Agree and Disclose

2ndal · 2019-09-09T00:47:07+00:00

definite shit tests and it sounds like you are failing them

walking away is better than engaging when you don't know how to engage, however

you need to stay one step ahead of her. don't take her questioning so seriously. who says you even have to answer it? when you know it's a shit test, treat it as such and cut it off before it even has a chance to become real. this is especially true when what she is saying contradicts her thoughts from previously. she is speaking from emotions, not logic -- always. as such, give her an emotional response, not a logical one, and you will pass the test.

her: "is that for you or him"

you: "it's to pour over his head after he scores a goal!"

Daddy_ThunderCock · 2019-09-09T00:42:31+00:00

What about this says comfort to you? Comfort she says "I feel" and shit test is "You did" All I see is normal bitchy woman behavior. Do you fuck her good? If you don't regularly fuck the crazy out of them it creates problems. You kind of sound like a pussy to me but I don't know enough about you. If you are a pussy she doesn't respect, that could be why she is acting shitty.

Also, you posting in OYS thread or just coming here and asking a bunch of dumb shit when you aren't doing the work. I bet you are fat too. You got titties?

BobbyPeru · 2019-09-09T02:25:16+00:00

Have you read any of the sidebar?

Start with “The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck” because you give way too many fucks. You are even worried about a conversation that hasn’t even happened yet.

Start ignoring her questions.... for example the question about the drink, keep heading out the door and Say “gotta run.”

What about lifting? No mention of it which usually means you’re not only unattractive due to no frame but you are probably a fattie also.

You have a long way to go. Don’t even try advanced stuff like a&a yet. Hit the gym, STFU, and quit DEERing. You are DEERing in your examples.

Oh, and they are not shit tests. They are just plain disrespect. There is a difference

Redpillbrigade17 · 2019-09-09T00:38:58+00:00

Shit tests. Classic manipulation to establish mommy’s (her) boy (you) dynamic, whether intentional or subconscious. Are you fucking her good?

InChargeMan · 2019-09-09T13:52:14+00:00

> "Is that for you or him"

Me, I'm pre-loading in preparation for the marathon fuck session tonight.

man_in_the_world · 2019-09-09T02:50:01+00:00

Amused Mastery with a relaxed "father knows best" feel is my go-to in these situations. I don't let the insecurity, anxiety, and emotions of my wife or anyone else affect my frame or my confidence in the shit that I own.

[deleted] · 2019-09-09T02:05:05+00:00

Your opinion has been duly noted, then do what you want.

IRunYourRiver · 2019-09-09T03:33:09+00:00

Look, you are the captain. What's your opinion of Propel? That's the right opinion. Not sure? Do some homework and decide. How do you know when the house is cleaned up after a party? Because you decided it was done. Think more needs to be done? Then do it.

At the very early stages, passing a shit test can be as simple as acting like you didn't hear a word she said. Double points for maintaining a shit-eating grin while you do so.

Sepean · 2019-09-09T05:31:00+00:00

So it's clearly some sort of test.

Yep. Clear shit tests.

It doesn't feel right for me to agree and amplify here or in any of these negative responses.

Look inside yourself, why don’t they feel right? What you’ll likely find is that you care what she thinks. You’re in her frame.

Her tests are supposed to test that. A weak framed faggot will find it important to explain to her why you do what you. Someone with strong doesn’t give a fuck if he makes sense or if she understands him.

This is what you’re trying to convey with your answer, that you don’t give a fuck. You are fine that she doesn’t understand, you’re fine that she feels you don’t take her seriously, you’re fine she’s angry.

So you say some bullshit back to her.

"You may be right but I believe they're good for him."

On a scale of 1 to 10, how much does this signal you care what she thinks? Are you looking for consensus?

I've worked my ass off tonight cleaning up after a party I had last night but I'm sure she'll point out something I did wrong. In this case I could agree and amplify "yeah the house looks like we had fun last night!"

There is no amplify here.

Which isn't bad but agree and disclose seems like a good go to that doesn't require any wit (which can end up back firing if my wit sounds retarded)

It’s not required to demonstrate wit, that’s not what you have to demonstrate with A&A. You want to demonstrate frame. Don’t worry about sounding stupid. Lots of good A&A is really stupid.

"I still have some things to clean up but I'm happy with what I've done so far."

Wtf is this, sounds like giraffe speach.

Thoughts on "negativity tests" "something is always wrong" tests?

Yeah, exactly what the sidebar says about shit tests.

Surprise, neither you nor your wife are special snowflakes. Do what worked for everyone else.

andyturbo2000 · 2019-09-09T08:39:51+00:00

She’s probably re-written history on her head to believe that she said they were bad all along so you’ll hit a wall going in that direction. I would probably ignore. Those comments don’t really need to concern you, you’ve made up your mind that your son will benefit, and that’s good enough.

Once when we had a dinner party, we all played a game. In this particular game, one person is the centre and has some tasks to do. My wife shit tested me in front of everyone with a stupid question, something along the lines of why was I doing it the wrong way. I just ignored it, pretended I didn’t hear. She asked again and again to save face. Again and again she asked and I ignored it. It was embarrassing and hard not to reply but in the end she had to stop. Taught everyone in the room two things. I don’t respond to shitty behaviour and when it’s directed at me I have so little respect for that person at that time that I wouldn’t even consider them to be in the room at that point. They’re dead to me.

red-iron-man · 2019-09-09T13:14:39+00:00

She probably did some research on Propel after the fact, and now she's using it as part of her shit test towards you because she's annoyed with you about something unrelated. Just doing a quick Google search and you'll see https://www.isitbadforyou.com/questions/is-propel-bad-for-you

Who bought the product? If it was her, you need to tell her to stop purchasing it because it would be better the family to drink water.

miIkisforbabies · 2019-09-09T13:45:58+00:00

Hey look, ill let the other men set you straight on your wife..

But stop drinking that shit and giving it to your children. I dont know what it is, but it is either sweetened with sugar that is going to give him diabetes or with some fake sweeter that is going to mess up the chemical balances in his body.

Do NOT drink calories.. and be MORE suspicious of any drink that has 0 calories and doesnt taste like black coffee or water.

Get your kids used to drinking water only. Apple/Orange juice is a TREAT and should be treated as if your giving them a chocolate bar... not a healthy fruit

2wo2wo3hree · 2019-09-09T16:37:32+00:00

“The thing that ticked me off was just two weeks before she said those would be good for him since he sweats a lot. So it's clearly some sort of test.”

Nothing should be ticking you off. Being ticked off by it is the quickest way to fail a shit test. Remember your frame. Anything outside your frame is amusing.

MrChad_Thundercock · 2019-09-09T12:17:59+00:00

All shit tests.

“sure she'll point out something I did wrong.”

STOP walking on egg shells. Own your kingdom and who gives a fuck what she thinks.

The negativity is coming from resentment. You took the back seat like a homo and put her in charge - now she hates you. You can’t do anything right. You have no track record of it. Will take time to undo the faggotry of your past.

Go through the program - she’ll get on board. If not, you’ll be able to fuck other women ^tm.

Also:

“I worked my ass off”

No one gives a fuck. That’s a man’s job. Suffer in silence. Take pride in the fact that you own your mother fucking shit and the kingdom you built.

You made her like this- a bitch. A woman will treat you as shitty as you allow. Don’t look to mommy for validation. Mommy criticized you and now you want her to see all the hard work you do. Bla bla bla. Shut the fuck up soldier.

SorcererKing · 2019-09-09T01:39:45+00:00

Autism level: 11

Fucks given: Far, far too many.

You take her way too seriously. Why do you give any fucks what she says or thinks? Why is she in charge of you? Why is she in charge of your son?

The answer: because you let her be, because you want her to be. You should see to that.

RedPillCoach · 2019-09-10T14:26:29+00:00

Agree and amplify is the clowns method of dancing monkey strategy. It works, provided the tests are not constant. It works because redirects her and shows her she is being ridiculous.

In your case you have an uphill climb. These are not typical shit tests. These are challenges to your authority and leadership. The only way to win is to...WIN. You have to break through her shitty, critical, bitchy attitude. Sometimes you have to call her out directly (DON'T AGUE!) and sometimes you have to ignore her and stonewall. Sometimes they will stop- but usually they continue nagging, critical bitching until you divorce her or blow your brains out.

Alternatively, you can generate actual, credible Dread and she will stop- but only because your hot side piece will finally give you the courage to shut down the criticism. Then, in most cases after a period of time huffing and puffing your rebellious First Officer will realize that she is no longer safe on the ship but is flailing in the water while the ship sails away. This almost always exacts a change in behavior.

Title	Agree and Disclose
Author	miIkisforbabies
Upvotes	9
Comments	71
Date	September 8, 2019 11:32 PM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askMRP
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