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[–]inline6throwaway 74 points75 points76 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This might be due to her wanting your attention again. Did you set up a second date? In my experience, this has only worked with girls who already liked me from the start that I wasn't attracted to anyway. Me seeing a woman that I liked but ignoring her did not really cause her to become attracted to me
[–]Mattpat98 30 points31 points32 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes absolutely, I failed to clarify that in the post but I agree with you. If she is not interested in you she is not even going to notice you ignoring her lol.
[–]edjohn88 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Haha yea this used to be the extent of my “game”… needless to say at that time I was not getting any action. Being too cool for school is shooting yourself in the foot without establishing value first.
[–][deleted] 64 points65 points66 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A girl wanting your attention is not the same as her wanting your dick , so make sure she reciprocating sexual attention too
[–]aceeb25 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If a girl likes you already, doing more won’t help anything. In fact it makes it worse. If she’s the one chasing you, she won’t be running away. Keep this dynamic. Contact her first once in the blue only to keep her from becoming discouraged but mostly only to set dates and let her do the rest of the contacting
[–]Zealousideal6669 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It is what it is It's simply called attraction. What girls are attracted to more than anything else? One simple word. Status. So if you're care less than her and dgaf what is sais about you? Why you don't care? Why you don't have to try that hard? Probably because you probably have enough people and girls in your life so you're not desperate over a single one. It's an honest signal of value and status. That's why it's attractive in every case
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Really? Does it work with every girl ?
[–]Zealousideal6669 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Works better with the more cocky, confident ones but overall it just sais good things about you and generally you attract every girl in the same way, attraction always works the same way. Not how you tell how cool, confident and popular you are instead act and behave like a cool, confident guy with other girls options.
[–][deleted] 48 points49 points50 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Women stay interested in men that they cannot have, which is why the bad boy often gets the girl - because he is clearly making no real effort to hide that he is probably sleeping around.
This is also why social proof of being with other women produces a cascading/exponential effect where the more women you have around, the easier time you have with them.
As soon as you clearly show that you have fallen in love or do anything to overly accommodate them, then women lose interest in you.
This is why to be successful with women, you really have to be a blatant pussy-chaser and trying to get women into bed - whether you are looking for a relationship or not. It makes sense really - that relationships with women make absolutely no sense unless there is sex involved. If there is no sex involved - it's because you are in the friend zone.
Women find this conclusion offensive because it gets their sexual imperatives and pokes it in the eye....
.... but think about it. Men and women exist as different genders PRIMARY for the purpose of reproduction. Evolution found that the process more efficient for there to be two genders to facilitate sudden need for biological change in case the environment forced animals to adapt to survive. That's kind of part of the reasons why humans have survived as long as they have, often in completely variable and extreme climates.
Back to the main point though, and that is that men and women only exist as men and women in order to have sex. Otherwise we'd all be non-binary blobs (sounds like a computer science term)
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Yes. The point of touch is to increase sexual tension - and to do that you really have to LIMIT the amount of touch you give initially. You want her to *want* to be touched by you, so you signal that it CAN happen BUT you're not going to. Not yet!
Furthermore, a light touch, or even just a slight invasion of her personal space with sexual overtones is better - although I would save this for when you're not on the street.
There's a number of seduction patterns that play with the idea of being touched - deep inside - and you combine this with a space-invading point just above her solar plexus without actually touching her - which is a good way of turning a woman on with some anticipation. Again, it depends greatly on a number of things lining up and working in your favor before getting to doing that, but it's very effective when done right.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Seduction patterns are conversational frameworks which allow capturing and leading of a woman's imagination and the subtle delivery of subliminal commands. You'd use them on a coffee date - for example - to push her mood and state of mind into a positive and receptive one for sex.
The best part is, you are at no point coercing her. You actually need to listen to the woman and pay attention to her to find out how and what procedures she needs to undergo in order for her to open up sexually. Better yet, she may not have even thought about this herself, and you get to help her.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
There are four ways into a woman's panties:
Some basic theory: if you talk about these topics with women, she will begin to associate the good feelings you talk about with you personally - because you are there talking to her, and she is feeling things around you which you are describing.
Typically I start off by talking about emotions, so things like incredible connections, anticipation, what she feels when she really clicks with a guy, curiosity about someone. In vizualisations I invite her to picture in her mind her perfect guy, date, passions, life goals, etc, and get her to talk about what it is that she visualizes. Body sensations is similar - what is it that she feels deep inside when she finds herself attacted to a guy? a rush of blood? Butterflies? If none of these topics really hook her, or if she is a talker, then get her to talk about the process she goes into when she knows that she's curious about a guy that she feels attraction to. Then let her talk and she will seduce herself.
See how she reacts and what key phrases she uses to describe her experience, and then you listen and repeat them in the conversation.
If that's not working, or even if it is, I will go down the list above to find what she powerfully responds to. And then I will repeat it, maybe talking about it in a different way. I don't talk about relationships - only the 4 things above.
The second thing with dates: you don't know if the woman wants a relationship or just casual sex. Try pushing for sex after the first date by subtly inviting her to chill at your place after talking for her for about a half hour. See responses. Calibrate as necessary.
If girls sense hesitation in you to get them back to your place, they're going to think that you don't know what you're doing or lack confidence. Let the woman come up with reasons to turn you down if that's what it comes to. But I would avoid second dates - that's a losing strategy.
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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
See above: "Again, it depends greatly on a number of things lining up and working in your favor before getting to doing that"
[–]pachacuti092 13 points14 points15 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Treat her like a queen and you shall be left on seen”
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idgaf is a good attitude to have. Detach from the outcome.
[–]LeaderOfWolves 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or maybe she waa telling the truth?
[–]Plane_Reflection6053 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dont overtext mate, its a huge mistake
[–]gillmanblacklagooner 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Balance is everything. Remember Thanos. Balance is key. There’s a thin line between uninterested and confident. But I can say just don’t be needing and overtexting is a good step.
[–]epimpstyle 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Do you like a mom who is trying to control their child telling him always what to do, go there, drop the ball there, don't run that fast, don't touch that rock because is dirty ... ?
Even if she has her own reasons, it is not normal to be like that - she is super protective, and instead to look like a good mom to you, if you are looking at her you will say that she is crazy :-)
That's why many PUAs advise not give so much attention to a person to avoid being like that mom who unconsciously is acting like that but if you are using your common sense, you will feel when you are giving too much attention to your gf because too much attention is an uncomfortable pressure on her - nobody like such a pressure.
It is no magic recipe, there are no "secret laws of attraction". there are no special/hidden ways to talk to girls.. everything is related to a usual and normal common sense.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're chasing too much. Women like to chase the men they like. If she isn't chasing you, she isn't rejecting you. When she reaches out, assume she wants to see you. Set a definite date and get off the phone.
People make the mistake that they need to be texting back and forth to keep the attraction going, "illusion of action". Women need time away from you so they can think about you, when she thinks about you, her emotions get more involved.
The phone should be about setting up dates. Do all the talking in person
[–]zapadz 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Vob4gUmmgkM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6SdiL9XFKkU
[–]98Air 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://youtu.be/ANWlNCPWpms
[–]Blackmagic213 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Usually if you don’t want something, your energy vibration goes from a wanting energy to a giving energy…when you’re in a giving state, more people will be attracted to you because you now have something to share.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's pretty basic stuff. You should keep sexual tension between you all the time, especially in the beginning. If you take something for granted, emotions will quickly become flat, and that is the killer of male-female dynamics.
[–]1dafullyfe 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How can you grow to care about a woman you've only been talking to for one week? You pretty much answered your own question about why she was "tired" all of a sudden.
You made yourself way too available to her and she started losing interest. Stop texting / calling / responding to her everyday. Give her a chance to miss you. Mix it up and stop being so predictable. Go a day with immediately responding to her. Let her wonder about you sometimes.
Women are like cats. They get bored very easily when you give them too much attention. Let her come and go as she pleases. Meanwhile focus on living your life.
[+]Bunnybunrose -9 points-8 points-7 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Ha, this is my experience with men. When I use them for sex, they beg me to give them a chance as something more than just that. (What happened to their concept of not turning a hoe into a housewife? LMFAO) Yet, when I'm truly interested in a dude and go outta my way to flirt with them, and ask them out.. they act confused and ask weird questions such as "why do you like Me " and then end up not talking to me as much, or just straight up going out of their way to sabotage our relationship. Then pout when I leave them 😂
[–]Bunnybunrose 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"We know girls that look for relationships." Lmfao you mean you make assumptions about women that ask men out? Yeah, I see that. And why is it then, that they beg me to date them after I have a one night stand? Y'all would rather turn a hoe into a housewife than give a woman showing interest in you a chance? That sounds pretty pathetic tbh.
[–]gillmanblacklagooner 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
People are downvoting you because they remember this awful situation. But honest is everything here. It happens. Yeah, it sucks but nobody is perfect. I don’t like this attitude or mindset but I appreciate your courage.
Guys, identify when a girl’s into you. If she’s into, she’s into. That’s it. No scam, no games, no laziness. People are really busy and extra tired nowadays but trust your feelings and develop a good communication.
[–]Bunnybunrose 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It's all pretty shitty tbh and thank you, it has taken me a lot of courage to get where I'm at. I only ended up doing the whole one night stand thing for about a year when I was 18, after getting tired of dudes repeatedly fucking me over when I wanted a relationship. I thought that might be the answer, definitely was not.. however, neither is not "looking" for someone. Even when I try to ask a dude out just to hangout/be friends, it's always assumed I'm DTF. Then when they find out I just think they're chill and wanna get to know them, they get weird and seem to assume I have hidden intentions. I honestly thought the dudes here might appreciate a woman's perspective like this, apparently I was wrong once again 😂 Y'all are more confusing than us women fr.
[–]gillmanblacklagooner 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What DTF stands for?
Down to fuck
[–]NiNj4_C0W5L4Pr 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's called cat-string theory. If you don't know what that is you need to scour the innerwebs more.
[–]hbgbees 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
When this happens, might be very tempting, but think about what’s happening. This person basically communicated that they’re not into you, then when you stopped paying attention they appear to change their mind. This is not them changing their mind that they’re into you, this is them reacting to their own insecurities. You don’t want to date somebody who is not in touch enough with their own feelings because that’s going to explode later on. Now, however, if you’re just looking for short term sex, that might work in the short term
[–]anicknameyo 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You have women who somehow like what they cannot have (personally off putting but well), simply want attention or you just simply don't come off as desperate and ready to fuck everyone coming across.
[–]mabden 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You are demonstrating you are not desperate. This peeks their interest as to why.
[–]Plenty_Software4415 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. Girls are ridiculous lol they like the guys who don’t gaf about them.
I never seen an asshole dude have trouble with girls, I only see the simps have trouble. This tells you something.
Maybe it’s something psychological but as a guy this is what you need to know: girls don’t like it when you care about them, as stupid as it sounds. If you don’t get nervous, or anything around them. Or You couldnt care less about their new hairstyle. You’re doing it right.
[–]Repulsive-Fee393 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes women inherently need to know they’ve got someone better than them in some way, supplicating and giving too much attention is seen as low value, ie your time should be worth more.
[–]SharpAd3703 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because being unattainable is attractive.
[–]123throwaway56789fe 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe she was actually tired?
Why not try to plan a second date and if it doesn't happen then you know for sure.
If this is a pattern for you then you might be overwhelming women you like, you can hold back a bit and message every second day rather than constantly. It'll make you seem like you have a more interesting life and she won't be so inclined to take your interest for granted.
[–]a___goon 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are a bunch of fuckwits talking about "what all women are like." Please ignore all of these. It's simply that she's got her own limit for communication. Everyone does. Ever had a friend that just texts too much? It gets really annoying even if you enjoy their company.
If you're trying to be romantic, you need to leave a little space. Make sure you don't text her more than she texts you. Just try to match the energy and don't be afraid to end a conversation. Relationships are give and take. Nobody likes being contacted at every moment of the day.
I'd also advise you don't put too much time into your digital relationship. You over text can become a whole different version from you in person and you don't want her to get a false perception of you. I'd say phone calls are easily a step up from texting. She'll probably feel really special knowing you called her because YOU wanted to talk to her, and not because she wanted you to talk to her. And again, don't abuse it. Keep it sparse. Be deliberate with the time you spend with her.
Lastly, stay honest. Tell her what you like and tell her what you don't like. Don't talk only in ways to please her, but don't be a dick about it. Have your own values and desires.
[–]mangoamanduh 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hm
[–]Wonderful_Try_977 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why read into it so much, when you get busy and stop messaging her, she will miss you. It's perfectly normal, turning that into a manipulative tactic however, isn't.
Just be relaxed, if you get busy in life and don't have time for her, it's fine. Then when you realize you miss her as well, meet up and get together. This is literally how relationships work.
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