Makes sense 😅

window_licker84 · 2020-06-16T13:11:42+00:00

I get it now. “Take things slowly” means no sex. Chad doesn’t have to take things slowly only the serious betas.

KneeDeepThought · 2020-06-16T13:22:17+00:00

And one day he'll find out being "special" means getting strung along and manipulated while the guys she bitches about got the hot kinky stuff on day one. Then she'll be surprised when he drops her like a hot rock for her mistreatment, not learn a thing, and lather rinse and repeat.

Aldabruzzo · 2020-06-16T19:46:22+00:00

Just going to post this up here and sticky it for a while.

A couple of people here said "but it doesn't say she HASN'T had sex with him. She just said she didn't want to rush into anything emotionally. She didn't say she hasn't had sex with him."

People, people, people.

Sigh.

Read between the lines.

Whenever a woman wants to wait for sex with a man, it's because she isn't really all that into him and she's sizing him up for commitment.

Whenever a woman says she doesn't "want to rush into anything" and variations on that, as here ("don't want us to rush into things emotionally"), that means she is sizing the man up for commitment. She has judged him a beta bux. Beta bux guys don't get sex without offering, at the very, very least, SOME indicia of commitment.

It might or might not mean sexual attraction is there. But most of the time, attraction isn't there. That's because if sexual attraction WERE there, she'd just go ahead and fuck him even if she is also wanting commitment. There are no downsides at all to having sex. There's no reason to hesitate anymore... EXCEPT when sexual attraction is lacking or when you're being fitted for the plow harness she intends to yoke on you.

When a woman is sexually attracted to you, she doesn't hesitate. She doesn't hem and haw. She doesn't engage in internal dialogue weighing pros and cons. She will respond favorably to your advances. She will EXPECT you to make sexual advances or innuendo very rapidly, like within 15 minutes of meeting. She will EXPECT you to sexualize things immediately. Shit, she'll be offended and insulted and wonder aloud about your sexual orientation if you DON'T make a move. Women don't make you guess about how they feel about you. If she wants to fuck, she'll just fuck.

No downsides to sex anymore for women. Pregnancy? She's been sterilized or on artificial birth control. STIs?
Except herpes, they can all be avoided with condoms or cured with antibiotics. Anything you catch that can't be cured can be pharmaceutically managed to the point of asymptomaticity. Slut shaming? Hah. A thing of the past. No one cares if she sleeps with a guy in 2 hours or 2 months. even the guy she's fucking won't care. If she's valuable enough and nice enough and brings enough to the table, her fucking him early on is a bonus. I hear constantly at PPD and other places that no one ever asks women about their pasts, that men are not ALLOWED to ask a woman about her past, and that men don't believe what women say about their pasts anyway. Women lie about their pasts anyway, so there's not a lot of point in asking them.

So, gents: if she's making you wait, she's not attracted to you and she's got you shoehorned into the beta bux role. Eject eject eject.

Here's what she'll say, the "JUST DON'T" or "JUST NOT" statements"

"I just don't want to rush into anything"

"I just don't want to make any rash decisions"

"I'm just not sure yet"

"It just doesn't feel right yet"

"I just don't want to get serious"

"i just don't want to invest myself and then get hurt"

AngryCockOfJustice · 2020-06-16T13:28:31+00:00

let me get it right. Dude is not playing games but he has to play HER game which entails wasting time, impressing her and spending cash while getting a used up all jizzed pussy

MC_Batsy · 2020-06-16T13:14:14+00:00

The comment at the bottom was epic! LOL

TerpsMakeMeDrink · 2020-06-16T13:29:46+00:00

As a rule of thumb, every recently-divorced woman has more pipe laid on her than the Keystone Pipeline. Then, after taking nautical miles of cock, their pussies start to look looser than an untied crown royal bag, and they decide they want to settle back down.

shrinkshooter · 2020-06-16T13:28:49+00:00

It isn't logic at all, it's instinct. Like it or not this is another thing built in to female biological programming.

If you're on WAATGM chances are you know about the dual mating, Alpha Fucks/Beta Bucks dichotomy. Well, just like that dual mating strategy is instinctive and there from the outset, so is the instinctive understanding of how to use that strategy. The short version is this: she knows that if she sleeps with a guy "too quickly" she's unlikely to be able to keep him around, because he'll see her as a slut, and men don't commit to that. If she makes a guy wait and takes things slowly, gives in much later, she knows the man will see her as more appropriate commitment material ("it took me months to fuck her, I can't see her cheating on me easily"). Just as men can take on the "provider" frame or the "lover" frame, women can take on the "lover" frame or the "mother/partner" frame.

This instinct only exists as a reaction to men's instincts which tell us not to commit to sluts because we can't be sure that her offspring are actually ours. There's antagonistic interplay between the male instincts of what we try to get from females and female instincts of what they try to get from us. You may then ask "well, if she makes you wait because she wants your commitment, why doesn't she make Chad wait? Isn't his commitment more valuable?" Yes and no. It would be, but despite much of the shit you see on this sub about overinflated senses of women's self-worth, even they instinctively understand when a guy is clearly out of their league. If they're a 6/10 and they have a shot with a 10/10, they have two choices as just described: give up sex quickly and satisfy the Alpha Fucks prerogative, or roll the dice and make Chad wait for sex and see if that makes him want to commit. He won't, because Chad has options, and she knows this, so she doesn't bother making him wait; better to get his fucks than to gamble and lose everything when he decides enough is enough and he'll get his rocks off with someone else.

escailer · 2020-06-16T15:12:00+00:00

I had a version of this happen to me many years ago. It still makes me shudder a little to this day to think about who I was back then.

Started dating this girl I met online, on Yahoo Personals if you want to guess my advanced age. We went out a couple times; nice late-college style dates. Like 4 dates in and we hadn’t even kissed and definitely hadn’t had sex. One night when I drop her off I bring up the “hey we’ve been going out for a bit but no interaction, do you even like me” conversation. She tells me that because she really likes me, she wants to take it slow with me.

Usually she just hooks up with a guy whenever she can, but with me wants to make it special. I go home the combination of angry and depressed we all know too well. I feel worthless but at the same time happy that I am one of the “good guys” that girls want to pursue relationships with.

Not long after, she tells me a story about when she lived in Alaska. She and this guy she thought was hot were driving back from another town late at night on a windy road. She decided it would be funny to just start blowing him right there in the car to try to distract him while he was driving. Smash cut to quite soon after when we are starting to heat things up back at my place. I hint that I would love to “see if she could distract me” or something I’m sure I thought was clever at the time. She then informs me that she no longer likes going down on guys. She had some ex that took a long time to finish that way and so she decided she didn’t want to do it anymore. But, she did conveniently wait until I had finished going down on her to tell me this.

Needless to say, I did not break up with her. She tossed me aside a few months later when she was ready to move on.

My life is night and day different now than I was then, and communities like these are a big part of that. This sub obviously is on the cynical end of the spectrum, and at this point about as much humor as serious. But the community you guys have built here, the standards you are teaching—these are really critical and life-saving things.

And if anyone is interested: she is still single now closing in on 40, never married, and the wall hit her like a nuclear bomb going off.

UltimaterializerX · 2020-06-16T13:58:33+00:00

So the guy she cares about has to work for what other guys got for free.

Zombeflandrs · 2020-06-16T14:18:44+00:00

One girl tried this with me and wanted me to work for it while other guys didnt have to. I explained to her that pussy is what keeps me around and interested. If I dont get that in a timely manner I move on. We were smashing the next day😏

goodmansaysfuckyou · 2020-06-16T13:39:59+00:00

What she really meant to say is:

"What's the best way to keep him on the hook and string him along while I see what other options I have before the wall wins another round, without him thinking that I am stringing him along as a wallet in a glass case?"

He doesn't treat her like a piece of ass and doesn't show her that she is unimportant to him. The only power that we have is the ability to walk away and give zero fucks about them. This guy has already sacrificed those options and her pussy dried up like it was covered in desiccant powder.

On a side note:

The guy that made the first comment:

So the "special" guy is the only one not getting sex from you? That's some weird logic.

Probably made her just as horny as the guys from her many "casual flings".

KneedHelpQuicc · 2020-06-16T15:00:57+00:00

Do women not see how it doesn’t make sense? How shit doesn’t add up? Or are they collectively purposefully missing the point?

meerita · 2020-06-16T14:04:41+00:00

It's amazing how she says "special" but at the same time, it is not. If you meet someone special, you go for it, if that person is not special, then you go slowly or you don't go. She wants the chad, she wants the rebel motard

toolate4redpill · 2020-06-16T14:25:42+00:00

Well it makes sense. When they are married sex basically slows way down or stops entirely. She's just preparing him for that.

five_eight · 2020-06-16T16:17:50+00:00

goddammit I love this sub.

Aldabruzzo · 2020-06-16T15:54:58+00:00

"I don't really like these guys or know them. But they are hot, fun, exciting, dramatic, spontaneous, and adventurous. I want to fuck, so I will have sex with those hot guys I don't know, don't like, and are not relationship material."

"I do really ~~need to use this guy for commitment and resources~~ like this guy. He's nice, kind, predictable, stable, reliable, has a good job, and will make a good father to my kids. I will make him wait for sex to make sure he will give me what I want and will put up with my shit. I will make him wait, so that I have maximum control over our interactions. Because I ~~need to use and exploit him~~ like him so much, I'll make him wait.

2020-06-16T17:32:55+00:00

And if it becomes really serious between them, the "let's take things slowly" will become "Jesus! You just think about one thing, don't you?" then "I love you but we should sleep in separate bedrooms. Here's your toothbrush".

[Edited for correction]

2020-06-16T17:12:58+00:00

Female logic. When you only have one card to play, I guess you have to be smart in how you play it. For Chad-chasers, Chad is the goal, so that card is played immediately. When it comes to other guys, the goal is stability, so women will find ways to maximize the effectiveness of sex by drawing it out and making men work for it. The important thing to consider here is women enjoy manipulation more than sex itself. Because to them sex is not about love, or even an act of maintenance, it’s just a tool they’ve been given. I always say this, women aren’t capable of love, they can’t feel something unconditionally because theirs is a conditional existence. They cannot give of themselves in service of another because that goes against their selfish, greedy natures.

Its_Me_Dio · 2020-06-16T17:23:39+00:00

They want to take it slow with the guy they like cause "They don't want to seem like a Hoe or seem like they're easy" cause they think it will make them look lesser in the eyes of the guy. Its a lie! Its manipulation! Cause you literally are a hoe who casually sleeps with other guys and you don't want the good guy to know. They are so caught up with themselves and their own needs that they don't even realise how their punishing the good guy and how backwards their thinking is.

p3ngwin · 2020-06-16T16:49:34+00:00

ah so when she wants to make progress, but if the guy doesn't want to go as fast he's "playing games" ..

... but when the other guy is not playing games and "interested" in making progress he's "too ready to jump into something serious" and she wants to slow down.

Fucking Goldilocks over here o.O

isthisthelasttime34 · 2020-06-16T19:17:10+00:00

The worst part is she will continue to string along the good guy and not have the relationship formally defined as a way to continue still being able to hook up with more casual people. And then she'll turn around and say they were never officially together so it wasn't cheating.

Sensei_Hensei · 2020-06-16T14:02:03+00:00

af bb

autonomousfailure · 2020-06-16T17:00:54+00:00

lol she doesn’t want to him go away too soon so she’s trying to keep him by depriving him of sex.

Old_snowboarder · 2020-06-16T19:21:39+00:00

'Taking it slowly' but doesn't want to play games? Isn't taking it slowly a game? Woman isn't that good at joined up thinking is she?

tyrantgrey · 2020-06-16T19:24:45+00:00

The special is the only one not getting sex. And when he waits around like a good boy, this manipulative whore will realize she can do absolutely anything to him and he will never complain.

So, obviously, she will eventually run into a chad, and give him sex immediately. And then this guy will be all, “buh buh buh, i thought if i obeyed all your rules, I’d be the only one you do that with.”

AND THEN, She will come around with, “oh I’m polyamorous,” or “cuckolding is the fetish for the intelligent.”

Only stupid people fall for women’s lies. And the only truthful women out there today, are dead.

MortemLuna · 2020-06-16T16:43:44+00:00

can you circle the comment i can't see it

sleepyweaselisawake · 2020-06-16T17:00:09+00:00

I saw this earlier! You beat me to it.

Buchwild · 2020-06-16T18:37:14+00:00

Ban that comment for hate speech, how dare he be honest

roughback · 2020-06-16T17:25:06+00:00

reminds me of megan good

https://nypost.com/2016/01/28/why-meagan-good-became-a-born-again-virgin/

NickTesla2018 · 2020-06-16T19:01:47+00:00

Classic. Make the simp wait while riding the baloney pony with Chad / Tyrone. I wonder how many dinners the simp needs to pay for?

I don't date any more. Problem solved.

mysterywaffle · 2020-06-16T20:32:28+00:00

Wait so I’ve seen this one before. She doesn’t want him to think she’s a slut for putting out too quick but she’ll give up to anyone else without any second thought.

tosernameschescksout · 2020-06-17T02:16:01+00:00

Classic mating strategy. This needs to be enshrined forever. It's gold. So many women do EXACTLY this, especially after a breakup. Everybody needs to understand it, and they need to know what it's like for the men in that situation.

She's fucking everybody, serious with none because she just got out of a serious relationship and needs.... what, fuck therapy? She's literally using men. Maybe some of those men just want 'flings', but some of them are going to feel used by her cavalier behavior. She's in the mode where she's hunting for men that aren't serious so she can ride the cock carousel. At the same time, she treats all men the same, and creates a self fulfilling prophecy that all men are the same. No, they're not all the same, YOU created that.
She's in that damaged emotional state that women put themselves in after a breakup where they "aren't ready for another relationship." Then she finally meets someone she wants to hold on to, and is afraid of fucking him because she doesn't want to be a sexual conquest, she wants to be a partner. She doesn't want all men to be the same. Again, I must repeat that she created that situation. She was treating THEM as disposable, not the other way around.

She's rebounding all over the court like a ball in a basketball game at a Summer camp for kids with down syndrome.

Women live fast and loose for decades, then they want to settle down... but when they do that, they find a nice guy and absolutely refuse to have sex, absolutely refuse to let it be serious, intimate, or close... and they don't know how much that works against them.

That guy is eventually going to move on, and she will have lost something she treasured. He is going to resent the fact that she fucked hundreds of other men, but won't be close to him and denies him that kind of a relationship. She's literally telling him that he isn't good enough. All the other men are better. Women never understand that part. She is friendzoning the one guy she DOESN'T want to be friends with, and she's increasingly terrified of losing him as the relationship builds more value.

So the relationship builds more value, and the stakes are higher. Now she can't fuck him at all until they're married. She needs assurances. She's afraid that she is a sexual conquest, not a lover.

Right around this point, something happens. She's been smashing her 'neurotic' button like a drug addict with a heroine drip. She's been smashing that button nonstop. Something has got to give. That guy is finally going to make a move, and she's going to freak the fuck out. "What kind of a woman do you think I am?" "Ah, it was always only about sex with you, I knew it!!! You don't love me!"

She's going to flip out in a way that only women do. She's going to sabotage the relationship. She'll drop accusations. She'll insult the guy. She'll push him away. And in the middle of this neurotic frenzy, she won't have any self awareness of consequences. So... she loses the guy. He bails out of a burning plane. She spends a few night crying into her pillow, completely unable to make sense of her own irrational behavior and what just happened.

She will then dry her eyes, tell herself that she's just not ready for another relationship, and go right back to step one of this process, which is fucking a LOT of random men.

How's that working out for ya?

Later, she'll find another guy she wants to keep, and she will let the same god damn thing happen again.

Women magically become prudes when they want to keep a guy, but they often overplay their position. When a woman flips the fuck out and is totally irrational, it's often because she's buggered up with confusion and internal conflict. They're playing a false position, and they don't know how long to keep it but they're terrified of loss if they actually fuck you.

Most of the times you THINK you got a new girlfriend... it was just your turn while she's out there fucking as MANY men as she possibly can during that time when she's between serious relationships. Women are either in a dedicated relationship, they're fucking EVERYBODY, or they're considering a dedicated relationship and NOT fucking him because she wants him... which makes no fucking sense, but there you have it. The three relationship statuses. "It's complicated."

It's easy to be pissed off about that, but it's just human nature. Personally, I'm out. I'm MGTOW because I don't want to put up with neurotic, illogical bullshit and lies. I've met very few honest women in my life. Very few can be honest with themselves, let alone with others. They are mostly confused and conflicted, and in denial of their hypergamy. They can't reconcile with that or grow beyond it.

chalulin · 2020-06-16T20:43:22+00:00

So she's saving up her 90th virginity for this poor shmuck.

Sumfuc · 2020-06-16T22:00:28+00:00

The only tingles she gets from this guy is his wallet. Which she has tremendous affection for. Him...not so much.

MaloSapien · 2020-06-16T22:20:39+00:00

Had an Ex like that ... gotta boot those ones far away

RKO2685 · 2020-06-17T03:53:45+00:00

Once a guy gives off beta or provider guy vibes is over.

They always make them wait.

Billy hes ok with it cause he wants to prove hes a good man just like society taught him too.

Chad didn't have to wait for shit.

He fucked her that night in all her holes and she loved him for it.

Honestly idk why ltr or marry a woman in her 30s anyway makes no sense.

General_Blackblood · 2020-06-17T07:17:41+00:00

"He's clearly interested, there's no games (which is great!), and so I must start playing games immediately to test how interested he really is!"

Natuasi · 2020-06-17T13:50:43+00:00

Women can be so fucking disgusting. Never, ever, satisfied.

Wtfbyamey · 2020-06-17T04:07:54+00:00

Somehow magically all women want to supposedly get serious and actually wanna wait to have sex while getting in a relationship, but don’t wanna wait even few minutes while hooking up in thier 20s.. Somehow,Magically, every woman that wants to get serious is of age 30 or above And yet females cry that there’s no such power flip at 30 The wall is very real And it comes at 30 for 85% of the females

2020-06-17T07:48:03+00:00

yeah thats fucked up actually. if I like someone, i want to fuck them.

tw1nm3t30r · 2020-06-17T07:58:28+00:00

Oh yeah Chad Thundercock and his 100+ fellow jerkoff friends get it for free but genuine, modest, hardworking Steve has to earn it. "It" being strung along with empty promises of getting to fuck her used up body, spending money on meaningless crap she doesn't give two shits about and pay for dates while she is on her phone the entire fucking time. All of that to be told that she's not interested in sex or dating him anymore at that point. She then runs off to chase Chad Thundercock once again only to be treated like trash, then complains that there are no good men in the world and all men are pigs.

🙄

Mathiya · 2020-06-17T09:51:31+00:00

Sex is the only leverage she has on this nice guy, if she gives it up then what's left to take things slow for?

NegativeCollision · 2020-06-17T12:50:52+00:00

What’s special about this guy is that he’s lacking somewhere in the following criteria

•Looks •Money •Status/Social

Typo-MAGAshiv · 2020-06-16T14:21:17+00:00

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RRFdev · 2020-06-17T00:53:26+00:00

Clown world dating:

He's special, he's the one love in my life -> No sex, no affection, no return calls, no bonding, no marriage.

He's just some rando scumbag on Tinder -> Do you host?

altair43 · 2020-06-17T19:57:58+00:00

Well, she need to make sure beta can fund her after the divorce. LOL

Hakkeshu · 2020-06-20T02:50:31+00:00

This scenario happened to Tom Leykis lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFe-34B8sGY

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