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[–]Awesomeo70706 228 points229 points230 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I have absolutely no issue with their preferences...just don't complain later.
[–]Captainbuttman 160 points161 points162 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Not only will she complain later, her bastard from that relationship will be society's problem as well.
[–]MattyK414 70 points71 points72 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Yup. And this clueless goon will tell her son what "makes a good man". Hell.
[–]Land_of_the_Losersthe-niceguy.com 32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And-- only coincidentally mind you-- her perception of "good man" will probably come at times of parenting stress and financial want, and be colored by that context, rather than being colored by what constitutes a "good man" when she was childless and banging dudes at nightclubs.
[–]MattyK414 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very true. They like "nice guys".
They just don't tell you that they prefer 12 of them at a time.
[–]futurist_dreamer39 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women want bad men during good times and good men during bad times.
[–]futurist_dreamer39 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women tend to raise their sons to behave like the men they will never fuck.
[–]Warm_Investigator_55 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
My grandfather told my mother she raised a gay son when he was 6/7. She denied. He is gay and married to a man. Nature + nurture IMO
[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And don't lie about it later either.
If they didn't do those things and overall accepted the consequences of their choices, most of us wouldn't bother giving half a shit about what they do.
But it's not what happens, so here we are.
[–]The_Meep_Lord 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The thing is that will never happen.
They will either lie or blame men.
[–]selfreliancedan 119 points120 points121 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
The juice isn’t worth the squeeze. Just GYOW
[–]H31N5T 61 points62 points63 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All roads lead to MGTOW.
[–]AutisticusFell off the slut wagon 40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, its the only answer
[–]Jihocech_Honza 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
If the price paid for being attractive for women (to give them that great sex) is to be a jerk, I would rather stay single.
[–]HotnBotheredCO 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not. It's just that this particular woman is likely personality disordered or similar and needs to get her back blown out in 15 positions by some troglodyte per session but is also wildly needy and insecure.
[–]Vikingbeard1 99 points100 points101 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
"I've found that people who spend their time developing skills A, B, and C, are not as good at skills X, Y, and Z, as compared to the people who instead spend their time developing skills X, Y, and Z, although they in turn suck at skills A, B, and C! Has anyone else noticed this revelation!? And what's that? TEACH them? Like, men can learn things? I had no idea! I've now had my mind blown twice!"
Fucking galaxy brain.
[–]Overlordofwhatever 52 points53 points54 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Are you asking a woman to do something. Like actually put forth genuine effort and not consume and consume and consume.
[–]Vikingbeard1 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I mean, they have all that education and mid-level desk jobs, many of them are able to put in effort; there's just this huge blind spot in relationships.
[–]Overlordofwhatever 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
With every thing else they understand. With guys it's like we're supposed to do everything. It's a one way street. And guys are the same. With every thing else they get it. They are good at business, you got to give to get. But with women it's suddenly a about proving how manly you are just to get some. And they crush themselves for it
[–]Vikingbeard1 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well, but it works. I mean, if all you want is to get laid, anyway. Because that's what most women care about now--they set the rules, and most men just fall in line or quit the game. Business isn't perfectly predictable either, but you can tell you're making progress and have a plan to earn business; with women, nope, trying to EARN their respect is now manipulation, sexism, NiceGuy behavior, so ironically, all we can do is actually manipulate them or just hope for the best. Meanwhile, there's no reason women can't do better, they used to do better, but they don't even know they are doing poorly until it's too late.
[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Trying to earn a woman's respect is, ironically, the one thing you can do to make them never respect you.
See, with men, we understand the need to shut the fuck up and learn from the experts. Experienced men respect deference from their lessers, so long as it isn't simpering.
Women, in the other hand, don't respect men who they have power over.
The reason that is relevant, is because trying to earn their respect tells them "I'm inferior to you". It automatically makes you undeserving of respect. If you want a woman's respect, do your own thing and ignore them when they shit test you.
[–]Typo-MAGAshivasshole. worst mod EVAR. 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Excellent comment, and very true.
I didn't see it when you originally commented 6 days ago, but noticed it now because it popped up in the moderation queue.
Some pearl-clutching smoothbrain reported it for "promoting hate based on identity or vulnerability". They can go fuck themselves. Comment approved.
[–]anykah_baduopen-minded, not-easily-offended wahmyns 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha spot on. The point of a relationship is that you can get better at sex with each other specifically by doing that over and over for a long ass time. It's about the long-term mutual profits, not getting an immediate payoff and then fucking ghosted
[–]chuck-u_farleyKnows the secret to Schrödinger's Slut 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
logic is so patriarchy
Women feel entitled to a man “just knowing” so that isn’t going to happen.
[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 88 points89 points90 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Wow. Let me go paragraph by paragraph:
Single for a year and having casual sex on tinder
RP truth pictured here: cock carousel
Notice how she didnt even bother to say "dating" - she just openly admitted that she belongs to the streets and, as her post will reveal, her sample size is large enough to make inferences about the male population in general.
I ended up matching and meeting with two types of guys who wanted casual sex: the kind ones and the guys who are absolute jerks
RP truth pictured here: Apex fallacy
The reality is that there are more than two types of guys. But she is operating from the 10/80/10 principle so she only sees the bottom 10% ("the absolute jerks") when looking for reasons to blame men, and the top 10% ("the kind ones") for her preferred partner. What is interesting is her next paragraph.
The only reason I even tolerated the jerks was that I just wanted sex, not a relationship
RP truth pictured here: AF/BB
She knew that the men she purposely gave sex to were not long-term relationship material and she still did it anyways. Multiple times. A ride so nice she did it twice a metric fuckton. If she really were tired of "absolute jerks" she would only date "the kind ones" and find one that gives her tingles.
But that would be logical, and tingles trump logic every fuckin' time.
While I preferred having a partner that's kind and nice, I've noticed that I've had WAY better sex with the jerks.
RP truth pictured here: Tingle chasing
This bitch is lying to herself to justify wanting that chad dick over that billy dick. See, an attractive woman attracts all types of men, not just the "jerks" that they seem to choose so often. No, her preference is the jerk, which is why she keeps going back to them, which is why she keeps pining for them.
She says it is "surprising" because she "can't stand" these men.
Okay bitch, we believe you. /wink
I would prefer a partner that is kind...I just prefer spending the night with a nice guy...the only issue is that some of these nicer guys are just not great in bed
Then why doesn't this silly strumpet stick with one of those nice guys who are good in bed? I'll tell you why she won't (aside from the fact that she's fucked up (and probably fat) like most American women):
RP truth pictured here: Hypergamy
She thinks that the next one will give her everything. Sure Barry is a nice guy and he is decent in bed but what if she is settling? What if the next guy is nice AND blows her socks off? Too bad for this bottom-tier bitch that she likes to intentionally choose men who treat her like shit.
I know the ideal solution is to find someone who is kind and good in bed, but that hasn't happened so far
RP truth pictured here: Self-delusion
RP truth pictured here: false-chastity
She begins with an outright lie. She says that it "hasn't happened so far" but let's activate the Way-Back MachineTM and look at something else from her post:
some of these nicer guys are just not great in bed
What she is doing here is lying to herself to maintain the image that she isn't a girl who just likes to get her guts turned into soup by the most alpha dick she can get her hands on. Even after admitting that she has been going hard on the carousel, there is a part of her that has to project this image of a woman who "just happens to accidentally and in no way having to do with her" wind up in bad situations but she is really in her heart-of-hearts looking for a good man.
[–]Jihocech_Honza 36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
looking for a good man
I hope she will never find him. She will destroy his life (and life of their children).
[–]I-am-the-lulAll Ass No Stick 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As long as she maintains those super-high standards, she will remain single, the only way a woman over 30 can get married (Meghan Markle is the extreme exception, not the rule) is by lowering her standards enough that guys desperate enough to wife up post-wall women have a chance to make one of the biggest mistakes a man can do in the modern age.
[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It isn't even that hard really. If you're a woman over 30, you can get married if you do the following:
But they won't do that.
[–]givemethatrandom 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This man here deconstructing posts with surgical precision.
[+]KptHolera -19 points-18 points-17 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Dude, calm down. This woman admits she doesn't look for a relationship and she does casual sex. That is already a big piece of honesty as from a woman. Let's enjoy it.
From my experience, the thing which makes the biggest difference in sex satisfaction for women is: if the man is beta or alpha. The overall vibe, style and confidence work wonders. And let's assume the male population consists of: 90% betas, 9% asshole alphas, 1% good alphas. Then I'm not surprised she hasn't met a good alpha even if she's been hooking up with a different dude every week for several months.
What she says is true and obvious. The problem is she is oblivious to reasons why this happens. She wonders why all these beta men aren't managing (enterprising), successful, confident men, and then she's gonna go vote for socialist parties. And make the world scream all the time: "you don't have to be managing and successful, the state will take care of you!" So why would men be successful? Or with the current insane level of taxes, how does it come men can't fulfill the women's fantasy of providers? Next problem is women and governments and media have been telling men to be more feminine for decades. Women looked at their dating experience (and who approaches women? alphas mostly) and said "most of them are assholes! we need to make men more gentle". So majority of men, the 90% betas, listened and became even more gentle. The 9% assholes didn't listen. Surprise.
[–]12inchbamboo 25 points26 points27 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This response is the perfect example that is is never their fault... Always men fault..
[–]Master_Shitshow 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Ok Sr White Knight. Has she texted you back yet?
[–]KptHolera -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
xD
[–]I-am-the-lulAll Ass No Stick 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1% good alphas
Those 1% Good Alphas have in all likelihood being snatched up by smarter women who didn't wait until the Wall looms to start looking for their dream husband.
[–]Joaquino7997 73 points74 points75 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's great that she's had a 'I've seen the light' moment, but it's far too late. She belongs to the game, now....the 'Game of Tyrones.'
[–]Extra_Fondant_8855Wahmyns 58 points59 points60 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She needs neither a nice guy or a jerk, she needs to find a good therapist.
[–]Jihocech_Honza 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She needs some real struggle in life - war, poverty, famine, earthquake... This shit always happen when people live too safe and comfortable.
[–]high_sauce 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She also needs good strong psychoactive drugs, electrocution shocks and a father figure. This one is lost but she will eventually bring down a couple of betas with her.
[–]panzer22222 52 points53 points54 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
The 'nice guys' and jerks are doing exactly the same sexy stuff in bed, the difference is she knows she is nothing but a worthless f toy and the jerks validate this.
[–]yellomachineOh shit, it's the current year already? 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But the nice guys "make her feel less empty.."
Just avoid these damaged thots.
[–]LongLive-Employment 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Sorry but you are totally wrong. the words if the prophet 50cent . I'm into having sex, I ain't into making love
Nice guys make love -a lot of girls dont like that
[–]BrolyParagus 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Shit man what the fuck am I supposed to do? I'm no beta and always strive to be more masculine but I also doubt I'm alpha level. Do you have any tips or anything I should look out for?
[–]KptHolera 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Don't do submissive things like "sit on my face" or lick her. Be confident and dominant (ofc these things come with experience). Communicate with her (that is very important!). Speak with her after sex, what did each of you like. Be cool, not excited; especially during conversations. The YT channel sexplanations is good.
And I think the most easy way to have great results is to have sex with the same woman multiple times. During first time she gains trust for you. Then you add more and more dominant elements. That way she knows you won't harm her while you dominate her.
[–]BrolyParagus 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have no interest in licking pussy in the first place so I have that going for me. "Be cool, not excited" this is very good advice and I know the reasons why.
Your last advice is really good, and I appreciate it because I'm not interested in polygamy. I very much believe in monogamy.
Thanks a lot!
[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh I definitely eat pussy.
But here's the thing - I do it on my terms. For example, I had a nice night out with a woman and - in the parking lot - I lifted her skirt and ate her for a bit then stopped, slapped her ass, and said "okay, we can go inside now."
My terms, not hers.
[–]MrNeurotypicalBiddy Busting Big Brain 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
stick your finger in her ass
[–]LongLive-Employment -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Hey man don’t worry- I was there too. All of us were. The idea of slapping a womans face while fucking her seemed abusive to me. But some love it when done right. I’m not sure if awalt but the ones I’m getting are.
Probably the best way to up your level - is go for a woman with a lower value than you. One that chases you. You aren’t that into her, so who cares if she leaves.
Fuck her ruthlessly, finger her g spot till she squirts, hold her down throw her around and see how she reacts. Usually you get encouraged by her.
As you get positive reinforcement for fucking like this - it gets easier.
Dont fuck like they say publicly, gentle and loving, take the red pill and own her.
[–]BrolyParagus -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm always going for a woman with a lower value than me. She has to look up to me obviously.
But yeah I'll take initiative and try to be more ruthless and more dominant. Thanks man.
[–]high_sauce 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It sounds like a disaster can happen with you mate. Calm down, put yourself ALWAYS in the first spot. Train, eat well, focus on your life goals and don't chase the golden vagine. The force is strong in you, I can feel it.
[–]BrolyParagus 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lmao. I tried to just thank the dude for at least replying, because already when he said "who cares if she leaves" that would mean I'd be a fuckboy, which I don't want to be. So I just nodded and moved on.
I work out and I always try to improve myself, both physically and mentally. Once I do have a gf tho, I'll probably just stop frequenting subs like these and just live in the moment. Not necessarily saying that this sub is bad or anything obviously, I just won't need it.
I appreciate your last sentence man, I really want to be the best version of myself and be someone that people would be proud of. You also seem to be strong and actually have a purpose.
Oh and another thing, I did calm down compared to the beginning of the year, and don't have much interest in sex for now, at least before marriage. I live in a conservative country so it's safer to get married there. Obviously wouldn't get married if I was in the US. But we'll see. I just hope the girl I'll date actually has good values and is a good person :/ that's what worries me most atm.
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[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™[M] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Does it really matter whether or not that's a true statement?
Why does it matter?
[–]CSM_PepperMike Judge was an optimist 47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If a woman can't find her own clit, how the hell does she expect some guy to do so? What is this, an Easter egg hunt?
[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have to search many fat folds on her body before finding holy clit.
[–]kadams3 41 points42 points43 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women are 50% of the sexual act, but they take 0% of the blame when it's not great.
A lot of women are shit at sex, and we all know it. But men are so thirsty sometimes we just put up with this shit.
[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I sure don't feel impelled to make much an effort beyond getting mine if a woman is a deadfish. And I shouldn't have to carry both halves of a sexual conversation.
[–]op_mindcrime 31 points32 points33 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
But I thought that women said that men need to take on more feminine attributes.....whaaaaa?
[–]OwenWentFullMGTOW 19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
They mean that "husband material" men do. But Chad needs to stay alpha af.
[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So she can have hot steamy sex on downlow before coming home to boring dependable husband.
[–]PsychologicalLab6037 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go check out r/Adultery. Its full of women doing exactly that.
That's absolutely accurate.
The easiest fucks I've ever had weren't single women - they were women in relationships who got bored with their husbands/boyfriends and just wanted a man to treat them like shit and abuse them sexually.
And no, I don't feel bad about it. Their hypergamy isn't going to be cured by my moral compass - they will just seek out other dick.
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But women continue to lie point-blank when talking to a "nice guy" about it
[–]TraksimussJr. Hamster Analyst 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If womans mouth is moving, she is lying.
[–]Land_of_the_Losersthe-niceguy.com 22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, it's almost as if you can't expect another human being to perfectly and thrillingly fulfill your every wildest fantasy every hour of every day. Especially when you are not perfect yourself. And if you think such a person exists, as soon as they do something non-thrillingly human (like fart in bed or disappoint you in a completely mundane way) your fragile adoration of them will be dashed to smithereens because it's been built on a mirage.
I'd even swear there's a life lesson in there somewhere, but that's surely the twisted bastard in me who's talking.
[–]UltimaterializerX 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are plenty of good-looking nice guys who are good in bed. They’re just smart enough to not need dating apps and most are married long before 30.
aka, she’s lying
[–]IComplimentYourPet 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I mean.. the complaints that the commenter made could easily be solved by patience, conversation, understanding and guidance. Motherfuckers aren’t mind readers, if you want something different say something wtf.
[–]OverkillengineCasts Pearls to the Swine 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But then Princess would have to make an effort!
[–]givemethatrandom 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Nothing to see here 😭🤣 Where's the guy who analyzes the post and describes which redpill tenets are being affirmed?
[–]goodmansaysfuckyouBig 🍆 energy misogynist 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Meh. He has been busy translating thotenese all day. Try again in the morning, maybe he will show up.
[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've been in the gym and with my boy
[–]RealisticFish9522 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Who
[–]LongLive-Employment 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Corn in your pussy
[–]RealisticFish9522 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Love corn on the cob
[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But have you ever had it in your pussy?
🤣
[–]TranquilBiscuit 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At least she's honest about it. I look forward to seeing her here again in a few years
[–]Quick_Feeling_4949 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Confessions of a Thot: Chapter 1
[–]Special-Armadillo-99 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Chapter 69
[–]PsychologicalLab6037 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Chapter 272 "I think his name was Chad".
Chapter 273 "This guy was called Space".
Chapter 274 "Tyrone from back in high school".
Chapter 275 "Another Tinder guy".
Chapter 276 "BFF's boyfriend".
Chapter 277 "My new Sugar Daddy".
[–]coloradocaniacnot leaving this world by being squished 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Orrrrrrr you could try to talk to the kind guys about what it is that they're lacking and see if they'd respond to some coaching and education.
Clearly communication can't help, right?
[–]Land_of_the_Losersthe-niceguy.com 20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
you could try to talk to the kind guys about what it is that they're lacking
No-- they should already be better without her needing to say or do anything. They should just become way better, better in bed, better-looking, richer, taller, better car, better everything-- all automatically! Just like how the thermostat should go up or down depending on how you feel about the temperature, but without you twisting the dial up or down because then that would mean the thermostat isn't "the one true thermostat" who really knows your soul inside and out.
The universe really ought to respond to your most subtle and innermost mood changes, you know.
[–]coloradocaniacnot leaving this world by being squished 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I'll never forget this arrogant bitch I met on POF.
Average at best, demanded to be touched certain ways and on certain parts of her body.
Never did she once speak about how she liked touching guys or anything of the sort.
Still, you had to be aggressive but not too aggressive and blah blah blah...
I know, I know, I'm surprised too, but last I knew she was still single.
And of course, she blames guys for her "being too assertive" and "scaring guys off."
Can't be your own selfishness, JT.
Can't be how you want ice but you want it deep fried but you also want it to be roses but also poison ivy.
The thing about dating profiles, btw: I can't honestly remember a truly fulfilling conversation I've had on them.
It's all so banal.
[–]Jihocech_Honza 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
be touched certain ways and on certain parts of her body
Saga Noren?
[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is a flaw in your thinking.
See, you think like a man. You're accustomed to building, growing, and developing. If you see a problem, you try to fix it. If you have a problem, you work on it.
Think like a woman.
A woman doesn't want to think about the work that goes into anything - she wants the finished product. She doesn't want to grow with a man and develop with him - she wants him ready-made. A woman doesn't want a man who has to learn how to make her cum... She wants a man who can just do it without having to communicate or learn.
[–]coloradocaniacnot leaving this world by being squished 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Silly me. Fixing problems is for LVM! or something.
[–]ONEJOHNSON 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Well her ability to pair bond has been flushed down the toilet..
[–]Pimp87Pumped up for the Pussy Carnival 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You mean “swallowed”
[–]ONEJOHNSON 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Touché
[–]djc_tech 11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I’m going to say this and I’ll get hate - if you want sex you have to be an asshole. One sign of weakness or you need something they’re gone. Then they cry and move on to the next asshole, trust me. I can tell you two stories of guys who either had a father die or went to the hospital with and unrecoverable illness and we’re dumped.
I got dumped via text while I was 1500 miles away tending to a sick relative! That’s when I realized women don’t care about your issues or your struggles. Why should you care about theirs?
[–]mackblensa 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This right here.
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[–]frog_man_jones 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
“Nice guys” don’t understand that they should be assertive and control their aggression. Women like men who are strong or character, and that is achieved by a delicate balance between being a bit of a jerk and a pushover. I think a lot of the r/niceguys don’t understand that women don’t want kindness, they want a balance between aggression and kindness, and an ability of the man to show aggression when it is warranted.
[–]The_Meep_Lord 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People do not value kindness at all really.
It is the sprinkles on the cake at best, but usually it is just a neutral trait.
However, they like the results that kind/good/real men provide. That is why ignorant men get so confused.
They love men becoming real men so they can exploit them, but they do not love the real men themselves. They love the asshole as a person.
[–]givemethatrandom 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think a lot of the r/niceguys don’t understand that women don’t want kindness, they want a balance between aggression and kindness, and an ability of the man to show aggression when it is warranted.
I'd daresay this also applies to men in regard as to which men they respect, which is why I think male characters in movies/anime that are kind but can show agression and protect his family/friends when the situation needs it is such a popular trope. For example, John Wick in the John Wick movies. Similarly, the man that comes out as an asshole to outsiders but who protect those whom he loves and cherish. One example of this is the character Guts in the manga/anime Bersek.
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with the whole sentiment here. My beef is with how some chicks think they can flip a switch on or off. Some don't use communication skills, and put the onus all on the man when he doesn't change his character at a moment's notice.
If a guy causally steps over previous boundaries within the personal dynamic, and doesn't communicate at all before hand, she can look forward to him assertively doing whatever he wants in the future without asking her. That's arrogant confidence, which can be super attractive in some fantasy situations, but that doesn't make for a good long term relationship of most any kind: friend, lover, coworker, or otherwise. Methinks confidence without communication is arrogance. Such a person may do things for you without asking, but if they don't communicate and make moves in your life without knowing what you want, that can quickly get wierd, no matter whether the person is your lover or just a friend.
[–]sleepyhousewifeWahmyns 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd pay to be a roach on the wall of her apartment for one night. I'd be eating the left overs of the "meal for one" packages on the counter, as I watch her have a complete meltdown over her life choices.
[–]peguy2000 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And later she will call herself narc abuse survivor lol
[–]umockdev 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If only the 'nice' guys would get a chance to improve their bedroom skills... I wonder how that could possibly be achieved? /s
Seriously, where does she think great bedroom skills come from? Give an inexperienced guy a chance and build up the skills together. Bonus: You get the chance to perfectly mold the skills in a way that would benefit you best.
But I guess long-term thinking is not their strong suit.
[–]CaringVisual 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
What does rhythm even mean? And why are nice ppl seemingly bad at sex lol?
[–]saberwarthog 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well, first : a "nice guy" usually doesn't have the experience of a "jerk" on the old "sliding sausage workout", I mean it's hard to get good at something when you have to battle odds akin to winning the lottery first just to get to it...
Second : It seems quite rare that a woman like this is able to simply understand that she had to participate in the act here, not just laying on her back & waiting for an orgasm... Communication could helps a lot from what I understood from the sidelines.
Third : are those "jerks" really better at sex or just able to give her tingles to the point that -on the spot- she doesn't care about getting an orgasm ? The number of time I've heard a woman complaining of a "jerk" ex that was in fact unable to make her come is quite high... (although it could simply be a way to dis an ex, that's a common low denominator insult from some women : when you can't say something bad about someone, put him low on the only value scale you ever had...)
[–]Jihocech_Honza 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
are those "jerks" really better at sex
The sex act is mainly done in womans head/brain. I remember an article about fucking an extraordinary fit and handsome guy. She said she was so aroused that she orgasmed immediately when he penetrated her.
[–]LongLive-Employment 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The same reason 50 shades gets them wet. They like to be dominated. Made to feel small and powerless. Held down wile your wild animal self “takes” them.
[–]Jihocech_Honza 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Made to feel small and powerless
And in 20 years cry "metoo".
[–]KptHolera 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, look for "red pill" on YT.
[–]Snoo16680 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Since when does the badguys find the clit ?
"Find the clit" is starting to mean "makes me orgasm"..
[–]partsunknown99 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Inb4 I cheated on my husband thread...
[–]Nerdialismo 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
And we are the ones who boil down relationships to just sex.
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[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
We don't shame men here bro
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[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Don't try to walk it back. We see between the lines here.
Just admit you fucked up and move on.
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Call me more names. Just shows who you are.
Our interaction is done at this point.
[–]NickTesla2018Built his own hamster wheel 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Tingles! The Tingles! A nice guy doesn't get them wet.
[–]HonoluluLion 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
dealing with women for 25 years has made me bicurious lol. It's difficult to deal with their bs and shit tests nowadays
[–]khillik 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nice/good men are bad at sex because they don't get too much practice until their 30's generally.
[–]Chgralac73 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the one way to make a women go nuclear is to remind her humans are animals. they just hate to acknowledge that. tell them about hormones, genetics and stuff like that and they just go crazy at you
here you can see that this woman is completely delusional. what she is saying is that sex is for her more than relationship. so degrading sex has more value to her than a relationship
[–]silly_birbJr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe she has abandonment issues and being mistreated by men turns them on more.
[–]BlogginginvicecitySr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Without patience and vetting, the hypergamy spirals up and out of control.
[–]Enough-Staff-2976 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only certainties are death, taxes, and the fact that she'll be unmarried at 45.
[–]wathon2Sr. Hamster Analyst 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Any man that decides to get marry these days, these are the kind of women you are marrying.
[–]yomo86 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why is sex with jerks per se better? Bingo, besides the whole tingles stuff, jerks go for their own pleasure and so should all of the guys. Coming to early after 10 minutes is not a shame when you nailed her like crazy and she swallowed. No matter what your personality is, lust and desire create hot moments not kindness and caring.
[–]downzeitor 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
An Alpha Widow looking for a Poindexter to be like a Chad.
Double mating following her "tingles".
[–]justaguy529 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is what every woman means when she say's she's single. she's been riding the tinder carousel.
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[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™[M] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Don't ever ask for that again.
[–]Corn_in_your_pussyJr. Hamster Analyst 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What is "things I said to my ex" for $400 Alex
[–]Askdrillsarge -4 points-3 points-2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
“Can‘t find the clit”
It isn’t that difficult, I just use my mouth, works every time.
[–]loneliness-incLvL 99 Rogue NiceGuy™ 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What's your broader point?
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[–]illhaveubent 15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago* (38 children) | Copy Link
Imagine living with a person like this lmfao. Absolute degenerate tier trash.
Just look at the post history on this creature. A literal crackhead whore. Line right up boys this one is a keeper.
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[–]illhaveubent 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
She doesn't realize Men are the gatekeepers of relationships. She thinks commitment will be as easy to secure as meaningless sex. We will see her here again as she approaches the wall and starts asking the inevitable questions.
[–]illhaveubent 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Again, I'm talking about you, not OP. Imagine taking dating advice from a crackhead whore.
[–]illhaveubent 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
If you're a man I feel bad for you. You have the worldview of a corner prostitute. I suspect this is due to the lack of a father figure in your life.
My advice is to grow the fuck up, cut out the cocaine and quit simping. None of that is attractive to Men or Women.
Good luck, you are going to need it.
[–]illhaveubent 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have "great women" in your life... Yet everything you've posted demonstrates you have little understanding of what that actually is.
You are literally the last person I would take advice from on this matter. You need to pull your shit together.
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[–]Takkune 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
On mobile so I hope this works but I posted about this sentiment a few days ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen/comments/nylq99/z/h1m66g0
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[–]si91si91 7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
If female sexual pleasure is so important, then it would seem that it would be her responsibility to communicate to her partner as to what she wants, rather than saying "that's on them" and expecting him to magically be good at it.
[–]si91si91 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No one is "compatible from day one." All relationships require growth and shaping over time. If you're constantly rejecting decent partners because they aren't perfect, and you're too lazy to mould a decent partner into an excellent one, you're letting the perfect be the enemy of the good, and are likely to end up alone because you keep thinking there's someone perfect out there.
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[–]si91si91 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If you're too lazy or entitled to coach because your partner isn't at an "appropriate," pre-existing level of experience, then you don't deserve a partner.
[–]Takkune 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"We aren't talking long term partners here" is the problem I'm seeing. The post I linked you goes over some off the cuff stats based on what I know and filling in some minor gaps between.
If your idea is to find that spark first your pool of potential partners significantly decreases.
Also, I would think it's easier to turn the "nice guy" into an enthusiastic sexual partner (because it's more fun!) than turn the sexually satisfying bad boy into a provider (because that's not fun!) At least, I've had enough friends and seen enough posts of women lamenting how they can't kick their attractive boyfriend into gear to draw at least that half of the equation.
Additionally, using just myself as an example, I didn't have casual sex growing up. So I probably don't know what "good sex" is but what I can tell you is my husband and I have good sex because it comes from a sense of love and trust we've built together over the years.
Of course, you're free to do what yoh want but I think what you want is statically improbable. It's like playing blackjack hoping the next round you'll score big. I hope you don't make the mistake of getting a big pot and betting it all again hoping for a bigger one just to go bust.
[–]illhaveubent 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm talking about you hon. Frankly you sound disgusting. I wouldn't touch you with a 10ft pole, nevermind befriend you or date you. What you will find in life is meaningless sex and nothing more.
Mind if I ask what you bring to the table? All those things you listed yourself?
[–]Takkune 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hard for men to get practice when women won't even give them the time of day.
Also, I lost your comment about this kind of behavior being safe and healthy - it's not.
You say "it's not 1950 anymore! Times have changed!" The last 70 years is hardly a drop in the bucket compared to the millions of years of human evolution etched into our DNA. If this behavior was safe and healthy then polygamy would be much more prevelant in our society. Don't get me wrong! It is in some places! Places that typically have a male leader with multiple wives. Is that what you want? Because I don't think that will work in a free society. The men who aren't leaders will stop doing the grunt work (who can blame them?) What then? The women will do the grunt work? Or, ask the leader to take care of all his women equally? Fat chance. He'll take care of the one or few he really likes and we've just come back around to the reality of what we're facing now.
[–]si91si91 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
By that logic, what does constitutes slutty behavior, if not one night stands? Moreover, if she isn't getting what she wants sexually from her partner, why isn't it on her to communicate exactly what she wants? How exactly is a "nice guy" supposed to "take responsibility" and "not suck at sex" and "get better" without feedback from his partner as to what works and what does not? Is he supposed to be a mind reader, or born with innate sexual talent? What exactly is wrong with coaching and communicating with your partner to help them with this?
You're not making any sense. If you aren't sexually satisfying your partner, of course, it's their responsibility to communicate that if they want the sexual relationship to continue. How is one's own sexual gratification somehow someone else's responsibility? If they refuse to communicate, they have no business whining about an inadequate sexual experience. If you are in a sexual relationship with someone, you owe it to them to communicate any dissatisfaction with it - all relationships require proper communication.
The idea that that people are just supposed to use body language when they have perfectly functioning powers of speech is laughable. In no other form of miscommunication would that make sense, so why does it apply here? When you have a disagreement with someone, do you use sign language to resolve it?
As far as sluttiness is concerned, you act like it's somehow wrong to put women down for slutty behavior or want it controlled. Sexual promiscuity of this sort is bad for everyone - men, women, children, and society because it leads to everything from mental health issues, to STDs and unwanted pregnancy. I don't see what's wrong with putting down women who engage in it of their own choice, any more than there's something wrong with putting down or controlling alcoholism, drug use, obesity, and any other form of self-destructive self-indulgence. There is no excuse for self-destructive behavior and no reason for society to mollycoddle those who engage in it.
No matter which way you slice it, your sexual gratification is your responsibility. No one else's. If you're unwilling to do something as basic as communicating with your partner about it, you don't deserve to have a partner.
All of the negative behaviors I mentioned are objectively bad for your health. Drugs being illegal is harmful in its own way, but the reason drugs are illegal is because of the immense damage that they do to people's health, families, and society, and a blanket prohibition is (erroneously) seen as the best way to mitigating the damage. As far as STDs and unwanted pregnancies are concerned, people who engage in promiscuous behaviors tend not to be interested in using protection to begin with. If they were, they'd probably be monogamous. Moreover, not all STDs can be prevented by using protection. Herpes and genital warts are two examples. And that's not even taking into consideration the mental health consequences of sexual promiscuity, something no condom or IUD can prevent.
People in this thread are saying things like “men are the gate keepers of relationships” because they are. Sex doesn't happen unless women want it to happen. This is because it is much harder for a man to seduce a woman than it is for a woman to seduce a man, as men have the higher sex drive. However, relationships don't happen unless a man decides that he wants more than just sex from a woman. The same level of shaming is not applied to men because men and women are different. Women themselves are drawn to men who engage in sexually promiscuous behavior. That's why male womanizers exist, but female "womanizers" are just called sluts - men tend not to be interested in sexually promiscuous women for anything serious.
Shaming women for certain actions is indeed just a method of control and trying to decide what’s ok and not ok for them to do - and that's perfectly fine. Women who engage in self-destructive behavior deserve to be judged for the choices they freely made.
[–]si91si91 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The reason sexually promiscuous behavior is bad for women's mental health is because they feel used and discarded. Women release more oxytocin during sexual intercourse than men do, and oxytocin is the hormone that causes pair bonding. When men dump them, they are heartbroken because of the attachments that oxytocin makes them form. Moreover, sexual promiscuity increases the likelihood of abusive behavior, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, STDs, and other problems that can affect mental health, and have nothing to do with social judgement. Indeed, social condemnation of sexual promiscuity exists precisely because it causes all of these problems. This social taboo didn't just arise from the ether. We know that sexual promiscuity causes damage in and of itself because we see that the damage occurs even now, in our "sexually liberated" world, in the absence of a societal taboo on the subject.
There is indeed a right way to do this - that is, the way that causes the least damage for everyone involved. Promiscuity is almost never the way that causes the least harm. "Old fashioned" values exist for a reason: they work. Otherwise, they would have been discarded long ago. People are indeed free to do as they please, but they are no exempt from the consequences of the decisions they freely chose, and that includes slut-shaming and other forms of social condemnation, not to mention the inherently damaging effects of promiscuity, even without slut shaming.
[–]Pimp87Pumped up for the Pussy Carnival 5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You can read but clearly not getting the message. OP is jumping attracted to jerks and their sex. Keyword, jerk, in her own words. No one above said she shouldn’t. Almost everyone is saying she should not make it everyone’s problem when the bad outcome creeps in which deep down you know yourself it will be a societies problem when that bastard child is born. And yes I have a problem with it when someone who makes poor choices don’t take personal responsibility for it. She is entitled to even bang dogs if she wishes but take responsibility of any negative outcome from it. She is not entitled to good sex from good men. Every man and woman are entitled to what they want and if thay means a man doesn’t want to be good in bed, it’s his own right not to be and who are you to tell him to be? Or be a jerk? Yuck. You seem to encourage women making bad choices, I wonder if you also help absolve them of the responsibility. There you have it. Corrected the misunderstanding 😉
[–]Pimp87Pumped up for the Pussy Carnival 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are basically saying things no one else said, are we in the same conversation or? Never said she is blaming anyone. I said, she better be ready to take responsibility for her choices. Read all again. I can’t go back and forth 😁
[–]Takkune 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry to burst your bubble but the definition of "slut" is a woman who has many casual sexual relations so, while having a single one night stand may not make a slut, having many of them does. And it sounds like this woman is doing exactly that.
It's not anyone's responsibility to teach the "nice guy" how to be good at sex? Sure. And it should be no one's responsibility to take care of a down and out woman who can't make a stable happy life for herself. Oh wait...
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