Is this "RP burnout"?

BellatorCordis · 2013-12-17T15:04:11+00:00

Success with women often feels like a Pyrrhic victory.

Zunscriii · 2013-12-17T15:20:03+00:00

This is not a burnout, this is how it begins. I think everyone in this subreddit has felt the way you do.

xiko · 2013-12-17T13:54:12+00:00

I think you are disgusted by them because you still think that they should behave in a way you think is right. They don't and won't. Accept the fact that they are what they are and enjoy yourself and life.

Fhom · 2013-12-17T15:25:04+00:00

Why do my eyes burn?

Because you have never used them.

Clauderoughly · 2013-12-17T14:43:49+00:00

you still have pussy up on a pedestal.

You still expect women to act with honor and decency.

You need to stop that.

Try focusing on something else for a while. Develop a hobby that doesn't revolve around women. It seems to be a common problem, that when you make everything about bedding women, you forget about all the other awesome things in life.

Get out there, and do something fun and not female related.

It'll clear your head.

ClearArmor · 2013-12-17T16:00:57+00:00

In my experience the most attractive women are simply those that put in the greatest effort to appear attractive (i.e. hair, clothes, makeup). Anyone who has ever seen before/after makeup photos knows what I mean. And those that try the hardest are usually doing so because they are insecure. And an insecure woman is more likely to seek reassurance outside the relationship, or act jealous and controlling. Also, for women, beauty grants social power in much the same way that wealth does for men. That power often corrupts, creating a sense of entitlement and narcissism. So yeah, I also find myself dismissive of women that appear to have a greater degree of physical beauty because they usually turn out to be the most shallow, narcissistic, entitled and insecure. And they usually look no better than the "less attractive" alternatives when they're not dolled up.

joldenrod · 2013-12-17T15:56:40+00:00

I took the pill about 6 months ago and I'm where you are. I have found it very helpful to start seeing women as literally occupying some middle ground between child and adult. It's made putting up with their lunacy more tolerable, the way you'd permit a toddler to throw their spaghetti on your floor but you'd never do the same for say, a co-worker. Getting into a position where your relationship with women is satisfying and sustainable is very achievable, but not on your terms. Not on their terms, either. On Nature's terms. A special woman (or women) is not going to complete, not going to love and cherish you unconditionally, not going to make you happy. If you play your cards right then maybe you can have a couple of attractive young girls who respect you and are down for whatever you want to do to their tight little bodies. Godspeed. But that just satisfies the cock. Your head, your heart.. these things Nature leaves to you to pick up the slack. The key is internal validation, an internal source of happiness. I think it may just about be the most attractive trait of all. Because if you are truly content, a DGAF attitude will naturally manifest (i.e. it won't feel "exhausting" to you, something I totally sympathize with presently) and draw the pussy to you like a vag magnet (new term I'm trying to get started). Unfortunately, I don't know how to make this magical unicorn called internal validation appear into my life. That's why I'm taking this entire week to be alone and figure out how to love myself. What would I respect in me if I met myself on the street? If I didn't have a single woman who wanted anything to do with me? What would I have left of myself? Far too little, my friend, far too little. Now if you'll excuse me I suddenly feel like lifting some weights.

trpRX · 2013-12-17T15:19:25+00:00

Don't be angry with woman, it is like being angry at a wild thing for not bending to your will. Appreciate them for what they are, just don't let them fool you. Be the best you, you can be... everything else will come on its own.

slfnflctd · 2013-12-17T17:27:36+00:00

the work it takes is kind of exhausting

Haven't seen anyone else address this part yet, so I thought I'd chime in.

The thrill of the chase and lust for the prize are supposed to be your energy source for the high output involved with things like maintaining frame (especially when it's not natural for you and may never fully be; believe me, I understand this). Without either of those things, you're looking at a lot of hard work for something you don't value that much-- a poor return on your investment. So here's my suggestion: don't put so much effort into anything primarily related to chasing the prize.

As is repeated often here - and elsewhere in this very thread - improving yourself is job #1. When a woman doesn't seem to be enough motivation to do this, do it for all the other reasons-- improving your physical & mental health, your career (if not money-wise then enjoyment-wise), your relationships with friends & family, and that intangible glimmer of all the great future opportunities it will enable that you can't imagine yet.

Managing first impressions is a skill that gets easier with practice, that part doesn't always have to be so exhausting. However, it gets harder the more time you spend with someone-- they'll eventually see your 'doormat' side come out involuntarily. That side of you should diminish if/when you gain more confidence in your life path, but it may never fully go away. I say, so what? A real man doesn't care if someone decides they like him less because he showed a moment of 'weakness'. He knows his value regardless of whatever surface criteria others judge him by.

The best way to 'act outgoing' is to become that way naturally. If it's not coming naturally all the time, why put out constant effort to force it? Sure, practice. Keep working on things that will feed into making this easier. But there's no reason to feel like a failure if it's not what you want to do all the time. You're a free man, enjoy your freedom. Yeah, it sucks that the lies & misunderstandings about the real world which used to motivate you can't any longer, but we're flexible beings. With time, other things will motivate you.

The best reward is when you hardly have to put forth any effort because you've become such an awesome human being that they come to you. The return on your investment will be a lot more acceptable then.

aaron_the_just · 2013-12-17T17:27:57+00:00

Average 5s, or ugly fat chicks, are just as much of a buzzkill to maintain a relationship with

you can't really have a happy relationship in our American culture. instead, enjoy that you can sleep with many beautiful women (they will worship you and cry over you)... and you can spend your Friday nights with your buddies and your hobbies.

Clauderoughly · 2013-12-17T15:26:04+00:00

I suggest you look into MGTOW. There are many of us that are in the same situation and find picking up girls not worth the effort given the screwed up society we live in today. You have to remember it wasn't always like this so it's not entirely under your control.

‘Modern girls’ are severely lacking in intellect, not because their brains are incapable of thinking, but that simply society does not require them to really ‘think’ at all, thus they are not forced to know anything other than subtly manipulating guys.

The MGTOW essentially have come to terms with the situation in front of them. Their see the injustice the MRA see, and they see the hypocrisy of women’s stated desires vs their real desires PUA see. MGTOW are not driven by racking up notch counts, nor do they have the supposed passion but lack of will the MRA have.

MGTOW have seen reality from the bottom, been fucked, taken advantage of, or otherwise screwed by hands that were either female, or under female control. They realize the game is against them, and instead of playing it like the PUA to set a high score, they essential say, ‘fuck this, I am going to live my own life. If a girl is there, fine, but I have damn high standards, because I do not need a girl to “make my life complete”. I am living my own damn life by my rules.’

http://eruditeknight.wordpress.com/2013/03/28/the-difference-between-mgtow-mra-pua/

I had an epiphany when I read the aforementioned article. What do you think a girl means when she claims to be "strong" and "independent." Perhaps she is projecting what she finds attractive in men onto herself? Contrast that to many posts and comments you see even on this sub, "I feel empty without a woman" or "I need women, wahh."

bigern77 · 2013-12-17T14:45:01+00:00

I was going to write a post on TheRedPill, but it appears you've already done it for me. Your description is exactly how I feel, yet I'll add to it - I also somehow feel empty without a woman. What a fucking curse this life is!

By the way, how old are you? I'm guessing at least 30. Well anyway, I'm mid 30s.

torn_paper_heart · 2013-12-17T19:52:59+00:00

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Brobody · 2013-12-17T23:00:38+00:00

You guys will laugh at me.

The type of girl you want is a country girl. They are a hottie but the difference is they grew up on the farm. They had to work in the dirt growing up. Their mom taught them to take care of her man, that it is her job to cook him dinner. Her dad used to take her hunting, so you better know how to take her out too.

And biggest difference of all: when she says she likes horses it's because she actually owns them.

johnnight · 2013-12-17T16:39:47+00:00

Gillian Jacobs is now a 9.5. In her teens she was a skinny, big glasses wearing nerd. Her personality is now fine.

The 9-10 you talk about were spoilt by being too pretty in their formative teen years. It fucks up their personality, if they get the pussy pass too early. All the attention blows your ego huge.

Maybe that's the trick. Keep your daughter ugly as long as possible.

Hokuten85 · 2013-12-17T18:14:43+00:00

Some people are suggesting picking up a new hobby. Here's one for suggestion... Start educating these women on what you are doing. Pick them up. And then blow their mind. Doesn't really matter if they go bat shit crazy on you because you don't really care right?

Expose them to what you did and how you did it. Believe it or not, they DO have a brain and can use it if they wish...if they are made aware of their spinning hamster they might be able to overcome some natural behaviors.

And hey... if they can't overcome it...at least they've been exposed to their weakness. If they fall for the shit again, then I'd imagine they'd experience a whole new level of shame.

Give them the chance to prove you wrong and see if they can learn from their mistakes?

jquest23 · 2013-12-17T15:16:54+00:00

Yeah, I've felt this way many times. Looking behind the curtain, and seeing the truth, its discouraging to say the least. As so many woman fall into the standard type. IE. not compatible with the new more RP me. Yet. I'm keeping hope.

I figure I know the mechanics and the mind process of woman much better now. I don't go nuts when they shit test, I just move on.

Now, I'm no expert, but whom is? Figuring out woman is like trying to say what a cloud will look like in an hour..

But Its getting easier to tell if a female is good or bad for me. The negative, is you start to see how many are not compatible. What does that tell me? I got to look harder, and work harder to find that rare gem.

cagethepepper · 2013-12-17T15:18:59+00:00

I'm going through a similar experience. I'm taking some time out of women and improving other aspects in my life.

W-Z-R · 2013-12-17T20:17:16+00:00

Sort of, for me behaviour which makes women more attracted to me diminishes my attraction towards them and treating them really well (i.e. being a beta bucks type guy) makes me actually like and respect them, but turns them off. So annoying, like a cruel trick someone is playing on me.

torn_paper_heart · 2013-12-17T16:33:07+00:00

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Baridi · 2013-12-17T22:00:44+00:00

I just have zero respect for them in general. All you can really do is enjoy them until you find one you can stand to be around for a while.

Dating a woman is much like being the caboose in a human centipede, you're always the one on the receiving end of their shit, and any shit that she has been put through.

mrpoopistan · 2013-12-18T02:42:09+00:00

"Seems like just about every 9-10 is the epitome of entitled princess that Western women have become. I don't think that I could ever trust one to be in a relationship with her."

Versus what? The 4s who act the exact same way?

jmikolash · 2013-12-18T04:35:53+00:00

It is a matter of preference. Once you understand the true nature of women you get to decide whether you like them or not. I personally find them amusing. I've been playing a game with them lately called feeding the hamster, where I make a woman in a relationship desire me, then lead her along the path of rationalizations that she begins to create to break up with her boyfriend.

I don't judge women for being how they are, because I am exponentially more of a twisted degenerate than they are. Unlike them I am aware of what is going on. Instead of turning my nose up at this pile of hogs shit, I have jumped in face first, mouth open, penis erect.

I am not better than the game. I am just a gear in the meat grinder into which the naive ideals of beta males and feminists are fed.

Possumsgrease · 2013-12-18T05:06:07+00:00

yeah it sucks but the more I know about women the more I come to resent them and I think thats the fate were forced to live unless we get a nice obedient asian bride

slcjosh · 2013-12-18T19:04:28+00:00

i feel indifferent towards women now. discovered trp in march, been spinning plates and doing my own thing since. recently started a new career i love the FUCK out of, im making great money, and im busy all the time. I hardly have time to even think about women with my work load but the best part is, i enjoy the work more than female company. And they are responding to it.

tcts · 2013-12-30T01:33:17+00:00

I would say the best option is to find a girl in the 5.5-7 area. Possibly one who doesn't have a high self esteem. Not anything crazy, just a girl who doesn't realize that she has attractive qualities.

They tend to not be princess-y and appreciate a guy. Obviously the drawback is she isn't the hottest girl around, but I'd rather take someone who is reasonably attractive and good in a relationship over a hotter girl with fewer positive qualities.

Of course, there are elusive unicorns, 8+ who are good relationship material, but they're pretty rare.

Party_Liquor · 2013-12-17T19:04:02+00:00

Dude, you couldn't have descibed how I feel more perfectly. The only edit I would make for it match my view 100% would be:

I see an ~~attractive~~ woman and just think of what a shitty person she most likely is.

2FAM0US · 2013-12-17T13:26:09+00:00

Have any of you guys experienced this kind of buzz kill?

such a negative nancy

Found a way past it?

i still love fresh young pussy, no matter how misbehaved

Title	Is this "RP burnout"?
Author	torn_paper_heart
Upvotes	38
Comments	77
Date	December 17, 2013 1:09 PM UTC (12 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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