.

-I also enjoy the shooting sports because I grew up with guns. Also, don't let the current libtardness in the USA fool you, there are a lot of women who think it's hot when a guy knows how to handle guns.

Pick a couple of sports that you enjoy and can do over a lifetime or at least through middle age.

The problem with "Watching Sports" is not that some folks derive enjoyment from it, it's that too many guys are too wrapped up in it, take shit too seriously or anesthetize themselves with sportsball and beer, turn into fat, sloppy turds, and then wonder why their wives are divorcing them. I played the traditional sports growing up, and I was a fan of my local teams, but now I only attend games for social reasons. I have some friends who are season ticket holders (why?) and I sometimes get invited to go on their seats. It's fun for the social aspects, but I don't really care who wins. A lot of business gets done at those types of events, so they are useful in that way.

I put "fantasy sports" in the same category as "video games". Look I don't want to dump on someone else's fun, but those things are "hobbies" not sports, and they aren't particularly useful ones, unless you are trying to impress other "no hopers" with your 9th level paladin or whatever.

cenie · 2018-04-10T16:29:43+00:00

Try going to games and just enjoying the sport(s), rather than trying to be some uptight elitist stat watcher.

FirstNamesMusic · 2018-04-10T19:13:08+00:00

This is a bit of an extreme view.

I understand your point of why sports don't matter.

You have to have some downtime in order to fully focus when it's time to put in work.

I see nothing wrong with doing something you enjoy. If I'm working out 2 hours a day, working 8, and doing community service the other 3. You better get your ass I'm going to watch the braves.

To all those who don't want to watch sports, really good luck making business connections.

Sometimes the only thing you can have in common with a client is sports, so you must learn it so you can keep the business relationship strong.

And this sports = porn is bullshit. Maybe the underlying principle of watching something you enjoy, but that is literally it.

So with an extension of that theory, almost anything you enjoy that isn't yoh actively doing something = porn.

Music = porn. Art = porn. Literature = porn. Radio programs = porn.

What you are doing is taking a biological reaction to literally any stimuli and equating that to the maximum.

That would be akin to:

Walking = marathon. Jogging = iron man. Biking in the gym = tour de France.

Now my rant is over.

practicepricipleprep · 2018-04-10T16:07:35+00:00

Don't announce. Just Do.

TRPmc117 · 2018-04-10T16:49:12+00:00

Sports are strictly social for me now. I play fantasy football to have a fun competition with friends. I'll watch games at the bar as a way of socializing and supporting friends.

Beyond that, idgaf. ESPN is just "E! Entertainment News" for betas pretending to be masculine.

I follow my alma mater's football team closely, beyond that the only sports I really go out of my way to watch now are surfing and MMA, and that's strictly because I surf and do BJJ.

askmrcia · 2018-04-10T17:22:58+00:00

I'm with you to an extent. And I grew up playing sports all the way through college. Hell I still play in rec leagues and tournaments to this day at age 27.

I rarely watch it. I watch enough of it to keep a conversation going or to debate anyone. But wasting three hours plus (most people watch more than one game) of my Sundays watching football is a huge waste of time.

NBA teams play 82 games a year. Do I really need to watch my fav team play that many games? Hell even half of that amount is still too many especially when most of the games don't matter at all.

But yea I'm with you. I watch enough of it. I can still hold a debate on who's better between lebron and mj, what trades don't make sense, which player this NFL team should draft, ect... You know just enough to keep a conversation in social settings and stuff.

It's not just sports but I feel the same with TV shows, video games (cut that shit out completely) and stuff too.

Masoun · 2018-04-10T17:51:54+00:00

I feel the same way about videogames

WorldNewPilla · 2018-04-10T17:53:07+00:00

watching and reading statistics 24/7 is stupid, watching or attending a match here and there is fine in my opinion.

Stationarity · 2018-04-10T17:56:29+00:00

Only watch sports if you play as well. Only read TRP if you game as well.

RandyBumgardner85 · 2018-04-10T18:01:15+00:00

Fortunately I've never liked sports but football is a national obsession in the UK. Any time I walk into an office there's almost always a conversation going on about football. It struck me that these guys (who in most cases don't go to matches and are not from the city they support) care more about the success of their team than ANY other aspect of their lives. It's like they never really grew up.

AlexDr0ps · 2018-04-10T18:17:11+00:00

A lot of comments in here saying it's good to drop sports in favor of self improvement and a lot saying the opposite. I think what it comes down to, like everything else in the world, is moderation.

If sports consume your life and you can't improve yourself because of it, drop them. If you follow your local team and enjoy watching a game once or twice a week, do it. Same goes with video games or watching TV. Many people dont have the self control to only play video games once a week, so the best advice is to delete them. But what's the point of living if you dont indulge on things you enjoy ever?

PB0034 · 2018-04-10T18:22:07+00:00

Stoicism and Chelsea’s recent results helped me in losing interest in sports. Couple months ago I was fuming after some shit Courtois did. And then the inner stoicism made me realize that I can’t control the outcome of a soccer game, so I shouldn’t get mad. After that it was kinda hard to control anger bc chelsea was still playing shitty, so I just stopped watching.

MisterRoid · 2018-04-10T18:28:50+00:00

The only sport I'm into is strongman, and I think it contributes to my life because it inspires me to put more energy into the gym when I watch guys like Big Z and Kaz lift heavy objects.

1v1crown · 2018-04-10T18:41:50+00:00

Please watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WIbwxGPA30

Sam Hyde explains it all. You are making the right choice.

JJ3314 · 2018-04-10T18:44:30+00:00

I agree—I tend to not watch sports for the above reasons. While recreation/rejuvination are an important part of life in my opinion, there is definitely a hierarchy of preferred activities. Recreational activities that are escapist or masturbatory ultimately detract from your quality of life. I think the goal is to have most of your R and R time spent in activities that develop you in some way, or genuinely replenish your batteries—better to play sports (solo or with a group) than to watch it, etc.

Don’t get me wrong—I’m not saying that watching sports, or being a passive consumer of entertainment is always toxic, it’s just that there is a tendency to get sucked into these activities, and down the line you can start to feel like you wasted your time. Whereas I almost never feel like I wasted time at the gym, or developing myself at my instrument (jazz piano), if the practice was focused.

[deleted] · 2018-04-10T18:58:22+00:00

I go to games with people pretty often, support our state's teams, watch them on tv every now and then and in that way it doesn't seem like a waste of time to me. It can be a really good social activity. Balance is key. You can't be watching sports 24/7 just like you can't be productive 24/7

ElijahBurningWoods · 2018-04-10T19:00:34+00:00

I stopped playing videogames and feel the same. I got plenty of spare time I can now invest into TRP theory and improving my income.

red_matrix · 2018-04-10T19:03:07+00:00

Watching sports is no different than watching TV, YouTube or Netflix. It's entertainment for some, and a hobby for others. We all need a little downtime to recharge. One thing that makes sports different are the games (and live events) that bring people together and allow us to bond. Oh yeah, chicks go to these events as well.

Joriko13 · 2018-04-10T19:04:26+00:00

Why not look at this through a different perspective.

Assuming you have an ability to compile the data and stats of multiple teams and players across sports you seem to be very adept at absorbing data.

Why not use this knowledge and apply it differently? Maybe start a podcast talking about stats? Predicting fantasy relevance?

All this is telling me is youve clearly have a niche ability that you've yet to utilize in a way that benefits you. Don't squander a talent, no matter how stupid you THINK the talent is.

In today's social media driven world, you may be sitting on an opportunity. If you want to view it in the lense of TRP, now is the time to capitalize on your free time and make something out of what you perceived as being nothing.

All the best.

PhilipChr · 2018-04-10T19:31:57+00:00

Put that knowledge to some use and start playing DFS.

Metalageddon · 2018-04-10T19:40:04+00:00

Yeah the issue here wasn't sports, nor being enthusiastic in a hobby.

It was as you said, the fact that you were using it as an escape. That apparently has begun to bother you. Great! You'll pick up new things.

drkinferno72 · 2018-04-10T20:03:51+00:00

Don't watch sports, play sports

TunedtoPerfection · 2018-04-10T20:17:53+00:00

Damn all the spergs spouting off in absolutes.

Is watching a sports game bad? No
Is watching a WWE match bad? No
Is playing a video game, smoking a joint, whacking off once bad? No

Is doing any of those things in excess a good use of your time? No.

Following sports to the extend the OP and some of my old BP friends do is a virus. If you can name off random useless stats and have actual discussion about them with other dudes that can do the same, I would argue your not using your time as wisely as you should.

I watch sports sometime, I don't have a favorite team, I watch my local teams play because that is the access I have to watch live sports. I love football and hockey, I love the strategy involved, the competition, the aggressive nature. I could not tell you who scored how many touchdowns or who was drafted or fuck even any of my local teams records.

I like the game, not the teams, not the stats, not the heated discussion about how one quarterback is better then the other. But you put on a good game, and hell I'll probably sit down and watch it,. I'll even cheer when a good play is made or someone reads offense well and scores.

Your all jumping off the cuff like OP said sports are evil and ruining all men. OP realized he was being pulled down by his seemingly excessive investment in sports, that's all.

Joel928 · 2018-04-10T20:19:43+00:00

I've spent most of my life being a huge American sports fan.

No longer - it's a fucking ENORMOUS waste of time, on par with any other form of absurd television entertainment. (Most men "don't have time" to pursue that dream, but oh, 4-hours of College Football? No problem!)

Watching sports, in particular, watching other men play team sports, can also be a profoundly unhealthy form of tribalism - beyond an astounding time drain and a deeply delusional hostility towards other men, many guys spend untold sums of money doing this. Truly shocking sums, when totaled. If you don't have an IRA to speak of, but you've got NFL season tickets - STOP.

Like anything, I partake on occasion, and I'm likely older than most of you - but if/when you find yourself growing out of watching other men play games, don't feel guilty for not supporting "your" team. Being a "fan" isn't as Alpha as you might think.

Faps2Down_Votes · 2018-04-10T20:27:40+00:00

Sports is like anything. As long as you don't let it control your life you're fine. I used to get mad when my Vikings lost. I still like watching the games, but now I don't let it affect me.

Also, I play fantasy football with a few groups of friends. We have a year long group chat but activity is tenfold during the season. It's a way we can bond and talk shit together.

We get you don't like sports just like I am not in to video games or television shows . It's really no different than video games or watching tv. If any of those activities consume your life it's not good for you.

dutch411 · 2018-04-10T20:34:44+00:00

I was just like you, I cut it down big time but still watch my favorite teams - I keep it to watching the games mostly socially.

mental_models · 2018-04-10T20:35:52+00:00

I loved sports (both playing and watching) when I was an athlete. I knew every player and every coach, and their varying styles and abilities.

Now, try as I might, it's just not that interesting. If I had an opportunity to manage a franchise, or assist a coaching staff, I'd certainly take the money and do an excellent job. If I was given some court-side or luxury box tickets to take a client, I'd certainly go and have a great time. Every couple/few years I go to a Super Bowl party at a friend's house or sports bar. I'm just no longer entertained as a viewer. I don't really like to watch much of anything (tv, movies, sports, etc...) to be honest.

Enough personal feelings on the topic. How does it relate to Red Pilled Theory? Basically, you want to concentrate most on the things that you can directly control and the things that you can influence, and not spend a lot of time on peripheral things that aren't advancing your path. Some rest/relaxation/entertainment is fine in moderation. Just assess every now and then whether you wasting productive time on things that you can't control, influence or use to advance.

Circle of Influence.

tommygunner91 · 2018-04-10T21:07:08+00:00

Yeah I never understood it myself. physically play sports? awesome, lets do it. Watch somebody play sports? Boring as hell.

theTurkeyDancer · 2018-04-10T21:11:33+00:00

i agree with the analogies to porn, but at least with porn you "win" every time. also you'd have to watch it for 10 times as long and be able to recite the length, girth, and cum-count for each star.

ImSteveMcQueen · 2018-04-10T21:16:27+00:00

Watching sports is watching someone else's life. Their accomplishments, their actions, their outcomes. It is fine if you are doing for a reason to further YOUR life, ie. relaxation, social activity, motivation, etc. but a lot of people get addicted to TV, sports, alcohol, gaming,etc. to SOOTHE themselves. To make them feel OK when their lives are, in fact, not OK.

I was actually a little bit motivated by the OP's post because it made me mentally check why I watch sports. Truthfully, I am a bit too invested in the local team. I'm going to cut back that shit.

[deleted] · 2018-04-10T19:38:34+00:00

I agree completely. Go play sports or lift weights watching sports is for losers.

Mattadore1 · 2018-04-10T17:59:22+00:00

Fucking cancer. I realized I used sports to fucking escape reality. Now I feel like a big fucking stone has fallen from my shoulders. So much time and energy to focus on my career. To care about me. It's time to up and go now.

This is how I felt after I ditched video games. I wasted many, MANY years playing video games, especially MMO's that ultimately did nothing for me in real life. I think pornography is next, but that one is taking longer than expected to get rid of.

brian_reddit_77 · 2018-04-10T18:44:21+00:00

Watching sports = BETA

Playing sports = ALPHA

Be a man of action. Not a pussy on the sidelines watching better men.

I just quit watching fucking sports...

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Title	I just quit watching fucking sports...
Author	AssumeFormlessness
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Date	April 10, 2018 3:55 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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